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Don't know why they call it a subscription, because you pay for the new version and after a year if you don't want the new version then you just cancel. No monthly payments as in a real subscription model. But if you don't cancel they will auto charge you for the following year or two....

The question is what functionality do you retain if you don't resubscribe.
 
So I see this comes with 5gb of cloud for backups. Is the cloud the only place you can backup to or hopefully you can still backup to local computer.
Also is this subscription crap only for the Mac versions or for windows versions as well? Didn’t see anything indicating it was cloud storage only and no way do I want my financial stuff “in the cloud” so will have to see if quickens website indicates this.
 
I moved to Banktivity (formerly iBank) years ago when the Mac version of Quicken was effectively orphaned by Intuit. I’ve been very happy ever since. Good software with good support.
Me too.

After years and years of using Quicken I consigned it to a slow death in the hell I don’t believe in.

For me, I just need to track all my accounts, categorize all my expenses for my taxes, and run detailed reports. Banktivity does just fine and I can use it on my iPad. Their support is superb.
 
With this change also comes a shift to a subscription-based service. Instead of purchasing upgrades each year, Quicken customers will automatically receive the latest version of Quicken as long as a membership is maintained, with one and two-year memberships available.

Since when did Quicken have a new Mac version every year? The only full-featured (and I use that term loosely) version of Quicken for modern versions of OS X until about three years ago was Quicken 2007, which was more than 8 years old at that point (having been released in 2006, with a later PPC-to-Intel update they charged for but provided no other features). They slowly worked on turning their half-baked Quicken Essentials for Mac software into Quicken 2015, and I know they've also released 2016, 2017, and now 2018 versions, but the "new features" list has seemed really lackluster (e.g., "now you can see your home's value ... from Zillow, which you can also check") and I still don't trust them to do well on the Mac given their history. I'm not sure why anyone would. The data files still aren't compatible between Mac and Windows except that in "most cases" you can manually export and import, so the momentum the Windows version has shouldn't really sway Mac users here, either.

It's a little tougher to set up (especially on Mac), but I've been using jGnash2 and love it. It's cross-platform, which I like. Lots of Mac-only users seem to like Banktivity (formerly iBank), and there are cross-platform alternatives like GnuCash (never got that to work well for me, though) as well. I'm staying away from Intuit...OK, so maybe they've changed their ways? Quicken here, especially if I have to pay to "subscribe" and keep using the software--I think? It also says, "Free, ongoing enhancements and updates are on a when-and-if-available basis through April 2020," which is confusing--do you get to keep your existing version and use it indefinitely when your subscription ends and the subscription just includes and major (or minor) updates that happen to occur while you're subscribed? If so, that's not as bad.
 
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Remember folks, this is a new company and not Intuit. I don't like the subscription model either, but I found that I'm updating Quicken every year anyway (my choice and YMMV). I've found the new Mac product to be very good, albeit with some disparity with the Windows version. It was good enough for me to move from Parallels/Quicken for Windows to Quicken Mac a couple years ago and I've not looked back. I believe there is/was a trial and I'd recommend taking another look.

Rob

I agree with what you wrote and also moved away from using Parallels/Windows Quicken with the last release. I have found the Quicken 2017 Mac version to be very good, although still a little feature incomplete. I will get the subscription as I find a lot of value in this product.

I appreciate people being cost-conscious, but I think great software, with secure services, should have a cost to it. I want the developers to stick around and have the resources to improve the product.
 
I'm staying away from Intuit here, especially if I have to pay to "subscribe" and keep using the software--I think?
Again, Quicken is now a new company. They are no longer owned/developed by Intuit.
 
My wife uses Quickbooks for her business, this is Quicken.
Mac user here, using Quickbooks at work .... and on the advice of Intuit themselves, using Parallels and the Windows version of QB. They acknowledge that the Mac version is lacking in comparison to the Windows version.
 
Also is this subscription crap only for the Mac versions or for windows versions as well?
Both. The subscription costs for each plan include Quicken for both platforms. Buy one, the other is included with the subscription…

From https://www.quicken.com/mac/compare:
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I think this continual push towards software subscriptions will only push people further from proprietary software and closer to open-source software.
Every developer wants a blank check these days.

That said, I do think that apps which require constant maintenance probably have more of a shot at justifying a subscription. Something that delivers content or has to maintain interfaces with lots of external data sources, I kind of get it. A writing app like Ulysses, on the other hand? That smells funny.
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I moved to Banktivity (formerly iBank) years ago when the Mac version of Quicken was effectively orphaned by Intuit. I’ve been very happy ever since. Good software with good support.
Good to know! I was messing around with YNAB for a while but found the mobile app pretty weak -- and then it went to a subscription model and I dropped it.
 
No standalone version is a deal breaker. Cloud? No, thanks. Not even for free.
 
I had a hate relationship with Intuit for years, but the new Quicken company has been great. Many updates (with added features as well as bug fixes) during the year, so I've been buying a new copy every year anyway -- this will actually save me some money.

People, keep in mind that the subscription gets you updates and the various cloud services. In that respect it is little different than its always been. You just get 2 years of services instead of 3, and 2 years of updates instead of 1. After the subscription it will continue to run, just without the connections to banks and brokers, same as older versions.
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No standalone version is a deal breaker. Cloud? No, thanks. Not even for free.

It can be used standalone after registration, just like the current (2017) version.

All Quicken 2018 products will use the new Quicken ID. The Quicken ID is a new ID you'll use to access all Quicken applications, including Quicken for Windows, Quicken for Mac, Quicken Mobile, and Quicken.com. If you don't already have a Quicken ID, you'll be prompted to create one when you install and open Quicken. You can still use Quicken manually if you prefer, however, you will need to go online to register your Quicken ID at least once.​

In addition, as long as you have Mobile Sync turned off, none of your data will be stored in the cloud.
 
Do any of these financial apps actually work fully for non-US users (eg. UK)?

Quicken, Quickbooks, Banktivity, ...

Are they really worth the time and effort to use. Say compared to using spreadsheets?

I tried one once, and got so fed up of trying to work out the interface, I just gave up. :cool:
 
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Do any of these financial apps actually work fully for non-US users (eg. UK)?

Quicken, Quickbooks, Banktivity, ...

Are they really worth the time and effort to use. Say compared to using spreadsheets?

I tried the ne once, and got so fed up of trying to work out the interface, I just gave up. :cool:
From Banktivity’s FAQ:

“Will your applications work for non-U.S. customers?
Yes, all of our applications should work regardless of your location. In most cases our programs use your currency and format settings from System Preferences. Our software is localized for the English language only, but we have thousands of users in over 50 countries successfully using our products.”
 
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From Banktivity’s FAQ:

“Will your applications work for non-U.S. customers?
Yes, all of our applications should work regardless of your location. In most cases our programs use your currency and format settings from System Preferences. Our software is localized for the English language only, but we have thousands of users in over 50 countries successfully using our products.”
What about the other two though?
 
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