Qualcomm's New 'Quick Charge 5' Will Charge Android Smartphones to 50% in Five Minutes

[Frantisekj]

I miss the days when Apple led the market with innovation.

I wont say they could not develop something here or there but Apple focus on what he do the best. And at this time those are big long run project like own silicon a AR glasses that will shake up things again.

And do not think Apple has to invent everything. Neither can.

 

[compwiz1202]

I think it's hypocritically hysterical that there's loads of mockery citing exploding android phones that skip right past this part of the article.

Also skipping that this standard has already existed and is not responsible for exploding phones...

And if we *really* want to poke fun: keep in mind that it was apple recently who "tried" to develop this little known thing called AirPower, repeatedly failed, and then scrapped it after it already went public that it was an upcoming product.

Meanwhile, Apple was the company that for many, many years kept delivering 5w power chargers, only *very recently* started including stronger chargers in the higher tier models, only to be rumored to be axing that entirely.

Despite this, one can go on Amazon and purchase mutli-port PD chargers with USB-C and USB-A ports for charging multiple devices quickly, and inexpensively, while being well built. The new one is they're all developing reliable 100W PD chargers that are significantly cheaper than Apple's bricks.

tl;dr y'all are laughing in the wrong direction.

And Apple even worse on the wireless side. They need to get into the 21st century with speed, range and availability if they think I will even buy a wireless only iPhone.
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Yes, but how fast will it charge an iPhone.. that's all I care about on a Mac site.

Yea you could make a kW charger and it won't mean crap if the best iPhone can only accept 22W
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I use an Apple iPhone Smart Battery Case. I never have to charge the phone during the day (or maybe a couple of days), so I don't have to look for an outlet or put the phone down on a wireless charger. Fast (or slow) charging not needed.

Plugin the phone at night, and both the case and the iPhone charges with one (Lightning) cable.

A widget shows the battery capacity of both the iPhone and the case.

I can easily remove the phone from the case, so it's kinda like a swappable battery.

It adds some bulk and weight to an iPhone, but that tradeoff is worth the advantages it brings to never have to worry about charging, while also protecting the phone.

IMO, it's one of the most underrated products Apple makes.

And the iPhone will draw power from the case as long as there is power, so no cycles on the iPhone battery until the case dies.
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It says in the article it wont have any more impact on battery degradation then the current OEM fast chargers from the box and I'm pretty sure no OEM gives you a 75 watt charger out of box.

Plus no XR draws close to 75W, so it won't get extra hot. I'm sure they meant 75W phones would lose battery health at that rate.

 

[btrach144]

Laws of physics are laws of physics and that's gonna be a damn hot phone.

Literally 10° cooler than previous technology. Is reading compression that hard? (Assuming they’re telling the truth)

the iPhone gets warm while fast charging but so what? it doesn’t interfere with my usage of the device. life continues on and I have a full battery quicker. Temperature is meaningless in that scenario. Imagine 10° cooler.
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It said the phone will be 10 C cooler, or the charger? I'm pretty sure it's the charger, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Phone. Chargers rarely dissipate a level of heat. See 100w MacBook charger. A majority of the heat is created by charging the MacBook.

 

[derekamoss]

It actually degrades the battery quite a bit faster. Not a problem if you change your phone annually, but at $1k/pop few do. If you’re in a situation where 1. you forget to charge overnight, and 2. the extra several minutes really matters, you’re the person for whom a battery pack is perfect. They’re cheap, pocketable (even while charging), and you won’t be frying your phone’s battery. Also, you should read about management of rechargeable batter health; keeping it at or near 100% is not good practice.

Read the actual article. There is no extra battery degredation due to how it's implemented. I'd write it here but wouldn't want to spoil it for you

 

[Kabeyun]

Read the actual article. There is no extra battery degredation due to how it's implemented. I'd write it here but wouldn't want to spoil it for you

I did read both the article and the referenced post. Show me where either claims that there is no battery degradation over time. I’ll spoil it for you: it doesn’t. You should be sure of your facts before you get publicly snotty.

 

[tongxinshe]

Didn’t Oppo just released a 125W quick charging standard one or two weeks ago? Why Qualcomm is still claiming its own "slightly slower" charging standard the FIRST?

