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Originally posted by madamimadamtimallen
Tell me about it.... not only 4 DDR and Firewire 2 but also 64 bit PCI.

Not too happy about the 133MHz bus, though..... that is just wrong. If Apple released a 133MHz board with DDR all my happines will be gone. What good is having fast RAM if it is then bottlenecked to 133?

I wonder what the planned AGP is? I would LOVE to take full advantage of the Ti card instead of having a cut back version.

133MHz system bus = DDR266

So actually they wouldn't be too far off, but since we're hearing about DDR400 and DDR533 coming down the pipe soon, hopefully Apple will be on the forefront this time and not trailing WAAAAAAYYYY behind the memory bandwidth again. :rolleyes:
 
Long time reader, first time poster :)

Hi,

I want to clear up a thing here: there's nothing weird about the 28 volts power supply: it's necessary for powering an AGP video card with ADC connector on it. (28 volts, 4A). The lucky ones who have downloaded the picture can verify this: in front of the AGP slot there's a small brown connector, similar to the one on my own G4/500 motherboard. It's being used by my Rage 128 for supplying the ADC with power.
 
This link to Applefritter says that Apple uses different color motherboards in the prototype process— blue, yellow, red, and green.

They show another red motherboard for a prototype 6100.
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU


133MHz system bus = DDR266

So actually they wouldn't be too far off, but since we're hearing about DDR400 and DDR533 coming down the pipe soon, hopefully Apple will be on the forefront this time and not trailing WAAAAAAYYYY behind the memory bandwidth again. :rolleyes:

Maybe I have to calm down all my spontantious ideas running around and around my head but we in the Apple world need to kick some serious butt. I want Apple to drop the "beautiful" image in the PRO line and push a truely beautiful and beautifully blazingly fast image. 133MHz is getting on and is being readied for all consumer machines.
 
Re: Long time reader, first time poster :)

Originally posted by Dr. Distortion
Hi,

I want to clear up a thing here: there's nothing weird about the 28 volts power supply: it's necessary for powering an AGP video card with ADC connector on it. (28 volts, 4A). The lucky ones who have downloaded the picture can verify this: in front of the AGP slot there's a small brown connector, similar to the one on my own G4/500 motherboard. It's being used by my Rage 128 for supplying the ADC with power.

Nice first post.

Why then was there a big flag on the ebay page saying make sure your system is compatible with the 28v. I guess it doesn't matter now that the board has been taken off ebay. I wonder if someone is feeling undue pressure right now from Apple?
 
Re: Re: Long time reader, first time poster :)

Originally posted by dukestreet


Nice first post.

Why then was there a big flag on the ebay page saying make sure your system is compatible with the 28v. I guess it doesn't matter now that the board has been taken off ebay. I wonder if someone is feeling undue pressure right now from Apple?

Undue? If someone was trying to sell an Apple prototype motherboard, I'd say the pressure was due!


blakespot
 
I say we give a HUGE shout out to bobindashadows and TwitchOSX, that is a champion effort
 
Originally posted by iH8Quark
heh...they took it off ebay.

apple legal and mischief tag-team i suppose. ;)

That sounds like an admission that it's real, to me. :D

Not Precisely that directly...........but close. Now you know. :D
 
ebay email

this is the reply i got today:

Hi all,



This board was sent to a friend of mine and was issued as a test board. I

have been notified by Apple and eBay that this board was never intended for

sale and the auction was cancelled at Apple's request. I apologize to all

that this turned out to be a problem.



To all that were interested, this board runs GREAT. The DDR memory really

improves the performance. I hope I am able to offer similar boards in the

near future.



Sea
 
Re: ebay email

Originally posted by 3rdpath
… the auction was cancelled at Apple's request.

He makes it sound so uneventful. eBay and Apple both saying "what were you thinking" seems like more than just a "request" to me.

Cool that you heard from him though. Good work.
 
Answers

Straight from www.xlr8yourmac.com...

Ebay DDR G4 Motherboard Pulled - Comments from Seller -
The Ebay auction link to the Prototype G4/DDR motherboard posted earlier today is no longer valid. I suspect the mothership spotted it and put an end to the auction. (Update - here's an email from the reader that wrote the seller about the item:)

"Hi Mike, I read your piece on the G4 DDR MB and paid a visit to the auction. I inquired about the MB and here is his response:

" On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 04:42 PM, Sean C. wrote:
Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #2020903080
Hi all,
This board was sent to a friend of mine and was issued as a test board. I have been notified by Apple and eBay that this board was never intended for sale and the auction was cancelled at Apple's request. I apologize to all that this turned out to be a problem.

To all that were interested, this board runs GREAT. The DDR memory really improves the performance. I hope I am able to offer similar boards in the near future.
"

Best regards,
Roland "

I find it hard to believe that an avid Mac user who could truly appreciate the performance increase and would have been granted access to such a piece of hardware would be inept enough to attempt to sell this board on eBay... Something is rotten in the state of Denmark... An Apple plant to whet our appetites, maybe?
 
