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I miss Steve Jobs' era, one iPhone and one iPad, simple and clean offer for customers.

Is the decision making process for other products in your life where there are countless options virtually impossible?

2 iPhones. (Potentially) 3 iPads. All easily distinguishable from the other. What is so hard about this? :confused:
 
I was bored the other day and drew the mini, iPad air and proposed 12.9" screens out in CAD to compare them. The 12.9" really seems unmanageable for a tablet device in either 4:3 or 16:10 aspect ratios.

Just my opinion, but I'm increasingly convinced that this proposed iPad may not be what we assume.

A random thought is that this 12.9 screen might herald the return of the "iBook" as an iOS based laptop form factor or possibly some other hinged / desk friendly system that we've yet to envisage. Of course "iBook" doesn't fit with the assumed iPad Pro naming convention, but I think we should at least be expecting something more creative and defining than a scaled up iPad.

Exactly, someone needs to make a print off so people can understand how ridiculous this is. Also it would weigh 1.6-2lb. iPad mini to iPad air is a much much smaller jump (1.8) compared to iPad air to a 12.9" iPad (3.2). It would weigh A LOT if it were being made, but it's not.
 
I would love to see iPads be capable of Target Display Mode. A larger iPad would make that even more desirable. An iPad as a fully supported second monitor could be really useful.
 
I hope that the display is closer to 11.9". 12.9" seems pretty hefty for a tablet.

I'd love to be able to do design and photo editing work on one of these someday. iOS needs better file management, peripheral support (think app store for USB device drivers) and improved multitasking capabilities before it could be used by professionals. I think things are slowly moving that way, but it will be a while before many professionals can take it seriously. There also need to be some better professional apps for iOS. I bet Apple releases at least Aperture and Logic for iPad Pro. Final Cut X is really pushing it, and it would have to be a pretty powerful device with a much more advanced iOS. I can't see anyone using that right now. I know Adobe is working on Lightroom for iPad. RAW editing apps would be a great start and good use.

Does anyone think it's possible that Apple could create and edge-to-edge display? Maybe with just a tiny bezel to reduce overall size? What I'm thinking is that an iPad Pro would be targeted at creatives and would have a pressure sensitive screen. Touch capacitance combined with pressure sensitivity could, in theory, combine to create better edge touch rejection. It could much more clearly recognize someone holding the device vs. trying to tap on something. I'm just not sure if they can ever get rid of the top and bottom with the FaceTime camera and home button. But a minimal bezel iPad Pro 11.9" wouldn't be significantly bigger than an iPad Air.

First of all they can't based on current tech. Secondly it would look awful with no bezel because devices you hold just look terrible without a bezel of some amount. Finally they will never ever ever get rid of the home button at least. It will always be directly on the front of the device and a round button because it is designed to be similar to a finger tip and it now has touch ID which will not be going away.
 
And think about just passing around the screen portion.... A 13" iPad wouldn't be much larger... But hopefully higher resolution. I'm hoping for one. The 7" OS nice but small for regular reading. 13" will be nice as an art/music pad.

For sure - I've looked at my mba exactly that way. It seems like a perfect size and form. Maybe a little too wide, given in portrait mode it seems the height to width ration isn't exactly right (the issue I have with the Surface and it's primary landscape-only form).

I'll buy an iPad Pro as soon as they release it.
 
I just don't see it, while I think a larger iPad is very interesting as a device and something I'd like to see, the market that would buy one is not (imo) in the multiple 10s of millions, which is what Apple seems to require in order to justify launching a new product. While there are some who would obviously buy a larger iPad, they aren't sufficiently numerous to warrant a bigger iPad.

To those who think there are lots of industries that would like a larger iPad for their business, that's true, but they don't tend to be industries (especially hospitality) that spend lots of money on IT, so I just don't see it happening, which is sad because I'd love to see this beast hit the market.
 
March in late 2014? Because ipad pro is out 6 months after ipad air right? And it's going to have 16gb of RAM too.
 
No, the correct possessive is Jobs'. The fact that it's a possessive proper noun doesn't matter.

Either is correct.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/apostrophe-catastrophe-part-two

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No, the correct possessive is Jobs'. The fact that it's a possessive proper noun doesn't matter.


Either is correct.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/apostrophe-catastrophe-part-two
 
Of course Apple has experimented with larger iPads and touch screen iMacs in the labs (the early 2000s iPad prototypes we've seen during the Samsung trial were 12" I think). So of course they're aware of the possibilities that would be open by a large touch screen device.

I suspect that, along with iOS 8, a large iPad and a large iPhone (4.7" and/or 5.7" phablet) will be unveiled at WWDC, but will not ship until September because it will require some work on apps by some developers.

