Radeon 5770 and 5870 Upgrade Kits Posted to Apple Store

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by ventro, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. Courthold macrumors member

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    Hmm, the 5870 is only labelled as early 2009/late 2010 - is there any reason this won't work on a 2008 model (3,1) as well?

    They're specifying the memory speed on that page (e.g. Early 2009 with 1066MHz DDR3 memory) - is that because this is a requirement of some sort, or just for identification purposes?
     
  2. ventro thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Note that the requirements for the 5770 are a 2010 mac pro or higher, and the requirements for the 5870 are a 2009 mac pro or higher. What's up with that? Are us 2008 owners out of luck?
     
  3. bilbo--baggins macrumors 6502a

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    Not only that, but the 4870 hasn't reduced in price at all.
     
  4. iWolf00 macrumors member

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    I am really surprised since the ATI 5870 is not available for 2008 and disturbed since ATI 5770 is available for 2010; Does that mean Apple may stop supporting my 2009 MP's GPU next year?? I am sure there would angry 2008 model Mob.

    Amazingly, the mac pro 2010 supports 2 ATI 5770; Is that sign that MP will support SLI or Crossfire in the future? :D
     
  5. -SD- macrumors 6502

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    The UK store has the 5870 listed for £369, and the 5770 for £199. The 4870 is still £286 though.

    :apple:
     
  6. peskaa macrumors 68020

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    Grr, I want to order a 5870 but the UK store is showing as unavailable.
     
  7. iWolf00 macrumors member

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    ATI HD 5870 not available yet

    When will apple release the ATI HD 5870 upgrade? do you think its price is fair in comparison with one that work in Win?
     
  8. bilbo--baggins macrumors 6502a

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    Before these went up people seemed certain they would work on the 2008 Mac Pros. Could this still be the case, despite the Apple Store saying only for 2009 and 2010 models?
     
  9. peskaa macrumors 68020

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    Price is pretty fair to be honest. 5870s are about £330 for a stock model on average.
     
  10. smacman macrumors 6502

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    Can't wait until the 5870 is actually available (showing unavailable in Hong Kong). Not that I want it, but I am confused as to why the 5770 is for the 2010 machines only. I thought the 2009 and 2010 were essentially identical with respect to PCI 2.0 bus and power supply.
     
  11. Vylen macrumors 65816

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    It's "just" for people who want 4+ monitors.
     
  12. nanofrog macrumors G4

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    Yes. It's happened before.

    They claimed the GT120 only worked in the 2009 systems IIRC, when they did work in the 2008 (it uses EFI64), and the HD4870 was claimed it was incompatible with 2006/7 systems, when it worked in those as well (uses EBC).

    We don't know for sure yet on the PCIe version of the 5770/5870, as it's not been tested. Someone will play guinea pig... err... test it out I expect. ;)
     
  13. ventro thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Does anyone know how Apple could prevent the card from being run on a '08? Aren't they all EFI64?
     
  14. iWolf00 macrumors member

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    yea; similar to having 4 120GT; with no SLI; thanks for the input
     
  15. neiltc13 macrumors 68040

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    I will be selling mine when the 5870 is available and I bet a lot of others will be too.
     
  16. iWolf00 macrumors member

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    That is encouraging; I may consider apple's HD 5870
     
  17. nanofrog macrumors G4

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    '08 and newer MP's do use EFI64 firmware.

    Graphics cards have a separate ROM on them however, and doesn't have to be EFI64 to function (EBC is an alternative, and it allows cards to run in either EFI32 or EFI64 systems). BIOS will not work under OS X (does under Windows or Linux).
     
  18. bilbo--baggins macrumors 6502a

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    Good point - I'll keep a look out. I guess a number 2009 owners will be upgrading. I'd rather get the 5870, but if they prove to be incompatible then a used 4870 seems like a good idea. I currently have the 8800GT which is fine though I gather that many of them failed. Have many of the 4870's failed?
     
  19. iZac macrumors 68000

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    *crosses fingers for my '06*


    £370 for the 5870 is a more than i'd like, but as soon as someone confirms it to work with the '06 (wishful thinking perhaps) i'll be dusting off my credit card!
     
  20. peskaa macrumors 68020

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    Hell no ;) I'll be sticking a 5870 in my 2009 Quad, and the 4870 will go in the 2008 Octo...meaning I'll be selling a 2600XT!
     
  21. DesmoPilot macrumors 65816

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    Hahah! Hilariously over priced for a 5770. Though overpriced, the 5870 isn't too much over.
     
  22. mariusaz macrumors member

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    5870 Rom

    Someone pull the ROM and see if it's EBC NAO!!!!! (so I can buy one)
     
  23. MacsRgr8 macrumors 604

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    Keep a close eye on Barefeats
     
  24. DesmoPilot macrumors 65816

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    After his "test" of the 256MB vs 512MB VRAM in the MBPs, I can't take him seriously anymore.
     

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