4.6"?!?! for a flagship apple phone that is only updated once a year.. no wayyyy
4 seems more realistic, lets just stick with that
4 seems more realistic, lets just stick with that
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Questionable Claims of a 4.6" Screen on Next iPhone, But 4" Screen Still Seems Very Possible
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i hope that these rumours stick whether 4inch or 4.6 inch after using a iPhone for 4 years and just getting the iPad the screen estate is growing thin on my taste.
However i have bought a lot of apps on my iPhone and i'am keen on apple products for their simplicity and design so I guess if the new iPhone doesn't offer a bigger screen i will wait this out.
However i have bought a lot of apps on my iPhone and i'am keen on apple products for their simplicity and design so I guess if the new iPhone doesn't offer a bigger screen i will wait this out.
Come on I am a huge Apple fan and that is not going to happen.
The only way to get iOS is get Apple and I fully expect Apple to start some market share but they will still hold on to the top in phone sells because they are the solo source for iOS. Compared to Android that large chunk of the pie is split up among a lot of different phones and as such each only gets a smaller chunk of the over all market share.
The other factor is Apple will sell a lot just because of the Apple label along. Apple could put dog crap in a box and t would sell like hot cakes as long as it had an Apple label. it is safe to say there are a few members here on these boards would would buy it claiming how great it is.
4 inches is perfect.
Though that's not what she said.
The problem comes down to screen resolution. If they made a 4" screen with the same resolution, it couldn't really be considered Retina anymore. They would have to increase screen resolution which could be another reason why they didn't want to do this so soon after the iPhone 4.
Conversely, if they made the screen size 3.8 inches, they could keep the same screen resolution and it would still be Retina. But it doesn't seem worth it to increase it by that small amount.
I would bet on a 4" iPhone 5, with a new screen resolution.
Though that's not what she said.
The problem comes down to screen resolution. If they made a 4" screen with the same resolution, it couldn't really be considered Retina anymore. They would have to increase screen resolution which could be another reason why they didn't want to do this so soon after the iPhone 4.
Conversely, if they made the screen size 3.8 inches, they could keep the same screen resolution and it would still be Retina. But it doesn't seem worth it to increase it by that small amount.
I would bet on a 4" iPhone 5, with a new screen resolution.
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Let's put it this way. Samsung sold over 20 million Galaxy S2 since April 2011 as they reported last month. Very impressive.
However Apple sold over 30 million iPhone 4S in three months.
It's really hard to grasp how big iPhone has gotten.
But which 4 inches? Even in the Android world, two 4 inch phones can be different in their sizes due to the different aspect ratio. This is something that's often ignored in discussion.
In an ideal world there should be a small, medium, large: 3.5", 4.0", 4.5" respectively. I had an iPod touch then went to a 4.3" with my HTC EVO 4G and totally saw the advantage of a larger screen. I was kind of forced to the 4.52" of my Epic 4G Touch because I was actually just expecting the 4.3" like the international Galaxy S II. That being said it's not a beast since it's basically as light and thin as the 4S. I'm pretty much set on it's dimensions and weight as being my maximum. Oh and 16:9 ratio please. Just like all the wide screen TVs and Apple displays.
Next phone screen could be 4" at 1140x640 at the same 326ppi. They would accomplish this by reducing the top and bottom bezel while keeping the same form factor. Non-updated apps would be 960x640 letterboxed and looks EXACTLY the same as on current iPhones. Developers can choose not to update if 16:9 ratio is not necessary.
I would welcome this so damn much. For me, the iPhone is too small and the iPad too big. I still have and use both, but this would be a perfect balance as far as I am concerned. .
I think he meant the dpi the same as the new iPad. I also would be interested in what the resolution(dpi) would be with a 4" screen. I would try to figure it out my self but I don't have any scratch paper laying around.
Resolution is actually the primary concern, not device footprint or even aspect ratio. Apple's approach to resolution is that it is a means to gain sharpness, not to cram more on the screen. For anyone reading who doesn't understand why, let me explain:
You could make a bigger screen in two ways - cram more pixels onto it, or make each pixel bigger.
All iPhones have the same screen size at 160 PPI (points per inch), which means that as a dev I can count on say that each 160 points of length in code will translate to exactly an inch on any iPhone, even a retina one. (The retina devices simply have more pixels per point). This also means that if I have an artwork that's 160 pixels wide, all I have to do to get it to render crisply on a retina device is to make it 320 pixels wide without any change in code. (Same goes for iPads and retina iPads)
As I see it, cramming more pixels onto it changes the apparent size of the screen (in points), which means if I coded a menu that's 320 points wide, it would now still be 2 inches wide, but there'd be be more than 2 inches of horizontal width on the screen. I'd have to change my app code, or at least the UI xib to make use of all those new pixels - many devs would be pretty upset if the OS stretched or resized their interfaces by default.
