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Oh, you have an Eng degree too do you, with 25+ years experience across x carriers and x countries. I literally helped design one of the best 3G wireless networks on the planet overseas. So I have a pretty good idea vs your gut feelings.

I don't give a crap what degree or experience you claim to have, you obviously don't understand the technology, and you continue to make dumb statements like claiming that the network needs to support 4x4 MIMO in order for it to be a benefit on a handset, which is just plain WRONG.

You also don't seem to comprehend how carrier aggregation works, and why it would benefit users on a congested network.
 
Sure a trillion and counting and that has no bearing on the case.

If they win, from what I understand they are trying to delay, not a good sign for Qualcomm.

It’s still highly irregular to target the customer with a lawsuit and not the manufacturer.

You are correct, it has no direct bearing on the case. But, it does inform Qualcomm's strategy.

Fair or not, Qualcomm is going into court and they are going to make this an issue of a large, wealthy company taking advantage of a poor little company that has had to fight off a mean, nasty hostile takeover from another large company. As others have pointed out, Qualcomm is no shrinking violet. They know how to fight dirty.

Will it work? Who knows. I still go back and forth about the ruling in the Oracle vs Google case.

And Qualcomm is going after the customer (Apple) because they had a standard agreement with Apple that if Qualcomm shares some of their trade secrets with them (assuming to allow better integration with the OS), they would need to protect those secrets and allow Qualcomm to audit them with regard to those secrets.
 
I don't give a crap what degree or experience you claim to have, you obviously don't understand the technology, and you continue to make dumb statements like claiming that the network needs to support 4x4 MIMO in order for it to be a benefit on a handset, which is just plain WRONG.

You also don't seem to comprehend how carrier aggregation works, and why it would benefit users on a congested network.

Spare me the NE tough guy act.

Haven't made any claims at all actually and have not discussed CA once, that's all in your little imagination. What has been discussed is Qualcomm.

Actually, CA makes congestion worse, because it utilizes more spectrum, all at once. This is why carriers tend to limit it during peak periods.

The intel chipset supports both 4x4 MIMO and CA, so I'm not ever sure what you are ranting on about.
 
Thanks you.

Just as an aside, how I perceive myself while reading these court documents:

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Spare me the NE tough guy act.

Haven't made any claims at all actually and have not discussed CA once, that's all in your little imagination. What has been discussed is Qualcomm.

Apparently you think I'm stupid and can't go back a couple of pages to find your nonsense and quote it back to you:

Chipset is pointless in America because no cellular networks supports these speeds.

WRONG. You apparently don't understand the concept of carrier aggregation or 4x4 MIMO, because if you understood how they work and what they do, you wouldn't have made such an ignorant and factually incorrect statement.

Actually, CA makes congestion worse, because it utilizes more spectrum, all at once. This is why carriers tend to limit it during peak periods.

WRONG. Carrier aggregation uses the spectrum more efficient, as the more bands a phone can load balance on, the more efficiently it uses the spectrum that's available. If every device were stuck on a single band, the tower would constantly have to switch which phones are on which band, and some would still be slower than others. It's very similar to how cable modems work, where the more channels you have, the better you are able to deal with congestion, and the phones with fewer bands get less bandwidth, and the phones with more bands get more bandwidth.

The intel chipset supports both 4x4 MIMO and CA, so I'm not ever sure what you are ranting on about.

That's the same Gigabit LTE technology that you called "pointless". Now you're claiming it has all this cool technology that will help phones get better speeds. DERP!!!

The difference between Qualcomm and Intel is how they work in low to moderate signal environments, and with the Xs and Xs Max already showing poor RF results, the Intel baseband is just going to make them that much worse.
 
The difference between Qualcomm and Intel is how they work in low to moderate signal environments, and with the Xs and Xs Max already showing poor RF results, the Intel baseband is just going to make them that much worse.
My real world experience says it’s ********. I’m in Budapest right now with a friend and there is this one area in district 18 with worst reception I have seen in a long time. We both have 1 bar and we both use the same carrier, no difference with his note 8, because people can’t hear what we are saying, same goes for me with iPhone X, but on Speedtest I get better results than he does.

