ok misconception police, why have we not heard from people using MyWi but staying within 2GB/month
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Questions for those that received TETHERING notice from AT&T
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ok misconception police, why have we not heard from people using MyWi but staying within 2GB/month
Wow. Had to read it a few times just to check but yup, there it is, you didn't actually make a point. So Pwnage still applies. Must be tough having to hold back on your emoticon usage. I'm guessing that in order to get your fix you're adding loads more exclamation marks to your text messages!!!1!1!!!
They don't have to have proof. What do you think, that you're going to go to court with them over this? If you are tethering and they send you this notice, then if they decide to change your plan to the tethering plan, there ain't diddily squat you can do about it. It's their network and they will do whatever they want and you will just have to deal with it.
All of this talk about wether or not the TOS are legally enforceable is moot. Who's gonna take them to court over this? Besides, I think that the TOS are very clear. Everybody who has been tethering "illegally" is clearly breaking their TOS and AT&T is clearly within it's rights to charge you for it. Of course, wether you agree or not doesn't matter. If they want to charge you for it, they will.
The thing is that even if you take them to court, you lose even if u win. It's alot of money in legal fees etc. See if I was rich k would rake all the idiots to court just because I can, if u are doing something wrong then u should be charged. But this is why we had the FCC file a complaint and hopefully if enuff people do it then they will look into it.
This is funny and the irony of it as well. It is their network, use it by their rules or get off of it. All the people complaining are those using mywi and tethering. You thought you were smarter and weren't going to get caught sooner or later? The ride is up, now get off. Just the way people were bashing those waiting on an unlock, well this is karma. Either stop tethering and accept it or don't tether anymore.
Heard from people? Anyone on the internet can come in and say that they never heard from att and they are staying within 2GB/month. How do you proof it?
You are the people who believe that your unlimited plan includes tethering and believe att doesn't know just because they haven't charge anyone.
Wish there was less talk of nonsense. If you have an iphone but do not want to use data it does not matter. ATT detects you have one and gives you a plan. Don't like it then don't get an iPhone. Until someone comes up with some sort of proof that ATT is doing anything more than targeting high usage individuals then I do not see why this thread is even continuing. Just my side yes I have unlimited and yes I MyWi tether about 100-200mb a month for quite a while now and no message from ATT. When/if ATT figures out I am tethering then it was a nice ride but I will still keep my unlimited for Pandora and Netflix but stop tethering. I also feel it is my bandwidth that I paid for it should not matter how it is used but that's not the way it works as is life. Oddly if they gave me the option to tack on tethering for $5-10 more a month I would probably tether legit if I could keep my unlimited I go over 2gb from Pandora and Netflix as is.
Okay. iOS 4.1, MyWi, unlimited data plan, last month = 650MB no notice from AT&T. I also will say that I do minimal tethering. Probably less that 150MB of this data was tethered.
There are other posts, many many many on about 3 threads here Mac rumors and 2 on ModMyI
its not nonsense.
You should read the threads before saying its only high abusers, its everyone that is thought to tether.
I read one person who said they did get the text and they tether less then 2gb a month
Another person said that they do not tether and got the text.
The guy here on Mac rumors who claims 198GB this month no text.
and many others, seems more random then anything.
tether, netflix, pandora what ever if you go above 5gb on unlimited At&t thinks you are an abuser..............
I'll actually try to be helpful to the OP's question, since so many here are using this as a platform to argue either the ethics or legality of jailbreak tethering, and/or the ethics/legality of AT&T's move here. To be honest, I don't care about your opinions on either of those things, and that's not the purpose of this thread. If you want to talk about those things, take it to another thread.
I tether (somewhat regularly) with MyWi, and I have usually kept it below 1 GB (except the past 2 months, and that has actually been more Netflix than tethering). I've attached AT&T's graph of my usage. I have not gotten the notice so far, despite regular tethering. Now according to that internal memo, that doesn't mean that I won't get one, just that I haven't yet.
I tether (somewhat regularly) with MyWi, and I have usually kept it below 1 GB (except the past 2 months, and that has actually been more Netflix than tethering). I've attached AT&T's graph of my usage. I have not gotten the notice so far, despite regular tethering. Now according to that internal memo, that doesn't mean that I won't get one, just that I haven't yet.
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How about you all just pay for what you are using. I agree that tethering is expensive but you have to pay for what you want or use.
got to say all you people that side with ATT on this need to think this through. you are paying for unlimited data, what does it matter if you are using the phone or an ipad through the phone? 3 meg down (example) is 3 meg down. you cant go any faster.
and on the same logic, did you agree with the cable companies when they wanted to charge you per computer? nobody wanted that (many may not even remember that), and we got lucky because at that time consumer routers came about which made it easy(er) to hide multiple computers.
either way, we are paying almost as much as our voice plan or home internet etc as we do for a data plan for a phone which is ridiculous. people need to understand we are being gouged here. look at text messaging, what a joke that they charge for this. and on top, we get hit for sending as well as receiving.
so if you feel bad for using a service you pay for in a way that benefits you and feel bad for a company that does nothing but stick it to you each month then so be it, but in the end, i feel bad for you
...Really?