Making pixels bigger to fit a 4" screen would cause my 320 point wide object to be more than 2 inches wide now. Also, it'd mean backtracking on the ridiculously high retina display pixels per inch number that we all know and love. In that world, I could always resize my image to suit the new PPI, but again that would mean remastering all my assets twice - once for retina (pixel doubling) and once more for this strange arbitrary PPI
Regarding vector based artwork, iOS doesn't render vector data, only raster; and scaling down high resolution artwork without losing detail isn't just a simple affair of dropping pixels or taking averages - which is why Apple requires two versions of every asset, one for non retina and a -2x one for retina displays. The UI artist should have complete control over how the artwork is scaled, not the OS.
If Apple does do it, here's how I think they'll do it - the new device have more pixels than an iPhone 4S, with the same PPI. It would then render existing apps pixel perfect, at 3.5" size in the center of the screen with a black area of nothingness around it (it'd be exactly as it looks on current devices), and apps whose devs decide to put the time and effort into biggifying can say so in their app bundles and make use of the new screen size.
I suppose if they do go that path, it'd be pretty awesome for everyone. Existing apps would run without loss of crispness or unintended change in size, while movies and new apps get the new big display, and users get to keep their Retina resolution displays.
One thing's clear, however - the Android way of handling screen sizes (just stretch and let the devs worry about it later) compromises on crispness and fidelity, cornerstones of good UI design - the whole Retina display thing shows that Apple knows and believes in this.
The main reason I want the iPhone to be bigger is so I can actually use it as a phone. The mic is so far away from my mouth! It's too small to use as a phone.
I don't get why people want the screen to be bigger. It's actually a perfect size as it is, maybe they can just make it wider and 16:9 by removing some of the bezel near the speaker and home button.
Also, note that the bigger screen would cost more to keep that retina P/A ratio.
I don't get why people want the screen to be bigger. It's actually a perfect size as it is, maybe they can just make it wider and 16:9 by removing some of the bezel near the speaker and home button.
Also, note that the bigger screen would cost more to keep that retina P/A ratio.
4.6? No way.
I could see them going anywhere from 3.7-4.3 while still using the same form factor (less bezel). That'd be quite the engineering feat and it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Doubt it would get any thinner unless it got longer/wider. Perhaps smaller components could allow for a bigger battery, but yup, I'm sure we'll just see 756MB/1GB of RAM, A5X, and LTE.
I would indeed love a ~4in screen though. And an improved camera on the front. I doubt they'd change the back camera, it's already spectacular.
I could see them going anywhere from 3.7-4.3 while still using the same form factor (less bezel). That'd be quite the engineering feat and it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Doubt it would get any thinner unless it got longer/wider. Perhaps smaller components could allow for a bigger battery, but yup, I'm sure we'll just see 756MB/1GB of RAM, A5X, and LTE.
I would indeed love a ~4in screen though. And an improved camera on the front. I doubt they'd change the back camera, it's already spectacular.
Additionally, with LTE a definite in the next iPhone, they will need a bigger battery. A bigger screen and therefore a bigger body will be the perfect excuse to make the device bigger and cram more battery in there.
Let's see what does the following have in common:
1. Larger iPhone Screen
2. Micro USB Port
3. SD slot
4. Smaller iPad screen
5. Macbook AIR with ARM cpu
... Android fans... don't believe this rumor at all - did it come from SemiAccurate.
Personally I like the existing size - it fits nicely in my pocket.
1. Larger iPhone Screen
2. Micro USB Port
3. SD slot
4. Smaller iPad screen
5. Macbook AIR with ARM cpu
... Android fans... don't believe this rumor at all - did it come from SemiAccurate.
Personally I like the existing size - it fits nicely in my pocket.
LOL 4.6 inches? Yah uhh no.
4 inches is the sweet spot I think. 4.3 is getting too big, 4.6 is hilarious.
4 inches is the sweet spot I think. 4.3 is getting too big, 4.6 is hilarious.
I'm sorry, but yeah, for the first few times Apple could do this. But people would catch on and Apple would ruin its name and people would go elsewhere. People don't like it when they buy your product with expectations of a good product and find crap. Keep doing it and then they'll expect that and go somewhere else to buy something rather than risk getting crap again.
This is exactly what I posted. 1140x640 at 4" is 326ppi. They retain the same form factor by reducing top and bottom bezel length. Alternatively, they can make the device a little longer. Unupdated apps run at 960x640 at 3.5".
What do they have in common?
Also, micro USB will not happen. It's too slow. Regular USB is slow enough already. An SD slot would be useless except for one task: taking photos with your camera then transferring them to the iPad. For that, just get a dongle that you can use whenever you need to do that, which is not often.
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I don't know if we really need 4 inches diagonal. For a personal device, 3.5 is just fine. I wouldn't really mind it though. I agree that anything beyond 4 is just stupid.
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If you were going to do that, you would have (and should have) started with Galaxy a while ago then waited for a 4" iPhone. I don't think anyone will switch to Galaxy with their bad OS and lack of device harmony.