Good. I would like to see the whole PC industry transition to ARM.
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Qualcomm Looking to Combat Apple Silicon With New Generation of PC Chips
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At my day job, the IT people decided that the policy should be that everybody gets new laptops every three years. That way, the hardware is always covered by a warranty.
Well, lemme tell you... All the new laptops running Windows have been nothing but problems. Dreadful. I suppose that could partially be due to new Windows versions (dunno), but generally the hardware just sucks all around. Slower, very unreliable, you name it. The 10 year old Lenovo I use for work engineering tasks runs so much better that it's laughable.
If this trend continues, the Intel based suppliers might be in for a bad few years. This might not be due to the Intel parts, but it's hard to separate the various pieces.
(Of course, my experience may be completely unique to my company.)
Meanwhile at Intel... *cricket* don't even have an ARM-based chip to compete... Aside from that Windows need to start investing more to ARM based Windows 11. The developer version is buggy.
Nvidia is trying to buy ARM on the other news.
Not really competition though. Apple is not going to use Qualcomm chips, Apple is not going to sell chips on the open market to other OEMs. So the only competition would be trying to match the performance so that other OEMs could match Apples performance. But as someone else pointed out, without the software optimization, I don't see where this will help drive any real improvements. We already see this playing out in the phone market.
They’ve retained almost all of them. And CPU designers are not motivated only by money.
Except the PA Semi folks were essentially an entire team of folks that had worked together to develop many chips in the past, and included folks from every subspecialty in CPU design. And Apple also bought Intrinsity (which everyone seems to forget), and brought in folks from lots of other places.
Combat Apple's M1 chips in 2023. Sounds about right, they are normally a few years behind Apples chips ?
I'm pretty sure the folks at Apple heard this and chuckled as they likely have their product lifecycle for the next 3-5 years already figured out and where they project performance will be by then - not sure if they even see Qualcomm as a real threat.
Yes, they won't have a choice if ARM starts to take hold in the PC market. Microsoft will change the licensing on Windows 11 for ARM at some point very soon. Then it will be up to Apple to enable a version of Bootcamp for Apple Silicon Macs. Microsoft doesn't care what hardware you are running as long as you are using a legal copy of Windows.
No idea what they are providing new PC wise but even the cheapest i3 chips from the last couple of years run circles around the best 2011 Sandy Bridge based chips (Gen 2 i series chips).
*Competing with Intel and AMD, inspired by Apples success and chip design
People aren’t leaving Macs to get a Qualcomm Windows PC.
People aren’t leaving Macs to get a Qualcomm Windows PC.
PC gamers will hate it. They won't be ready to move from x86 for a long long time because they have these big game libraries and old old titles that they don't want to give up.
PC gamers will continue to buy x86 hardware, x86 isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Qualcomm made CPU's for Surface computers running ARM in the past so I think they have very good relationship with Microsoft. But, the problem for those ARM Surface computers was lack of software support and performance of the CPU's. Now, MSFT has emulation ready, but they need to make leaps on the performance part. Will be interesting if they can pull that off, or they are just talking up the stock price.
It won’t take hold in the PC market unless Microsoft licenses for Arm. Chicken, egg.
Why? When we invented a new architecture in the past we had no assurances that MS would support it. We included them in the process in the hopes that they would, but MS won’t make any promises.
with intel and amd on x86 architecture? because on arm Intel and amd are in the beginning stage....
How big of a market is the PC gamer group? Enough to sustain an entire infrastructure?