Proof that I’m really there:
https://share.icloud.com/photos/041od3TcmYO3lkGA2YxYFtwwg
 
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WRONG. WRONG. DERP!!! WRONG.

Let me sum up your thoughts here, with your own words.

But but but I have the X20...

You don't seem to understand the difference between theory to the real world practicality. This includes a carrier's own implementation of such features. AT&T has never been one at the forefront of wireless tech. Heck, there are areas that still show wcdma, instead of LTE. They're pretty-much behind Tmobile and Verizon in every speedtest and don't think I forgot things like the 1.5Mb/s upload cap they had for ages or the pathetic 6.4kb AMR they used for voice for ages. Therefore, it doesn't matter what "chipset" a phone is using when a carrier is restricting and throttling and QoSing the hell out of their services.

It's not surprising that you shun education and actual experience over your gut feelings.

The difference between Qualcomm and Intel is how they work in low to moderate signal environments, and with the Xs and Xs Max already showing poor RF results, the Intel baseband is just going to make them that much worse.

Again, shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. A lot of this is controlled by the things like the amp chips that a phone is using. As well as antenna design and so forth. Even when they only used QualMonopoly / QualAnti-Trust /Qual-Bend-Customers-Over, Apple has never been one to run their wireless chipsets at full throttle, like android does and its probably the one area that android beats them in a benchmark. This is by choice, not because they are stupid. Their engineers are clearly balancing battery usage with performance.

This is why I have Note handsets that cut off at 35%-45% battery, as in totally shutdown or even bootloop, versus the throttling that Android fanboys claim to be bad. It was awesome when I was out and about and my work Note on its 6th battery just bootlooped in my pocket.

Apparently you think I'm stupid

Well... Sounds like you should just go out and buy a Note which you want. That way you can have the "best wireless chipset" and be done with it. Having worked with QualCrap for years, I'm happy that they got rid of them. Qualcom ain't no intel, they only compete by blocking competition. CDMA died because of them, whereas GSM, which lives on as LTE and now 5G survived because manufacturers didn't monopolize the chipsets.

Also, my good ole Nokia, Ericsson, and Motorola with an extendable external antenna still beat anything on the market for signal.
 
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Let me sum up your thoughts here, with your own words.

But but but I have the X20...

You don't seem to understand the difference between theory to the real world practicality. This includes a carrier's own implementation of such features. AT&T has never been one at the forefront of wireless tech. Heck, there are areas that still show wcdma, instead of LTE. They're pretty-much behind Tmobile and Verizon in every speedtest and don't think I forgot things like the 1.5Mb/s upload cap they had for ages or the pathetic 6.4kb AMR they used for voice for ages. Therefore, it doesn't matter what "chipset" a phone is using when a carrier is restricting and throttling and QoSing the hell out of their services.

It's not surprising that you shun education and actual experience over your gut feelings.



Again, shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. A lot of this is controlled by the things like the amp chips that a phone is using. As well as antenna design and so forth. Even when they only used QualMonopoly / QualAnti-Trust /Qual-Bend-Customers-Over, Apple has never been one to run their wireless chipsets at full throttle, like android does and its probably the one area that android beats them in a benchmark. This is by choice, not because they are stupid. Their engineers are clearly balancing battery usage with performance.

This is why I have Note handsets that cut off at 35%-45% battery, as in totally shutdown or even bootloop, versus the throttling that Android fanboys claim to be bad. It was awesome when I was out and about and my work Note on its 6th battery just bootlooped in my pocket.



Well... Sounds like you should just go out and buy a Note which you want. That way you can have the "best wireless chipset" and be done with it. Having worked with QualCrap for years, I'm happy that they got rid of them. Qualcom ain't no intel, they only compete by blocking competition. CDMA died because of them, whereas GSM, which lives on as LTE and now 5G survived because manufacturers didn't monopolize the chipsets.

Also, my good ole Nokia, Ericsson, and Motorola with an extendable external antenna still beat anything on the market for signal.

Never had issue with my note 5 battery after 3 years. No shutdown or throttling at 30-45 percent charge. So I have to call b.s. on your assertion. Never heard of planned cpu throttling before apple was found out.