Re: ebay email

Originally posted by 3rdpath
this is the reply i got today:

Hi all,



This board was sent to a friend of mine and was issued as a test board. I

have been notified by Apple and eBay that this board was never intended for

sale and the auction was cancelled at Apple's request. I apologize to all

that this turned out to be a problem.



To all that were interested, this board runs GREAT. The DDR memory really

improves the performance. I hope I am able to offer similar boards in the

near future.



Sea

All I can say is wow. Totally wow. I'm excited now. I bet there's some pissed off people at Apple if this is really real. :D
 
Re: Answers

I find it hard to believe that an avid Mac user who could truly appreciate the performance increase and would have been granted access to such a piece of hardware would be inept enough to attempt to sell this board on eBay... Something is rotten in the state of Denmark... An Apple plant to whet our appetites, maybe?

I agree...something doesn't seem right about this. If a friend of mine gave me this board I wouldn't even think of putting it on ebay.
 
Re: Re: Answers

Originally posted by theranch


I agree...something doesn't seem right about this. If a friend of mine gave me this board I wouldn't even think of putting it on ebay.

You might if it was bugged
 
Bugged? I don't know about that but... Seriously! Is this guy a complete freakin' moron?!

#1 Duh! It's Apple's property. Who would think they could get away with selling it?!
#2 If it runs so great, why get rid of it?
#3 Why get rid of it anyway???
#4 Why does this guy sign his letter SEA in one version, and Roland in another? Is that his company?
#5 What an anticlimatic end to the best Apple drama this year!

It all sounds WAY too fishy for me. It's got to be some Apple disinformation trickery.

(however, It was a GREAT way to spend the afternoon!!)

Jeremy
 
Shame he couldn't have provided benchmarks

I wish the guy had run a few benchmarks on the prototype before he sold it. I imagine memory bandwidth hungry stuff like photoshop and audio plug-ins would have run quite a bit faster than current models can, even if the CPUs were exactly the same.

I was reading something on the Pentium 4 the other day and at 2 Ghz, it's got a 20 x multiplier, the bus speed is rated at 100 x 4.

This would probably mean with a custom memory controller a G4 could easily run DDR RAM at 133 x 2. As far as I know the maximum multiplier on a PPC7455 is 10, if so we could have a 1.33Ghz G4 with 2Gb of DDR Ram later in the year if this prototype isn't scrapped in favour of something even better.
 
Originally posted by mywar2000
It all sounds WAY too fishy for me. It's got to be some Apple disinformation trickery.

I can't remember any time where Apple has deliberately tried to fool us and waste our time. It's probably a developer close to Apple that wnted to get the word out that Apple has something in the works.

If the guy is for real, he is a moron. He says he hopes to do it again if he gets the oppurtunity. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't say or do these things. So his words are not to be believed, but the image is IMO.
 
Originally posted by mywar2000
Bugged? I don't know about that but... Seriously! Is this guy a complete freakin' moron?!

#1 Duh! It's Apple's property. Who would think they could get away with selling it?!
#2 If it runs so great, why get rid of it?
#3 Why get rid of it anyway???
#4 Why does this guy sign his letter SEA in one version, and Roland in another? Is that his company?
#5 What an anticlimatic end to the best Apple drama this year!

It all sounds WAY too fishy for me. It's got to be some Apple disinformation trickery.

(however, It was a GREAT way to spend the afternoon!!)

Jeremy

What I am saying is that if you have a product like that and you sell it, the chances are that it is not as good as it is sounds due to bugs because it is only a prototype. Remember, prototypes are made because it is almost 100% impossible to make a new technology with no problems the first time. The guy who gave him that board probably found problems with it and since then Apple has probably had a new Prototype.

The thing is, PLENTY of people would buy this board for what it is not thinking about the fact that if it was totally working it would not be a prototype
 
not to be dampening the buzz here but...

Even if this thing is an actual prototype board by made Apple, it doesn't tell us much about what's actually coming our way in the near future. I am sure, and as others have pointed out, Apple's been testing DDR Ram, firewire 2, and other goodies for while now--these aren't new technologies. The fact that these things are being tested doesn't mean much to me as a consumer.

The only potential new information this gives us is that Apple could be playing with a rack-mount server design. But again, this is pure speculation. And again, this is a prototype, at best, so it may never see the light of day.
 
I say its an early prototype, that Apple never released because they weren't ready to release enough products with DDR RAM; it they did, it could seriouly have hurt iMac and iBook sales.
 
Re: not to be dampening the buzz here but...

Originally posted by dongmin
I am sure, and as others have pointed out, Apple's been testing DDR Ram, firewire 2, and other goodies for while now--these aren't new technologies. The fact that these things are being tested doesn't mean much to me as a consumer.

The mere fact that this now-famed board has on it what we have all been specualting about in a concrete, semi-legit picture is just mind-blowing. We're all consumers here, but with allegations like these, we throw consumerism out the window and crank the drool factor to 10.

Screw all speculation, this is what we've all been waiting for. Even if it is just a prototype, it gives us more reassurance to further our suspicions/hopes. I guess this little episode epitomizes what this site is all about.
 
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