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This is sad. People here don't see a benefit of having a new standard available when it will cost the same.

Meanwhile when Apple supports 5g it will be a monumental occasion and people will justify the extra $100 over last years model.

Seriously people something is wrong with supporting a new standard? Or is it only wrong because it's not Apple?
 
This is sad. People here don't see a benefit of having a new standard available when it will cost the same.

Meanwhile when Apple supports 5g it will be a monumental occasion and people will justify the extra $100 over last years model.

Seriously people something is wrong with supporting a new standard? Or is it only wrong because it's not Apple?

For Apple, it's all about the money. They will save a few pennies in 2019 if they stick to 4G modems. Forget latest tech.
 
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Having 5G on smartphone is fancy-schmancy, but what good is it really?

… If 5G network’s won’t be everywhere and prevalent, till 2020, or even later??.

Won't matter for android fans or sales people pushing android. I will only be one more feature iOS doesn't offer
 
See now att told me that they'll have it 19 cities in 2019. Seems it might beneficial for some, depending on location of course.
Well maybe AT&T will roll out the thousands of new antenna towers needed to provide sufficient coverage in those cities for a consumer 5G phone to make sense but I have my doubts.
 
Well maybe AT&T will roll out the thousands of new antenna towers needed to provide sufficient coverage in those cities for a consumer 5G phone to make sense but I have my doubts.
Same here, big doubts. It doesn't affect me, I dont have any cell service at my house anyway.
 
This makes no sense. Just because you can access the data faster doesnt mean more data is being transferred. Data caps refer to the amount of data consumed, not how fast it is received.

Way wrong, ... better camera higher size
Faster network bigger videos and stuff

Learn the history, ... it teaches You , that your opinion is ... false
 
Way wrong, ... better camera higher size
Faster network bigger videos and stuff

Learn the history, ... it teaches You , that your opinion is ... false
Uhhh... No... What I stated is not an opinion.
Will the size of videos get bigger as 4K videos become the norm? Yes.
Will the size of pictures get bigger as the quality of the images get bigger? Yes.

Do either of those have to do with the underlying 5G technology? No.

If the phones are being used in the same way they are now, but using 5G instead of 4G there will be no difference in the amount of data transferred. The data will just come through faster.
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This is sad. People here don't see a benefit of having a new standard available when it will cost the same.

Meanwhile when Apple supports 5g it will be a monumental occasion and people will justify the extra $100 over last years model.

Seriously people something is wrong with supporting a new standard? Or is it only wrong because it's not Apple?
It has nothing to do with supporting the new standard. The problem is this isn't the standard and will not be until at the absolute earliest 2021. The infrastructure is not even close to being rolled out enough to support it. Sure a few big cities might see the benefits, but overall this isn't going to make a difference anytime soon. If someone plans to buy a phone next year and keep it for 3-4 years, then yes there is a benefit to it long term.
 
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This is sad. People here don't see a benefit of having a new standard available when it will cost the same.
Nah. People here (and elsehwhere) probably don't see their current data speeds as an issue. Better cameras, displays, UI's, ease of use? Those front facing features are where the user experience is. "5G" right now is more spec. sheet marketing than a real thing.

Meanwhile when Apple supports 5g it will be a monumental occasion and people will justify the extra $100 over last years model.
Projection, it's what's for dinner.

Seriously people something is wrong with supporting a new standard? Or is it only wrong because it's not Apple?
Buy for what you need today. Paying extra as a consumer or a manufacturer for a technology that is not critical to the planned usage or user experience of the device is wasting resources. And that's not even getting into Qualcom's questionable licensing agreement for FRAND cellular technology and Apple's admittedly questionable behaviours as well. No angels here..
 
This will effectively be a non-issue for a couple of years as any 5G (whether already deployed or planned) are quite minimal at this point, so even if Android phones start coming equipped with 5G wireless capabilities, their usefulness will be limited to select markets.

I recall the first couple of Android phones with 4G WiMAX support, and the battery life on those phones were abysmal. Even when the iPhone got 4G LTE, it was going to be a question if it was going to be able to adequately manage the LTE (along with all of the other radios) without being a battery drain.