Saw the xs max SAR rating is at 1.17 compared to Note 9 at 0.27. The iPhone expels 3x more radiation and yet the cell radio performs below Note 9.
 
Never had issue with my note 5 battery after 3 years. No shutdown or throttling at 30-45 percent charge. So I have to call b.s. on your assertion. Never heard of planned cpu throttling before apple was found out.

Saw the xs max SAR rating is at 1.17 compared to Note 9 at 0.27. The iPhone expels 3x more radiation and yet the cell radio performs below Note 9.
So because you never heard of it it doesn’t exist? I see. That’s chemistry and physics, have you heard anything about those?
 
Never had issue with my note 5 battery after 3 years. No shutdown or throttling at 30-45 percent charge. So I have to call b.s. on your assertion. Never heard of planned cpu throttling before apple was found out.

Saw the xs max SAR rating is at 1.17 compared to Note 9 at 0.27. The iPhone expels 3x more radiation and yet the cell radio performs below Note 9.

Are you seriously going to bring up batteries when an entire model year of a Note was scrapped due to their batteries literally exploding and catching on fire.

With my last note (4), I went through not 1 but 6 batteries, so that is not "b.s.". The way I knew it was time for yet another battery replacement was because the phone would bootloop endlessly at the 50% mark. Now compare this to a iPhone 6 we have which is still on its original battery and at 75% at "Peak Performance capability". I can literally walk into an apple store and get it replaced for $79 if I wanted too.

Samsung on the other hand stopped making batteries for their much touted "removable battery" a year after launch. Which means all of the batteries available are are knockoffs. Apple on the other hand is selling freshly manufactured and official batteries.

Don't get me started on the software updates, which also ended a year later, making the flagship Android handset of 2014 stuck on android 6.0.1 (released 2015). Whereas, an iPhone 5s released an entire year earlier (2013) just got the latest (2018) iOS 12 update.

but I like get 2mb/s faster speeds via Qualcomm. Ha! That Note 4 has the fabled Qualcomm chipset yet they weren't even able to activate the CA that the other clown on here foams at the mouth over. Ironically, is also known for having poor 700MHz band coverage.

Samsung couldn't pay me to buy one of their handsets anymore. Then again, they won't even accept their POS handset as a trade-in.
 
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Let me sum up your thoughts here, with your own words.

Nice selective quote without the context of your ignorant posts.

But but but I have the X20...
You don't seem to understand the difference between theory to the real world practicality. This includes a carrier's own implementation of such features. AT&T has never been one at the forefront of wireless tech. Heck, there are areas that still show wcdma, instead of LTE. They're pretty-much behind Tmobile and Verizon in every speedtest and don't think I forgot things like the 1.5Mb/s upload cap they had for ages or the pathetic 6.4kb AMR they used for voice for ages. Therefore, it doesn't matter what "chipset" a phone is using when a carrier is restricting and throttling and QoSing the hell out of their services.

AT&T is six of one and half a dozen of another with Verizon. Sure, they haven't finished an upgrade in ages, but they still have a MUCH larger and better network than T-Mobile. Their voice quality is excellent, and their speeds aren't winning the e-penis awards that T-Mobile is, but if you account for all the places that T-Mobile gets ZERO because they don't have any service, and AT&T is pulling 5 or 10 or 20mbps, AT&T starts to look really good.

It's not surprising that you shun education and actual experience over your gut feelings.

Again, WRONG. I am a very fact-based person. You obviously aren't, since you don't know basic facts about what Gigabit LTE is or how it works.

Again, shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. A lot of this is controlled by the things like the amp chips that a phone is using. As well as antenna design and so forth. Even when they only used QualMonopoly / QualAnti-Trust /Qual-Bend-Customers-Over, Apple has never been one to run their wireless chipsets at full throttle, like android does and its probably the one area that android beats them in a benchmark. This is by choice, not because they are stupid. Their engineers are clearly balancing battery usage with performance.

