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Questionable Rumor Claims Safari and iTunes to Merge Into Single Application
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No they were not fined for shipping IE with their machines. They were fined because they shipped IE with their machines, they made it nigh on impossible to remove IE and they made it extremely difficult to install third party browsers. Don't forget that this was in the era of IE 4 (remember the active desktop on Windows 98 SE?).
iTunes is slow as hell, Safari is great, merging the two would be a disaster! Plus it would make no sense, what if someone wants to use Chrome, will they be forced to open Safari every day just to use iTunes? Anyway, I really don't think Apple would do this, because it's about as stupid as merging Mail with Final Cut Pro, or the Trash with iCal, or iChat with System Profiler!
If anything, I think iTunes needs to be split up. They could add more to iTunes and keep it clean, but just refine it a little. It's not too cluttered, but adding safari would be a waste of time in my opinion.
How the iLife suite works now is...
iPhoto: Photo Management/a little bit of editing
iTunes: Music management + Movies, + Books + iOS device sync + store
iMovie: Video editing
Garageband: Not too good at actual music editing, better for making songs
What I want to happen, personally...
iTunes: (will have different name) Organize Photos, Music, Movies, TV shows, Podcasts, Books, Audiobooks, Apps, Mac Apps, Ringtones, Radio, etc... and has Apple Store built in too. So you organize everything here, ready to sync to multiple iOS devices.
Since you can access all your media, music, movies and photos. You can keep it more organized, so listen to music, while downloading an app and organize photos without having to waste resources using three different apps (iTunes, iPhoto and mac apps store).
Garageband (possibly change name to iTunes): Music editing
iPhoto: Photo editing
iMovie: Video editing
And that's it. I don't think iWeb and iDVD are used anymore, they might throw those out next iLife version.
I know what I said seems a little unrealistic, but NOTHING compared to merging safari and itunes! What would that be, safaritunes? lol. Just my 2 cents.
How the iLife suite works now is...
iPhoto: Photo Management/a little bit of editing
iTunes: Music management + Movies, + Books + iOS device sync + store
iMovie: Video editing
Garageband: Not too good at actual music editing, better for making songs
What I want to happen, personally...
iTunes: (will have different name) Organize Photos, Music, Movies, TV shows, Podcasts, Books, Audiobooks, Apps, Mac Apps, Ringtones, Radio, etc... and has Apple Store built in too. So you organize everything here, ready to sync to multiple iOS devices.
Since you can access all your media, music, movies and photos. You can keep it more organized, so listen to music, while downloading an app and organize photos without having to waste resources using three different apps (iTunes, iPhoto and mac apps store).
Garageband (possibly change name to iTunes): Music editing
iPhoto: Photo editing
iMovie: Video editing
And that's it. I don't think iWeb and iDVD are used anymore, they might throw those out next iLife version.
I know what I said seems a little unrealistic, but NOTHING compared to merging safari and itunes! What would that be, safaritunes? lol. Just my 2 cents.
Maybe this rumor doesn't mean exactly what it sounds like, possibly a poor translation, or just completely bogus, but this is my take.
90% of the iTunes Store is browser based, so it wouldn't be completely too far out there to read this as, "Apple is going to make the iTunes store a webapp, and remove it from the iTunes app"
90% of the iTunes Store is browser based, so it wouldn't be completely too far out there to read this as, "Apple is going to make the iTunes store a webapp, and remove it from the iTunes app"
Please, no. I like firefox, and I like being able to use separate windows for browsing and iTunesing. That would just mix two completely different applications that wouldn't work together, and should just stay separate. I can understand maybe incorporating a basic browser into the iTunes app, but making them one app would be counterproductive.
Also, can I get some creative names for such an app? I think that would be amusing.
Also, can I get some creative names for such an app? I think that would be amusing.
Sure it could. iTunes 9.x was a lot slower than iTunes 10.x is.
I get your point though.
Highly questionable that Apple would do this...
Surely the folks at Apple are smart enough to have learned from Microsoft's fiasco with Internet Exploder and their claim that IE is embedded in the OS for their reasoning in squeezing out competitors in the browser market...
If they make this move it will surely bring the feds in the U.S., but most definitely in the EU, filing anti-trust suits...
Surely the folks at Apple are smart enough to have learned from Microsoft's fiasco with Internet Exploder and their claim that IE is embedded in the OS for their reasoning in squeezing out competitors in the browser market...