 

[derekamoss]

I did read both the article and the referenced post. Show me where either claims that there is no battery degradation over time. I’ll spoil it for you: it doesn’t. You should be sure of your facts before you get publicly snotty.

Read my comment again then. I never said no battery degredation, I said there is no EXTRA battery degredation meaning no more then what is currently happening with quick chargers. I'll spoil it for YOU, I'm right and I did actually check my facts and I wasn't being snotty, I say the same things to my kids when they didn't read it all and actually research facts before assuming. Ironically unlike you, they don't say or act like children by saying things like snotty and maturely learn from mistakes.

 

[jettredmont]

It literally says in the article it’s reducing the temperature by 10° C compared to other technologies.

To be accurate, it says ~"up to 10C cooler", and also ~"up to 4x as fast", as two separate statements. By advertising standards, you can add "all else being equal" to any statement.

Essentially, QC 5.0 is 10C cooler than QC 4.0 when charging a specific battery configuration at identical (QC4) speeds. They are claiming nothing more.

Does that mean that QC5 running at 100W will be cooler than the currently-implemented QC4 phones? Absolutely not. In fact, you can assume that if that were the case they would have made that claim directly.

It does, however, indicate that even without the speed increase, QC5 is a significant advance in thermal management, and it would be interesting to see how that compares to Apple's technology.

 

[aleni]

Macrumors common dudes now: bahh! Yer phone gonna blow!!

when apple release a separate $129 100W charger for iPhones:

Horreayyyyyy!!!! Can’t innovate anymore me arse!!!

 

[RD_SF]

Thanks guys for failing to read the article and contribute dribble as a result.

The article says "up to 10 degrees Celsius cooler compared to Quick Charge 4 and 4+".
The article does not say QC 4 and 4+ don't get super hot. 10 degrees Celsius cooler than what? 120C?

 

[amartinez1660]

As long as battery longevity is not compromised, this is a major new feature!

Very curious about this too. And how long would that battery last on that charge on a standard smartphone.

If Apple is doing things like charging overnight up to 80% then charging the rest before waking up for battery health, I do wonder if force feeding juice to a battery in such a short period of time has any consequences. It is my understanding that Li batteries don’t like to be “moved”, meaning changing charges, hence the cycles counting.

At the same time, in electrons sizes and timings where everything is nanoseconds, minutes or hours could very well both be counted as “infinite time” and not really a concern.

 

[aleni]

Very curious about this too. And how long would that battery last on that charge on a standard smartphone.

If Apple is doing things like charging overnight up to 80% then charging the rest before waking up for battery health, I do wonder if force feeding juice to a battery in such a short period of time has any consequences. It is my understanding that Li batteries don’t like to be “moved”, meaning changing charges, hence the cycles counting.

At the same time, in electrons sizes and timings where everything is nanoseconds, minutes or hours could very well both be counted as “infinite time” and not really a concern.

it’s not like it’s using 100W to charge a single cell battery. The phone has 2 batteries inside in parallel mode, and the charger charges them each with 50W.

If that means I have to spend $50-60 every 2 years it’s still worth it to me. I don’t ever need to plug my phone at night anymore. Just plug it in when I take a shower in the morning and it’s done by the time I finish the morning routine.

 

[dz5b609]

Literally 10° cooler than previous technology. Is reading compression that hard? (Assuming they’re telling the truth)

the iPhone gets warm while fast charging but so what? it doesn’t interfere with my usage of the device. life continues on and I have a full battery quicker. Temperature is meaningless in that scenario. Imagine 10° cooler.
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Phone. Chargers rarely dissipate a level of heat. See 100w MacBook charger. A majority of the heat is created by charging the MacBook.

10 degrees cooler compared to what, you're the one who needs more reading comprehension, you need to read what they say and what it doesn't say... I can claim that something is 10 degrees cooler compared to an unknown entity, that doesn't tell you anything. Pumping 100 watts in a phone is gonna make it a lot hotter than pumping less watts through a phone no matter what kind of technology they're using, that's why I saw laws of physics is laws of physics.