So now you're claiming that iPhones have lousy reception because of... battery life?!? That's a new one. The iPhone 8+ was pretty darn good in terms of reception, so I have no clue where you're getting that from. The problem is that Apple has shown that when it is convenient for their design, they will build a phone with good RF performance, like the iPhone 8+, but when it's not, like with the X series, they will build a phone with crappy RF performance. The battery issues that Android phones have aren't because of their RF chain or baseband, they are because of software. A more open ecosystem means less control over what apps are doing, and skins like BloatWiz seem to add a lot of battery drain on some models, like the SGS 7.

This is why I have Note handsets that cut off at 35%-45% battery, as in totally shutdown or even bootloop, versus the throttling that Android fanboys claim to be bad. It was awesome when I was out and about and my work Note on its 6th battery just bootlooped in my pocket.

And what model is that? From how many years ago? The Galaxy S8 and newer have much longer battery longevity than the iPhone due to the way Samsung manages charging and discharging. On the other hand, Apple has stores that make it easier to replace the battery than on a Galaxy or Note series, so there's that.

Well... Sounds like you should just go out and buy a Note which you want. That way you can have the "best wireless chipset" and be done with it. Having worked with QualCrap for years, I'm happy that they got rid of them. Qualcom ain't no intel, they only compete by blocking competition. CDMA died because of them, whereas GSM, which lives on as LTE and now 5G survived because manufacturers didn't monopolize the chipsets.

You are so clueless. Qualcomm is the only company actually innovating and pushing the technology forward. They are the ones that make radios that actually work well, as opposed to the crap that Intel puts out. CDMA had it's time in the limelight, but ultimately GSM/WCDMA/LTE won because of the rest of the world using it. Intel was HUGE on WiMax, which was pretty much a flop, unlike CDMA which was great for over a decade.

Also, my good ole Nokia, Ericsson, and Motorola with an extendable external antenna still beat anything on the market for signal.

On what network and technology? There are no widespread GSM networks running today, CDMA is slated to mostly die at the end of next year, so that leaves WCDMA and VoLTE for voice networks, which those phones probably don't have.

Are you seriously going to bring up batteries when an entire model year of a Note was scrapped due to their batteries literally exploding and catching on fire.

With my last note (4), I went through not 1 but 6 batteries, so that is not "b.s.". The way I knew it was time for yet another battery replacement was because the phone would bootloop endlessly at the 50% mark. Now compare this to a iPhone 6 we have which is still on its original battery and at 75% at "Peak Performance capability". I can literally walk into an apple store and get it replaced for $79 if I wanted too.

There's no way your iPhone 6 still has 75% battery capacity. iPhone batteries degrade much more quickly than that. And a Note 4?!? Samsung totally changed their battery technology after the Note 7 thermal runaway issues, and now they have the best battery technology on the market in the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 series.

Samsung on the other hand stopped making batteries for their much touted "removable battery" a year after launch. Which means all of the batteries available are are knockoffs. Apple on the other hand is selling freshly manufactured and official batteries.

And who cares? They're removable.

Don't get me started on the software updates, which also ended a year later, making the flagship Android handset of 2014 stuck on android 6.0.1 (released 2015). Whereas, an iPhone 5s released an entire year earlier (2013) just got the latest (2018) iOS 12 update.

Software updates definitely are an advantage of Apple. Their battery tech is lousy compared to Samsung, but if you just get a new battery put in every year or two, an iPhone can last forever. On the other hand, Apple is so far behind in LTE technology and LTE banding that keeping a phone that's more than a couple of years old, or even a year old in the case of T-Mobile means that you're missing out on capacity and/or coverage depending on the bands and carrier.

but I like get 2mb/s faster speeds via Qualcomm.
Ha! That Note 4 has the fabled Qualcomm chipset yet they weren't even able to activate the CA that the other clown on here foams at the mouth over. Ironically, is also known for having poor 700MHz band coverage.

I'm not comparing anything to the Note 4. Why don't we compare the 1990 Honda Accord to the 2019 Camry and see which car is better while we're at it? From the S7 and newer, Samsung has dominated in both LTE banding and RF performance, and they just keep getting better every year. My S3 was lousy on RF performance, my Moto G was pretty good, my S7 was great in it's time, but now the X16 and X20 platforms have out-performed what the X12 can do.

