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I’d argue the biggest step was the original iPhone to iPhone 3G
(which also started this whole damn numbering system)
You know what might work. A radical new naming system... iPhone (2019) and for different sizes or feature sets, iPhone mini (4" sized), iPhone, iPhone+ (or Max if they insist), iPhone C (for Color though we all know it was Cheaper, R is Ridiculous).
 
I’m admittedly ignorant on the subject, but would the difference between LTE and 5G be as noticeable as it was to go from 3G to 4G/LTE? LTE on my 7 Plus is blazing for the most part.
 
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Apple is reportedly waiting until at least 2020 to roll out next-generation 5G cellular data technology in its iPhone lineup, but according to Qualcomm president Cristiano Amon, "every" Android handset manufacturer will have a flagship phone with 5G support across U.S. carriers by the end of next year, reports CNET.

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Apple is of course embroiled in a patent dispute with Qualcomm that has seen the iPhone maker shift its modem orders over to Intel. Apple is said to be targeting Intel's upcoming 8160/8161 5G modem for the iPhone, but that part won't enter mass production the second half of 2019, which means it won't start appearing in devices until the first half of 2020.

Regardless of its dispute with Qualcomm, Apple has historically not been on the cutting edge of adopting the latest cellular standards, preferring to wait until they've matured and chips have been better optimized before including the technologies in its devices, so it shouldn't necessarily come as a surprise that Apple will likely lag behind other manufacturers in pushing out 5G support.

Article Link: Qualcomm Says Every Android Manufacturer Will Have 5G Flagship Phone by End of 2019
A big yawn from me. 5G is of zero advantage to me over 4G. And if the cost of early 5G is going to increase device prices because of ripoff royalties, that will be passed on to me, I say Qualcomm should go hang.
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Smart move. Why spend 1k on something that isn't future proof
Future proof? Really?
 
A big yawn from me. 5G is of zero advantage to me over 4G. And if the cost of early 5G is going to increase device prices because of ripoff royalties, that will be passed on to me, I say Qualcomm should go hang.
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Future proof? Really?
Why isn't it?
 
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At this point I would settle for excellent LTE coverage, it still kinda sucks in my city.
 
I'd be happy if they just improve the existing 4G infrastructure. My 4G speeds are usually 1-3 Mbps at home. When I'm near a shopping mall mini tower I get 60 Mbps.
 
The problem is, Intel's 5G modem in 2020 will likely perform similar to Qualcomm's 2019 modem.
But that's only a problem for Intel and Apple marketing. We can let the benchmarks fight it out all they want but users coming from 4G will only see something a lot faster.
 
Funny how people always focus on more speed. T-Mobile invited me for a private presentation and demo of 5G earlier this year (they're one of our research partners) and all they talked about was application in the field of IoT, super low latency, localization accuracy, mesh computing with different applications such as autonomous driving when all the cars are talking to each other and so on. Speed? That's a footnote basically saying "it's faster, but we don't care". Speed is probably the last thing providers care about. Of course there's a huge marketing potential and they'll try to sell it, but in the end that additional speed will be limited by servers and very limited availability. Coverage for 4G is mediocre at best, 5G will be much worse.
 
Really? How so?
A few years ago Three UK had this tariff and I have it ever since. It's still available but it costs more now than it costed then, but who got it then can retain it at the old price. It also includes free roaming (capped to 15GB) in 71 countries :)
 
Ummm, I know someone who's working on the rollout for two major US carriers,tons of projects nationwide... 5G standard is finalized and definitely 'fleshed out'

It's ok for Apple to be late as usual, but lets not pretend that they want that, if it's up to them, they'd be all over it
5G is still in testing phase and won't rolled out for real until 2020. This story is about the handful of test cities that want to be first and the handful of Android phonemakers that also want to be first.

I think Apple actually prefers it this way because they know they won't lose any sales to a few test cities and they can offer a seamless experience once all of the 5G kinks are worked out over the next few years to include the entire country. Anything before that is premature for a company like Apple.
 
If it was reversed and Apple was rolling them out first everyone would be pumping up Apple like crazy..........

And the same people bashing it would be in line buying the first 5g phones if Apple had them........

Anyone that thinks 5G will not be a game changer especially for people cutting the cord at home is crazy....

Not if it doesn't make any sense to rush out a product that isn't ready. Read the comments above, and you will see some excellent explanation as to why waiting until 2020 is a sound choice. It gets so tiring seeing comments like yours, based solely on your opinion and dislike of Apple. Apple has a history of not rushing products out. They like to wait until they think they are ready. Yes this frustrates many of us. Yes this allows competitors to beat them to market with a feature... and gloat about it. But they go their own pace.
Feature competition is far more important to Android users than Apple... because that is the only way they can differentiate. When all the other phone makers can use the exact same operating system as you... how do you stand out? Either price or features. Apple does not have that problem.
 
We had a ton of responses like that about 4G back in 2010 and 2011: "3G is good enough for a phone, no need for anything faster"
It still is fast enough, for the phones & apps that were available in 2010/2011. I'm sure there will be services & apps that can take advantage of 5G speeds, eventually. And by the time those are out, iPhones will support 5G.
 
All in favor of letting android users be guinea pigs, “smash that like button”.
Hey, that's only once. Apple has been using iPhone users as guinea pig with every release and every iOS patch relase.
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4G is already useless with data caps.
What does it mean? It's like saying raising the speed limit of highway is useless because the distance is same.
 
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