Outside of major cities, 3G rollout for some carriers was none-to-quick, so I'm not holding my breath that 5G is going to have rapid expansion, especially when proper 4G coverage can be spotty.

If other phones want to be the ones to say "First!" in adopting 5G, enjoy. They can be the pioneers and also discover the pitfalls involved.
 
All in favor of letting android users be guinea pigs, “smash that like button”.

Guinea pigs? I’ll tell you who the guinea pigs are. They are the Apple customers who have purchased an iPhone XS, which contain Intel modems that still can’t even hold a candle to Qualcomm ones. LTE has been out for years and yet Intel is still fumbling around trying to make a better product. The Qualcomm modems have been proven to perform much better than Intel’s product, yet it’s the customers that have to suffer from Apple’s crusade against Qualcomm.

If you think Qualcomm 5G modems in 2019 will be still in development, just wait for the Intel one in 2020 (if they hit this goal, which they probably won’t). This modem will prove to be hot garbage and Apple customers once again will likely be the guinea pigs. Let’s all hope Apple resolves their differences with Qualcomm by then. Otherwise, we’re likely to get a subpar product by 2021.
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This will effectively be a non-issue for a couple of years as any 5G (whether already deployed or planned) are quite minimal at this point, so even if Android phones start coming equipped with 5G wireless capabilities, their usefulness will be limited to select markets.

I recall the first couple of Android phones with 4G WiMAX support, and the battery life on those phones were abysmal. Even when the iPhone got 4G LTE, it was going to be a question if it was going to be able to adequately manage the LTE (along with all of the other radios) without being a battery drain.

Outside of major cities, 3G rollout for some carriers was none-to-quick, so I'm not holding my breath that 5G is going to have rapid expansion, especially when proper 4G coverage can be spotty.

If other phones want to be the ones to say "First!" in adopting 5G, enjoy. They can be the pioneers and also discover the pitfalls involved.

Many cities in Europe and Asia already have 5G. It’s North America that is significantly lagging behind. See my post above about pitfalls in selecting Intel to produce a 5G modem.
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Not sure why this is such a big deal..slightly faster when for the most part you will be on WiFi anyway

It’s a big deal because 5G will be just as fast, if not faster, than your average WiFi. Given that, consumers will have to ask themselves why they are paying 2 bills for the same service. Of course, data caps will be the biggest reason, but I feel that will resolve itself in due time.
 
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AT&T will still throttle video down to 480p bitrate unless you purchase their "ultimate" unlimited plan- so 5G won't mean didly for most users.
 
Many cities in Europe and Asia already have 5G
Could you name a bunch of those that already have it? Out of those, how many of those are full installations and not test sites that break down with more than 10 users?
 
This is sad. People here don't see a benefit of having a new standard available when it will cost the same.

Meanwhile when Apple supports 5g it will be a monumental occasion and people will justify the extra $100 over last years model.

Seriously people something is wrong with supporting a new standard? Or is it only wrong because it's not Apple?

I've seen android manufacturers peddle gimmicks or half-baked products from day one. 5G is no different and is basically a marketing hype. Apple knows marketing, so they're not going to buy the hype from A--holeMonopolyComm.

At present, faster wireless chips at the expense of battery is all that Android has going for itself. Also, 5G will barely cover a fraction of a network in 2019, so having a 5G chipset will mean squat to most users.

Not to mention, 5G is useless for mobile devices right now anyway, as it's optimized at launch for the mmWave 20+ GHZ spectrum. That's basically line-of-site spectrum that cannot penetrate a glass window.

The only entities peddling 5G is companies like Qualcomm, wireless carriers who want more money, and of course android manufacturers, who use gimmicks to drive sales. LTE-A is more than fine for 99% of users.

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Guinea pigs? I’ll tell you who the guinea pigs are. They are the Apple customers who have purchased an iPhone XS, which contain Intel modems that still can’t even hold a candle to Qualcomm ones. LTE has been out for years and yet Intel is still fumbling around trying to make a better product. The Qualcomm modems have been proven to perform much better than Intel’s product, yet it’s the customers that have to suffer from Apple’s crusade against Qualcomm.

