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It'll fit perfectly and I can FINALLY open more than 3 Chrome tabs!
 
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It'll fit perfectly and I can FINALLY open more than 3 Chrome tabs!
Lack Rack FTW, though I don't know why you opened it's gate so wide, it should have fit just fine with default mounting holes.
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Google Netboot and Netinstall. (Supported from Mac OS 8.5 until 10.15)

I'm familiar with it, but I doubt most people are.

Even a decent amount of my Enterprise Customers still don't use PXE boot.
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I imagine racks of these wonderful rendering machines as efficient electric "heaters" when processing multiple 8k video streams.

Meanwhile Imagine Communications Nexio just OEM's HPE Servers...
 
It is still a workstation, not a server. I think this is more about mounting it alongside video/audio studio equipment than turning it into a server/high-density computing device.

The MP only remotely makes sense if you want/need to run MacOS based applications (which, as well as being GUI driven, often rely on a meaty GPU for acceleration). If you want a headless server or compute farm, more bangs per buck are available with generic PC hardware (which is why the XServe is no more, too).

Makes a lot of sense. Was thinking of it in a server sense. - Though other vendors aren't exactly cheap about that either, so I'm not really sure about the whole pricing thing in this sector.
In any case, yeah; there's no particular reason to get a Mac server instead of Redhat, Ubuntu or whatever. Well, very very few reasons anyway.
 
How can an article on a rack mount Mac Pro (or a rack mount anything, for that matter) not include the number rack units it occupies?

Amazingly, unless I overlooked it, Apple’s own tech specs page doesn’t have this either. At 8.7” high, it looks like 5U, for the curious.
 
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The GPU is a super-powerful processing unit tapped in for more than video output. It can be used for advanced numeric calculations, server-side rendering farms, etc.

Of course. But not all code can run on the GPU, and the option is good to have, but in a system like the Mac Pro Rack, a case could be made for having it be optional.

Let's clear up some confusion.

macOS is a true UNIX operating system (of which Linux was derived). OS X Server was just a set of tools for managing "server apps". Those server apps can be installed on any Mac running macOS. There was nothing that OS X Server enabled to make it a server. Every Mac can be a server.

I do my full-stack web development on my 6-year old MacBook Air, and it runs *exactly* the same software as my 20+ Ubuntu Linux servers set up at 6 different hosting providers around the world.

The true power of a Mac is not in the user interface, but at the command line, same as Linux. A whole world of software is available for installation easily via package managers, just like in the Linux world. Homebrew (brew.sh) and MacPorts (www.macports.org) are the two most popular sources of such software.

And I just want to add to this, that a lot of what is offered in what is now the macOS Server app, is actually just a graphical front end Apple made for programs that you can run free of charge, and FOSS even, through the Terminal.
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"Use Cabling"
What does that even mean?

To my knowledge, there's no special management port, so whilst it's less than ideal, I was thinking booting in Target Disk Mode to send over a configured system image to the device, with everything you need after boot set up to be launched by launchd
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Xeon chips have no iGPU - last i knew. So it would to have some graphics card.

Only if you need video output
 
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Can you put this thing on a desk or does it need special rack casing ?

is this open like on the pic or comes with a closed case like the Mac pro?
 
No reason for the rack mounted version to have a GPU in it by default. Could remove it and cut the price a little, though even without cutting the price, having the internal space cleared out of the factory might even be nice to some costumers.

I agree, or at the very least send it back to Apple for a discount, or when you buy it at a retail store (if they even have it in stock) allow them to recycle it for a discount.

When I worked at an Apple retail store we had to fight customers who wanted custom configurations of the PowerMac and MacPro but were charged for BOTH the standard hardware and upgrades.

We kept telling them to order it online but a lot of them didn't understand why we didn't just take the component out and keep it.

Look forward to having one of these as a $58 fancy end-table around 2032 :)

Reminds me of the PowerMac G5 mailboxes.

Who's going to use this as a server, though? Aside from hardcore Mac partisans, I can't think of anyone using it for that purpose. This is ideal for rack-mounted workflows, like video production.

Not too many, but there are some who will get this and try their best to us the Mac OS X "Server" plugin/firmware addon that Apple sells.

I'm just glad that the 9 year wait for a tru rack mountable Mac Pro is over.

Forgive me please, but I’m struggling to see why Apple are charging a thousand dollars extra for a different case? Can anyone enlighten me as to the reason?

The case has been changed a great deal from the picture alone. I'm sure there's more internally that's been adjusted. If we think of the current Mac Pro turned on it's side we can imagine the top Thunderbolt ports being removed or moved. The handle to open the case is gone. The fans need to be adjusted (heat rises) and a technician won't be able to access the "under side" of the case while it's in a rack.

Makes a lot of sense. Was thinking of it in a server sense. - Though other vendors aren't exactly cheap about that either, so I'm not really sure about the whole pricing thing in this sector.
In any case, yeah; there's no particular reason to get a Mac server instead of Redhat, Ubuntu or whatever. Well, very very few reasons anyway.

Same here, and I was going to disagree with him at first but after reading your post both of you are correct.

Although, price wise it's still very inline with mid to high end server offerings from Boxx and Dell and HP.

Can you put this thing on a desk or does it need special rack casing ?

is this open like on the pic or comes with a closed case like the Mac pro?

You can, but there's no reason to buy the rack version and not put it in a rack.

It will be closed, but Apple is showing how the internals have been adjusted to have it make sense inside of a rack.
 
