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R.I.P. iPhone
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Again, the question - how can I use one of these new iPhones on a conference call or any kind of call, with headphones, for more than a few hours? I'm regularly on long, long calls and VC sessions in an office and need headphones. Do I have to keep two pairs of wireless ones and hot-swap when one set runs out of power? Useless.
I mean the obvious answer is to use Lightning headphones but then you run into the problem of not being able to have your phone charging on long calls. This IS a problem that Apple is going to have to address at some point. Perhaps via wireless recharging or a daisy-chainable power connector?
So funny. I haven't used a wired headphone jack in over 2 years. By the off chance I do, I will have the adapter. I have an expensive pair of Bose I keep as a backup, that never see the outside of my backpack.
This is long overdue imo. Just another hole for water to damage.
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Wireless headphones last a while. I have a pair of jaybird x2 that last 5+ hours easy on conf calls. How long are your calls? I thought my company had long calls...
I just plug them in between uses, I have a mophie 15000 mah battery that lasts a week charging all my devices before I need to recharge. Look into it.
Happier with android? How do you arrive at that absurdity? I get the feeling that a lot of people are equating pro-headphone jack to mean anti-iPhone. As I say, it's absurd to conclude this.
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Bluetooth headphones are lousy at best. Btw, going swimming with an iPhone isn't something I would plan to do.
With the lightning headphones that come in the box, or using the lighting to 3.5 adapter that also comes in the box
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Uhm.... how are you currently doing your conference calls with headphones? Plugged into the 3.5 port, I assume.... well then EASY PEASY: You use the INCLUDED dongle and plug your headphones into the lightning port.
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I should have read further before answering... you beat me to it!
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I actually love my LG Bluetooth headphones....
They got about 11 years with the 30 pin connector interface before they switched to the current Lightning port. I think their tendency to arbitrarily change standards is the LAST thing they do at Apple. They are all in on that Lightning port, they would lose a boatload or two of money if they decided to change the interface again, even if it's what all of the other phones are using. Like it or hate it, there's definitely a method to their madness. Lest we forget how "outraged" we were when Steve Jobs said everything we do on Macbook Air will be wireless... oh noes? I don'ts haz an optikal drives???
Technological improvements in headphones mostly come not from cable usage, but from the other components like the drivers themselves. Now, this part won't affect really budget-conscious users as much, because part breakage is more common and more easily absorbed, but what we are beginning to introduce to the headphone market is obsolescence by way of compatibility.
Normally, your headphone may be worn and damaged, perhaps of less quality to the next generation from the same manufacturer, and so you get adventurous and buy another set. But you could rest assured that you didn't really have to worry about whether or not you could connect the things to your source. You didn't have to worry about whether or not the connection you are using is not going to be "outdated" by the manufacturer of your source. You didn't worry about whether or not some arbitrary decision to adopt one connection standard or the other is part of some master plan to shaft the other team or keep you invested in their ecosystem.
Why on God's green earth should we be subjecting people to such nonsense when these ports these tech companies have tirelessly marketed practically change a few times every decade?
Dare I worry that my next headphone purchase be obsolete because I went with lightning and in a few years Apple tosses lightning aside, and so too the rest of the market? What if internal improvements to the standard reek havoc on a consumer with a headphone utilizing a cable that no longer is compatible because USB-C morphed into USB-D and for reasons either technical or financial, no one decided in favor of simple backwards compatibility?
Meanwhile, with the trusty old analog ports, I needn't worry too much about fast standard evolutions nor the fleeting interests of a technology company or consortium. It just works. Of course, the headphone's performance itself is largely agnostic with this venture anyway, so I say, "why put more confusion and frustration on the consumer when it produces little to no benefits for him?"
Yes, argument fail indeed. On your part. I never once said anything about Bluetooth. I'm talking lightning vs analog.
Actually, that still annoys me and is still a major reason why I have not purchased a portable Mac since the early Obama administration.
You missed the point. I can't run the phone plugged in unless using wireless headphones. If I do that the headphones may not last the distance, but I can't switch to wired headphones because the port is being used for power.
Maybe I could unplug the phone, switch to wired headphones while the wireless ones recharge, and hope that the wireless headphones finish recharging before the phone runs down. Or, y'know, use a different phone.
All-nighters are not unknown. They'd need a pass through adapter or power plus audio adapter.
LOL. Step aside lest you get steamrollered by the wheels of progress.
"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home." -- Ken Olsen
Where does it say that removing the headphone jack is progress? The headphone jack did not stop Bluetooth headphones from entering the market in 2006, the headphone jack did not stop Lightning headphones from entering the market in 2014. Users voted, they don't like these inconvenient technologies, yet Apple is pushing them on their consumers anyway, and pushing them with a proprietary port that few manufacturers will support.
Electricity is older than the headphone jack; should we get rid of that too? I mean, who cares that everyone loves it and it's universal. It's "old" therefore it's got to go, right? Call the electric company, tell them to turn off your service, then tell your family "oh, it's progress".
BJ
Do you feel like giving this a read: https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnpaczko...headphone-jack?utm_term=.lryoBbBm6#.bvBQq2qvn
Gives some pretty detailed reasons behind the decision. Would be interested in hearing your thoughts on this.
The problem with this whole discussion is the implicit assumption that the only thing you plug headphones into is a phone. Personally, I have a bunch of audio gear that I use with headphones, none of which is going to be moving to any new connection any time soon. Furthermore, there's a vast difference between performance headphones that you use in your home and portable headphones that you take with you everywhere. It makes sense to me to make headphones for mobile devices that have the best interconnect possible, and the 3.5mm jack is not that interface.
when people talk cost of making they forget research (no matter how simple there is), packaging, shipping to US or store or? and there are a lot of costs.
Profits is what drives capitalism and allows Apple and others to do what they do. People may not think they own Apple stock but I bet most retirement plans have some Apple in their portfolios.
Do you still use a Floppy Drive or CD Drive @dogslobber ? If so, I am sorry for your lack of change.
Good insight. My thoughts break down into two areas:
Digital & Wireless Future: Yes, I agree completely that a great digital wireless protocol is where audio will eventually go and we will all be happy to cut the cord when it happens. But I don't think Bluetooth is the answer and I don't appreciate being forced into this before the market has products that satisfy me. Bluetooth is bad on battery, hissy, distorted, has frequent dropouts, and is a 10 year old standard that predates the iPhone. Where is Apple with a new wireless standard? How about a week of playback time on a charge? How about better sound quality than wired? Apple can't just say "hey, Bluetooth is out there, enjoy" when we've had that opportunity for years and most of us aren't interested.
Using The Space For Something Else: The better camera applies to the Plus, I'm not a Plus guy, it's not relevant to the cash-cow iPhone 7. The space Apple took from the headphone jack they gave to two things no one cares about. Haptic engine that replicates a physical Home button? So what? They could have made that move and not told me and I'd never have known about it. There is still a Home button, it still clicks, I don't care what goes on under the hood for the Home button. And then there is water-resistance. I don't swim with my iPhone and despite taking vacations 3x a year in the Carribean and owning a beach house and using a toilet 2x a day I've never had a close call with water, ever.
Apple is saying wireless is the future but they have no roadmap or product for that future. Go reinvent wireless audio, that would be amazing. Apple is saying they need the space for new features. Go create meaningful features that we really care about.
BJ