If they make this move it will surely bring the feds in the U.S., but most definitely in the EU, filing anti-trust suits...
Seems like an infamous day for the Apple rumors/news world...
1 - SJ's leave of absence;
2 - Apple dropping more server-related products;
3 - Safari and iTunes together, which makes little to no sense at all.
Let's just forget this Monday and move on to Tuesday, shall we?
it wouldn't kill market share
you know how many people use iTunes
it would make them the leader
Ridiculous as it sounds, I wouldn't rule the possibility out, though I personally think there is a better chance that Apple will remove optical drives from all their products released next year and after. I think eventually that people are going to move away from optical storage, but that we don't have a solution that is going to make it happen as fast as Apple wants it to. In reality, the only reason such a combination of Safari and iTunes would even make sense is if the web became a commodity itself. Since the purpose of the internet is largely to be a free-flowing means of communication, I wouldn't expect the internet to take on that form as its primary function.
I wouldn't say there is no chance of this happening.
It's not like it would simply be iTunes + Safari.
I would think it would be mainly a browser, with "in the cloud" music streaming. And it would allow the computer and mobile devices to be the same. But for offline media and the app store.. i'm not so sure how it will benefit being on a browser?
It's not like it would simply be iTunes + Safari.
I would think it would be mainly a browser, with "in the cloud" music streaming. And it would allow the computer and mobile devices to be the same. But for offline media and the app store.. i'm not so sure how it will benefit being on a browser?
How about this:
iSync for managing everything between iDevices (apps, music, movies, books, etc)
iTunes for managing, playing, and editing music. Get rid of GarageBand.
iMovie for managing, playing, and editing video. Get rid of QuickTime and iDVD.
iPhoto for managing, viewing, and editing photos.
iChat for all person-to-person communication, including text and video. Get rid of Facetime.
iWeb for creating and browsing Web sites. Get rid of Safari.
App Store for downloading and managing apps for both iOS and OS X.
Pages for creating, reading, and editing Word documents and PDFs. Get rid of Preview.
Numbers for creating, reading, and editing Excel documents.
Keynote for creating, viewing, and editing slideshows.
Include Pages, Numbers, and Keynote on every new Mac, just like iLife.
While music, videos, apps, photos, PDFs, Word documents, etc can be used by other apps (such as iSync), everything would be manipulated only through their respective apps.
As horrid as this would be, you're absolutely right.
Apple will have it's minions salivating like Pavlov dogs.
I think it's time to give iTunes a new name. It no longer makes sense since they sell much more than that now. Either that, or create separate applications.
How about iMedia? Or iHub?
How about iMedia? Or iHub?
how nuts is this???
safari and itunes DON'T go together well!
itunes and the APP store app would go together well!!!
itunes and the iSYNC would go together well...!
if they want to merge something, then they should merge MAIL, iCAL and adress book!!!
safari and itunes DON'T go together well!
itunes and the APP store app would go together well!!!
itunes and the iSYNC would go together well...!
if they want to merge something, then they should merge MAIL, iCAL and adress book!!!
I don't think that is really what the issue at hand is. The issue at hand is that Apple sees itself as competing with Google. That said, a decision has to be made in the replacement of OS X with a new operating system in order to either compete with Chrome OS or for Apple to distance itself from a certain kind of integration that Chrome OS would emphasize. It's not clear whether Apple has made a decision one way or another on this, but it could make sense to integrate currently disparate programs together if Apple decides to embrace the Chrome OS approach in their own products. On the other hand, for all we know, Apple may decide to just rebuff Chrome OS for being too little of a solution for an operating system. Whichever choice it is, I think it will be the choice that Apple thinks is most profitable. See, I remember back when the Apple logo was multi-colored. There's a subtle hint in that the first color is green.
"We decided to take Safari and iTunes a step further. We love iOS; so we decided to merge what users love about iOS, Safari and iTunes into one. No more buttons. It's all multitouch."
what they obviously want to do is a trick with their clients.
they know that many people on the pc use itunes, but they don't use safari. by merging safari into itunes they simply force everyone to use safari. and even if the user won't use it, they can say "hey, it is installed - lets count it as a percentage in the statistics of browser installation".
isn't it sad that apple is playing such games with their clients?
what comes next? automatic app purchase if people don't buy apps?