Qualcomm's M1 Rival to Be Available in PCs by Late 2023

[MacRumors]

Qualcomm's answer to Apple silicon will be available in devices by late 2023, the company's CEO said earlier this week (via Tom's Hardware).

In November last year, Qualcomm announced plans to build next-generation Arm-based System on Chips (SoCs), designed to rival Apple's M-series chips, for the PC market. The chips are "designed to set the performance benchmark for Windows PCs" and are being developed by the Nuvia team. Qualcomm said that it will directly compete with Apple's M-series chips, including the M1, M1 Pro, and M1 Max, and hopes to lead the industry for "sustained performance and battery life."

During the company's latest earnings call earlier this week, Qualcomm President and CEO Christian Amon said that the Nuvia team was progressing toward its goal of developing a significant leap forward for Arm processors. Amon added that the first Nuvia-designed processor will be "going after the performance tier" and that Nuvia-powered Windows laptops are on track to be available to customers by late 2023.

The timing seems to indicate a slight delay compared to the original 2023 timeframe set out by Qualcomm last year. The company previously said that sample Nuvia chips would be available to device manufacturers by August 2022, but now that expectation has been broadened to the second half of 2022, with particular emphasis on the debut of the first consumer Nuvia devices in "late" 2023.

Qualcomm acquired Nuvia, a chip startup company founded by ex-Apple chip designers, for $1.4 billion in January 2021. The former Apple engineers wanted to create Arm-based SoCs specifically for servers and target the always-connected PC (ACPC) market with a chip that could compete with the M1, but now the team's aims seem to have been significantly broadened.

By late 2023, Apple is expected to be well into its M2 series of chips. The company may have even introduced the first M3 chips by the time the first Nuvia chips come to market.

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[adamw]

Competition is a good thing... It should spur Apple to innovate more, increase performance and efficiency of the Apple Silicon chips, and should help keep prices lower. Having more support for ARM processors in various chips should help developers look to increase support for native ARM processors in their software more.

 

[macsplusmacs]

Translation.

2024'ish

 

[Kazgarth]

It would be interesting to see what Nuvia team can achieve without Apple.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

in 2023-2024, Apple will be far ahead. Qualcomm CEO needs to know Apple is already working on M2 and M3 Apple Silicon Chip, 😝

 

[GMShadow]

Translation.

2024'ish

And 2026 before they're competitive with maybe M2, and it still won't be power consumption competitive.

 

[macsplusmacs]

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[WilburMercer]

This is a good thing (competition).

 

[Luap]

By which time Apple will have an M5XproGTiMax Rev 2 out.

 

[blazerunner]

First time I'm seeing MacRumors members NOT trash the competition in the comments on the first page. Finally some maturity.

 

[macsplusmacs]

It would be interesting to see what Nuvia team can achieve without Apple.

This will be really interesting. Perhaps the Nuvia team pulls it off on the dates they say and produce a great chip.

BUT.

What too many forget when they read stories about x person or x team leaving apple is that those people HAD LOTS OF HELP.

OTHER PEOPLE AT APPLE also helped them to an extent we may not know but to say a person or team will produce the same greatness without the other people they worked with at apple and without the apple-like $$ resources.

Well,

Show me.

Until then. Real artists ship.

Apple did and does every day.

 

[bsbeamer]

Finally saying goodbye to Snapdragon would mark the end of an era. Not convinced it will happen.

 

[KPOM]

This should mean that Microsoft will continue to improve Windows on ARM.

 

[orbital~debris]

Crikey, that’s a bit of a lag!

 

[Jimmdean]

Intel rival, not Apple. Other chip designs have existed forever and Apple still maintains its market share. But Intel and AMD should be at least a little worried - Qualcomm is certainly not doing this for an OS other than Windows.

Their statement that they are shooting to compete against Apple is very telling though - they see them as #1. That has to hurt for Intel.

 

[BootsWalking]

First time I'm seeing MacRumors members NOT trash the competition in the comments on the first page. Finally some maturity.

Agreed, although it's kind of hard to trash the competition when the competition is the Apple team that helped develop the M1

https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/02/qualcomm-can-beat-apple-m1/

 

[aquaman1992]

With M2 around the corner, I can't wait to see improvements year over year! But honestly, without system OS and hardware integration, I doubt these SoCs will be anything compared to the improvements we saw when apple switched.

 

[falkon-engine]

My only issue is these chips will still be running windows. I don’t particularly care for windows other than to game.

All that being said, by late 2023, intel meteor lake should be in market so I’m curious to see how Nuvia, Apple Silicon compare to Meteor Lake and possibly Zen 5.

 

[Xiao_Xi]

Why is the Nuvia SOC supposed to compete with the M1 and not the M2? Has Qualcomm said that their Nuvia SOC will compete with the M1?

 

[Rudy69]

Just in time for M3!!

 

[falkon-engine]

Agreed, although it's kind of hard to trash the competition when the competition is the Apple team that helped develop the M1

https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/02/qualcomm-can-beat-apple-m1/

Perhaps they like ARM and dislike x86? I wonder if hackintosh will evolve to run macOS on Nuvia

 

[danbalsh]

"Began, the ARM wars have" like others have said, competition is good!

 

[DaveMcM76]

Why is the Nuvia SOC supposed to compete with the M1 and not the M2? Has Qualcomm said that their Nuvia SOC will compete with the M1?

I guess because officially M2 doesn't exist yet, even though we all know it is coming. M1 is the most recent released product that they can reference.

 

[EugW]

In the interest of competition, I hope the Windows speed on these will be better, both through improved chip designs and improved Windows optimization on ARM.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

in 2023-2024, Apple will be far ahead. Qualcomm CEO needs to know Apple is already working on M2 and M3 Apple Silicon Chip, ?

I would read such PR as figurative instead of literal. In other words, I assume they mean M1-STYLE chips or SOC ARM. Qualcomm has smart enough people to know that Apple will be progressing in their own development over the next year(s). A better message to perhaps spin would be their intent to directly answer Apple M3 or M4 chips expected to be available at the time.