Apple's crusade! A--holeMonopolyComm is the one who picked a fight with their biggest customer. They wanted a a bigger share of the pie for a device that apple develops, manufactures, markets, sells, and supports. Apply this logic to any other industry.

Your opinion about an inferior chipset is interesting considering the whenever I have run a test, the Note 9 and the Xs max get the same speeds side-by-side. You know, in the real world, versus a lab where no one is on a private network, where a 845 might get a few mb/s faster speeds.

If you think Qualcomm 5G modems in 2019 will be still in development, just wait for the Intel one in 2020 (if they hit this goal, which they probably won’t). This modem will prove to be hot garbage and Apple customers once again will likely be the guinea pigs. Let’s all hope Apple resolves their differences with Qualcomm by then. Otherwise, we’re likely to get a subpar product by 2021.

This is android BS. Basically find the one test or specific component but ignore everything else that comes together to make a smooth phone. You're basically saying a v8 is the best because it's faster. Of course, had apple bet the 845, lit it does in most other speed tests, then you guys would say that "speed tests don't matter".

Many cities in Europe and Asia already have 5G. It’s North America that is significantly lagging behind. See my post above about pitfalls in selecting Intel to produce a 5G modem.

Not with those data bucks and **** caps they have in Europe and Asia, whereas all American networks offer unlimited LTE data. I'd probably be arrested in Europe if I used the same 600GB there.

Also, American carriers had LTE up and running and deployed nationwide before lots of Asian and European countries, in general, had even auctioned spectrum for LTE.

It’s a big deal because 5G will be just as fast, if not faster, than your average WiFi. Given that, consumers will have to ask themselves why they are paying 2 bills for the same service. Of course, data caps will be the biggest reason, but I feel that will resolve itself in due time.

More rubbish. I have 1GB/s FTTH service, which is about to be upgraded to 10GB/s via GPON2. No way in the world will even 7G cell networks match that or its sustain throughout. Let alone handle the 1+TB I use through it a month.
 
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I can certainly relate to that. Maybe you can start with "Wireless Wake-Up Call - Jeromy Johnson - TEDxBerkeley" then :)
 
From 2017, which would put Intel behind the ball on this (I don't care who does it first, just trying to assure accuracy)
They sure have been playing catch-up in this space, but they have closed the performance gap and have the better strategy going forward IMO. It all depends on execution now.
 
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We had a ton of responses like that about 4G back in 2010 and 2011: "3G is good enough for a phone, no need for anything faster"

3G supports up to 42Mbit/s and I would be fine with speeds like that.
My median monthly usage is about 1Gb and 3G could in theory use that in 5 minutes.
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This is sad. People here don't see a benefit of having a new standard available when it will cost the same.

Meanwhile when Apple supports 5g it will be a monumental occasion and people will justify the extra $100 over last years model.

Seriously people something is wrong with supporting a new standard? Or is it only wrong because it's not Apple?

It will not cost the same if Apple would have to use a Qualcomm modem since Qualcomm wants a percentage of the phone's price.
 
Many cities in Europe and Asia already have 5G. It’s North America that is significantly lagging behind. See my post above about pitfalls in selecting Intel to produce a 5G modem.
Umm no.
EU trails US and China in 5G deployment.

https://www.politico.eu/article/mob...g-europe-china-us-telecommunications-network/
https://www.iot-now.com/2018/06/27/84975-five-reasons-europe-already-lost-5g-race/
https://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/3029730/europe-trails-the-world-in-5g-deployment-says-report
 
This is sad. People here don't see a benefit of having a new standard available when it will cost the same.

Meanwhile when Apple supports 5g it will be a monumental occasion and people will justify the extra $100 over last years model.

Seriously people something is wrong with supporting a new standard? Or is it only wrong because it's not Apple?
That’s not the point. The point was, bragging about 5G today is inconsequential in real life as actual coverage and carrier support will be at its infancy. Nobody said Qualcomn should not do 5G.
 
Apple needs time to design the bumper you’ll need to insure adequate reception. *snark snark*
 
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