Auto-layout APIs were introduced in iOS 6, improved and heavily pushed by Apple in iOS 7 along with the new text engine. Like it was said many times before, the textureless iOS 7 redesign will make it much easier to transition apps to flexible layouts. (Why do you think Metro has this flat design? It was not a fashion statement, they had to support a variety of screen sizes and densities).

Not every dev has been using auto-layout APIs, and I think that WWDC '14, along with the unveiling of iOS 8 and new screen sizes will push the remaining developers to make their app layouts flexible.
 
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Exactly, someone needs to make a print off so people can understand how ridiculous this is. Also it would weigh 1.6-2lb. iPad mini to iPad air is a much much smaller jump (1.8) compared to iPad air to a 12.9" iPad (3.2). It would weigh A LOT if it were being made, but it's not.

it will be more aimed at people who need to operate virtual devices (like audio engineers operating virtual mixing desks). The weight and portability are really not the issue.
 
That'd be pretty suicidal for them if it's "just" an iOS device. The Surface Pro 2 is orders of magnitude more capable and would have a far better price/value ratio - a lot of people would prefer it to an iPad line starting at $700.

For an OS X device, however, I'd be happy to shell out even $1500. Particularly if they also release a large-screen (17"+) 4K one.

I am a fan of large screen laptops and i agree 100%. A 17" retina (or better) display would be orgasmic.
 
it will be more aimed at people who need to operate virtual devices (like audio engineers operating virtual mixing desks). The weight and portability are really not the issue.

iOS devices are meant to sell tens of millions not a million.
 
Too bad it will run iOS. Your freaking arms will fall off making those gargantuan swipes. :eek:

What a waste of hardware.
 
Unless these can do full OSX and come with thunderbolt and usb standard, there is zero reason to build an iPad that big.
 
Yeah, the only way I see a 13" ipad becoming a hit is if they make it able to run iOS and OSX. I just don't see the need for a larger ipad. Who wants to carry that around? Unless it does something the other two cannot do.
 
Exactly, someone needs to make a print off so people can understand how ridiculous this is. Also it would weigh 1.6-2lb. iPad mini to iPad air is a much much smaller jump (1.8) compared to iPad air to a 12.9" iPad (3.2). It would weigh A LOT if it were being made, but it's not.

It would have been a major technical achievement if Apple were able to deliver a 12.9 inches tablet at 1.6lb. The resolution would have to be much higher to be retina. That means major CPU/GPU power to move the pixels on the screen. That means more backlites and more battery. We don't have the technology to make a light weight 12+ inches mobile device yet. And then we will have a 3rd resolution for Ipad and all the app developers will have some fun to update their apps. 2Q14 is an aggressive schedule if Apple want any app support at launch.

At 12.9 inches, it is going to be a portable device but not a handheld one. The torque that a 2lb tablet apply to the hand when we hold the tablet on the edge is going to be tremendous. We can put a 12.9 tablet on our lap, on a table, or even hang it up as a point of sales terminal, but definitely not competing with Ipad air sales. I would love to have one for home use if Apple develop some kind of stand that it can sit on my lap and give me comfortable viewing angle..
 
Kinda neat, if it's true, but I think iOS7 needs some special iPad features first. Real multitasking, like having two apps open on the same screen at the same time, would be great. Allowing file uploads to Dropbox and email attachments would also help...

I've always loved OS X for the multitasking, so it's funny that, for me at least, iOS falls kinda short.
 
hands free

If it is true, then I can see the iPad being a draft pad or a more immerse entertainment device, but only...

Have any of you watch a 2 hour movie holding the iPad?
Have any of you type a long email holding the iPad?
Have any of you browse the web/shop for any length of time holding the iPad?

I and I would guess the overwhelming majority of people have done these things, BUT only with a smart cover or an accessory to hold the iPad. This is how the iPad is use in real life. Holding it regardless of iPad model or for long length of time is tiresome and painful. Ironically, the iPad is not meant to be held.

I love my iPad and use it as my primary device at home. I would have stopped using it had it not been for the smart cover and accessories to hold it. This is so obvious to me, and I'm surprise it hasn't been talk about more.

Just my two cents.
 
How about actually making iOS better - no file system, no multi window multitasking, 1GB of RAM, come on apple, you suck!

Please stop with the thinness nonsense it's good enough now, just improve your iOS!

I use my iPad, want to print out a receipt from a web order (for records keeping), can't even do that print to pdf without a jailbreak tweak!

These little bitty things left out for nearly 7 years is what bothers me the most about iOS - it's not an advanced OS either - it's almost 2014 and you are stuck in 2009.
 
There is a load of things that the iPad Pro could be given. It will be really interesting
 
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