Further, you obviously don't get why having good RF performance is important. It's not about an e-penis match on speedtest. It's about a Qualcomm X20 based phone having a bar of service and pulling 2mbps on the extreme cell edge when an Intel-based iPhone doesn't have usable data, or likely a signal at all. It's about the X20 based phone being able to quickly re-connect to LTE while in the subway when the Intel-based iPhone can't. It's about the X20 based phone working deep inside buildings where the Intel-based iPhone doesn't work.

THAT's what it's about, not about an e-penis match on speedtests. Anyone who is going to use stupid, sarcastic lines about raw top speed, does not understand why RF performance matters. Period.

Samsung couldn't pay me to buy one of their handsets anymore. Then again, they won't even accept their POS handset as a trade-in.

You should try one of the S9 or Note 9 series devices, they are quite incredible. The S8 and newer is a significant departure from the S7 battery life and performance mess (although the S7 is otherwise a decent phone).
 
If i was Qualcomm i wouldnt brag about that intel is using their tech with the crappy carrier / lte performance om the Xs series lol
 
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If i was Qualcomm i wouldnt brag about that intel is using their tech with the crappy carrier / lte performance om the Xs series lol
Qualcomm isn't making that claim.
They're claiming that Apple provided information and or access to Qualcomm's proprietary toolset, not their patents.
Trade secret information that Apple signed an NDA agreement with Qualcomm to protect those tools.
Qualcomm will have to prove their claim of course.
 
Nice selective quote without the context of your ignorant posts.

Sounds like wifi speedtests matter to you a lot, so then Samsung is the way for you to go.

Also, amazing how cellular service did just fine for 3 decades without 4x4 mimo and CA.
 
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Sounds like wifi speedtests matter to you a lot, so then Samsung is the way for you to go.

That is literally not what I said. In fact, if you had bothered to READ what I posted, you would see that my point is almost the exact OPPOSITE of that.

Also, amazing how cellular service did just fine for 3 decades without 4x4 mimo and CA.

And for most of that three decades, there was little or no data service at all. It's amazing how we did just fine without indoor plumbing for several hundred thousand years too. Should we get rid of indoor plumbing or electricity or the internet because they are all unnecessary to human survival? Exactly. Your attempt at a point there is completely idiotic.
 
I am an "LTE design expert", as you chose to call it. I worked for one of the companies involved in this lawsuit. And I worked on one of the projects this lawsuit relates to.

Am I at least allowed to pick sides here? :p
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Saying that you want something now amounts to theft?

Wow, this is as close to the concept of thoughtcrime as it comes.

Lawsuits should technically never be about side, but the truth.
And if your information gives you a goos insight to one of the sodes, then you should probably acknowledge that you only see half of the battlefield.
 
Lawsuits should technically never be about side, but the truth.
And if your information gives you a goos insight to one of the sodes, then you should probably acknowledge that you only see half of the battlefield.
Weird thing to say.

If I am accused of theft, then would you really say that I can‘t know if I am guilty or not, because I „only see half of the battlefield“? I think I can know quite well whether I stole something or not without seeing all of the „battlefield“.
 
Tech press headlines are just clickbait.

Although an infringement means they could, nobody expected the ITC to actually issue a ban. iPhones are too popular. Thus the administrative law judge advised that a ban would not be in the public interest and recommended against it. (The last presidential administration overturned a previous iPhone ban.)

However, the decision is a win for Qualcomm, as it validated Apple's infringement of a useful power saving feature.

This was unexpected. Just a few weeks ago, tech sites were reporting that no patents were likely to be found to be infringed. Moreover, all the Qualcomm patents were found to be valid.
 
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Tech press headlines are just clickbait.

Although an infringement means they could, nobody expected the ITC to actually issue a ban. iPhones are too popular. Thus the administrative law judge advised that a ban would not be in the public interest and recommended against it. (The last presidential administration overturned a previous iPhone ban.)

However, the decision is a win for Qualcomm, as it validated Apple's infringement of a useful power saving feature.

This was unexpected. Just a few weeks ago, tech sites were reporting that no patents were likely to be found to be infringed. Moreover, all the Qualcomm patents were found to be valid.

By an ALJ where there is no preclusive effect in any district court.
 
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