I agree 100%. What cell phone companies are charging is absolutely absurd, but unfortunately we pay it. Makes me wanna switch to Boostmobile... Sprint network is cool right? Too bad no really good phones..
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I agree that you are paying for unlimited data and yes you can use it however you want according to the agreement you signed. If the companies want to charge per computer then let me because they is what they offer.
I totally agree with you that the data rates are way to expensive but that is the price. I agree that people are being gouged at the prices, and text message should be free but it isn't. The price is the price and if you don't like it don't buy it, nobody is forcing you to buy it. iPhones are expensive as well but people don't complain that. I don't download torrents because it is illegally using copyrighted material just like I won't jailbreak and tether which would be going against the Terms of Service.
Again your not being forced to buy it, you agree and get what you pay for from AT&T and others and so live with it.
Hmmmm....this is almost like having a YouTube account and publishing copyrighted content that you don't legally have rights to. Looks like someone draws their moral lines that aren't necessarily on the straight & narrow. Shocking!! Also note that just because AT&T wrote it into the agreement doesn't mean it's legal. It just just means that they haven't been challenged broadly enough to have the beatdown put on them by the courts. In fact, I think it's just a matter of time before some of the more blatant practices like forcing a data plan on people simply for putting their SIM into a smart phone (yes, even those not subsidized by a contract) get called out and AT&T get their hand slapped for it.
For those who are looking for data points and not a sermon... Over 2 years ago, long before I started jailbreaking I received a text notice from AT&T informing me about tethering and their interpretation of things. It wasn't the direct threat that's been more broadly published of late but I did see someone post the exact message I received way back when. I now have been tethering regularly via MyWi but have always stayed under 2GB, with the exception of last month where I was at 2.1GB and I have not received the warning. Again, just another data point.
Wow, I was happy to find a thread about this. However I didn't realize it would be full of jerk offs thread crapping. That should be illigal and you should all burn in hell.
I tether with mywi, use around 6 to 7 gigs a month. I got the email. I work with a few other people that use the same amount and they got it as well. One of the people I work with tethers but only uses around 1 gig a month. She did not get an email. One of the people that got the email had an iPhone 3G non-jailbreak. He used a carrier update that allowed him to tether, no mywi or other tether app.
It seems with the amount of people that got emails we would have heard about someone by now that got converted out of the unlimited plan. I can't find anything. Seems strange.
Also when I called the number to say do not change my plan the guy I talked to didn't know if I was tethering or sim swaping. Not sure if that is relevant in any way but seemed odd considering first he told me I was tethering.
I tether with mywi, use around 6 to 7 gigs a month. I got the email. I work with a few other people that use the same amount and they got it as well. One of the people I work with tethers but only uses around 1 gig a month. She did not get an email. One of the people that got the email had an iPhone 3G non-jailbreak. He used a carrier update that allowed him to tether, no mywi or other tether app.
It seems with the amount of people that got emails we would have heard about someone by now that got converted out of the unlimited plan. I can't find anything. Seems strange.
Also when I called the number to say do not change my plan the guy I talked to didn't know if I was tethering or sim swaping. Not sure if that is relevant in any way but seemed odd considering first he told me I was tethering.
First Chart: Did not get tethering email and I do use MyWi.
Second Chart: Did not get tethering email and has used MyWi months ago but no longer does. The sudden jump in data usage is from streaming podcasts 8 hours a day at work.
Third Chart: DID get the tethering email but just recently, maybe a week ago.
This reply is just to stay on topic and maybe help.
Second Chart: Did not get tethering email and has used MyWi months ago but no longer does. The sudden jump in data usage is from streaming podcasts 8 hours a day at work.
Third Chart: DID get the tethering email but just recently, maybe a week ago.
This reply is just to stay on topic and maybe help.
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I'm fairly certain the number is 5GB+ and they look into how it's being used. Below that it's not worth their resources.
I was mistaken with my usage.
13.6GB Oct
1.1GB Nov
10.6GB Dec
6.4GB Jan
12.8GB Feb
12.1GB Mar
With that said, the guys that I see posting charts that got letters were over 10, and guys with usage under 10 didn't get a letter. Obviously nothing concrete here but maybe....
Has anyone seen or know anyone that actually got moved off the unlimited plan?
13.6GB Oct
1.1GB Nov
10.6GB Dec
6.4GB Jan
12.8GB Feb
12.1GB Mar
With that said, the guys that I see posting charts that got letters were over 10, and guys with usage under 10 didn't get a letter. Obviously nothing concrete here but maybe....
Has anyone seen or know anyone that actually got moved off the unlimited plan?