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Not overpriced, it’s not a personal computer. Go price out a Dell workstation and it comes very close to the same price minus a little Apple tax. And MacOS is far better than Linux.
Have you actually priced one out yourself, or just reiterating what you read somewhere because a Dell Precision 7920 Rack @ $6400 gets you this:

  • Intel Xeon Gold 6230 2.1GHz, 3.9GHz Turbo, 20C, 10.4GT/s 3UPI, 27.5MB Cache, HT
  • Windows® 10 Pro for Workstation (4 Cores Plus) Multi - English
  • Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000, 8GB, 3DP, VirtualLink (7920R)
  • 48GB 6x8GB DDR4 2666MHz RDIMM ECC Memory
  • 2.5" 512GB SATA Class 20 Solid State Drive
Seems like you get WAY MORE for the same money @ Dell. Granted, the 7920 may or may not be able to handle $50K worth of additional graphics and memory, but as a base model, the 7920 outperforms the Mac Pro handily. The SATA drive in the Dell sucks, but $300 gets you a PCI-e adapter and a 2TB NVMe SSD.
 
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Something in between a MacMini and a MacPro please....
A Mini is not enough and doesn't have a PCIe slot and e Pro is too expensive.
 
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The GPU is a super-powerful processing unit tapped in for more than video output. It can be used for advanced numeric calculations, server-side rendering farms, etc.
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Let's clear up some confusion.

macOS is a true UNIX operating system (of which Linux was derived). OS X Server was just a set of tools for managing "server apps". Those server apps can be installed on any Mac running macOS. There was nothing that OS X Server enabled to make it a server. Every Mac can be a server.

I do my full-stack web development on my 6-year old MacBook Air, and it runs *exactly* the same software as my 20+ Ubuntu Linux servers set up at 6 different hosting providers around the world.

The true power of a Mac is not in the user interface, but at the command line, same as Linux. A whole world of software is available for installation easily via package managers, just like in the Linux world. Homebrew (brew.sh) and MacPorts (www.macports.org) are the two most popular sources of such software.

Incorrect. The true power is both the CLI and the UI/UX for the ecosystem of powerful professional applications to consumer applications that Linux will never have. All of this is based upon the world class application frameworks that Linux will never have.
 
Why does it have to be 5 Units?

Shouldn't need to be more than 3 Units, the max height of PCIe cards less than 130mm!

Also why does the CPU cooler have to be such a huge cube (150x150x150mm)?

GPU cards are often 200W+, much higher wattage than a CPU, and those coolers are only 40mm high.

When encoding video on the CPU, the fan is very much audible, yet I cannot hear the GPU fan cooler when encoding on the GPU.

So why are they not making CPU coolers in a form factor similar to GPU's??
All they are is like a Noctua N15 with the heat pipe/fins horizontally inline with the block instead of bent up vertically, loads of room on a motherboard to do this.
 
Dear Apple, please expedite the addition of W5700X BTO options.

I believe Apple will be holding off on this option seeing as now AMD has SKUs registered with the European Regulators and US Regulators for the following products:

RX 5950XT, RX 5950, and RX 5800XT.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiplet based GPGPUs are on the horizon. Akin to the Zen chiplet architecture from EPYC down to Threadripper and also Ryzen AMD has been working on Chiplet designs for GPUs.

The professional derived W series for workstations will arrive soon after.

 
I believe Apple will be holding off on this option seeing as now AMD has SKUs registered with the European Regulators and US Regulators for the following products:

RX 5950XT, RX 5950, and RX 5800XT.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiplet based GPGPUs are on the horizon. Akin to the Zen chiplet architecture from EPYC down to Threadripper and also Ryzen AMD has been working on Chiplet designs for GPUs.

The professional derived W series for workstations will arrive soon after.

Navi RX RX5800/5900/5950XT are at least six months away from shipping out in AIB form. Past Regulatory filings have been shown many months prior to launch. Apple doesn’t just change things up like that, it’s not in their nature.
 
No reason for the rack mounted version to have a GPU in it by default. Could remove it and cut the price a little, though even without cutting the price, having the internal space cleared out of the factory might even be nice to some costumers.

My sense is that most racked Mac Pros will be used for:
- Render farms
- AI/ML
- Mobile photo/video capture rigs

I don't think people are going to be using them much for commodity compute servers.
 
How can an article on a rack mount Mac Pro (or a rack mount anything, for that matter) not include the number rack units it occupies?

Amazingly, unless I overlooked it, Apple’s own tech specs page doesn’t have this either. At 8.7” high, it looks like 5U, for the curious.
I agree. I dug around in the various pages and it is indeed 5U. A bit on the thick side.
 
Mac Stadium's credit card just caught on fire.

Best to wait for the 64-core AMD version.
 
I believe Apple will be holding off on this option seeing as now AMD has SKUs registered with the European Regulators and US Regulators for the following products:

RX 5950XT, RX 5950, and RX 5800XT.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiplet based GPGPUs are on the horizon. Akin to the Zen chiplet architecture from EPYC down to Threadripper and also Ryzen AMD has been working on Chiplet designs for GPUs.

The professional derived W series for workstations will arrive soon after.

Apple already lists the W5700X as “Coming Soon”. There will no doubt be additional options added mid-cycle over the next 2-3 years until the Mac Pro gets new CPUs.
 
It could be that Apple itself will be it's best customer, it sure looks like they made the Mac pro to match what they need. TV+, AI, AR, software compiling and remote desktop.
 
Something in between a MacMini and a MacPro please....
A Mini is not enough and doesn't have a PCIe slot and e Pro is too expensive.
I think the addressable market is too small to support three headless Macs. Similar to the unlikelihood of ever getting an iPad Pro mini.

I’d be a buyer for both, but I just don’t think the demand is sufficient 😢
 
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