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Radeon 5770 and 5870 Upgrade Kits Posted to Apple Store
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I feel the same way, iam also ready to order the 5870 and although listed you cant order, why not wait untill they had stock, and apple must have known for months that the 5870 was going to be the next new high end card so why didnt they prepare for an influx of orders and have enough stock to meet demand.
They wonder why people flash 5870,s !!!!!!! maybe a lesson to be had here apple! stock stock stock!!!!!!!
They wonder why people flash 5870,s !!!!!!! maybe a lesson to be had here apple! stock stock stock!!!!!!!
It's deliberate. Apple utilize the principles of scarcity with all their new products in order to create a demand and therefore a buzz. Currently, Apple cannot make enough iPhones, iPads or Mac Pro's. This applies equally to the 5870's albeit indirectly due to ATI being the manufacturer.
As a mass producer of expensive electronic goods, it's the most profitable way to run a business. Bloody frustrating for consumers at times though
It's deliberate. Apple utilize the principles of scarcity with all their new products in order to create a demand and therefore a buzz. Currently, Apple cannot make enough iPhones, iPads or Mac Pro's. This applies equally to the 5870's albeit indirectly due to ATI being the manufacturer.
As a mass producer of expensive electronic goods, it's the most profitable way to run a business. Bloody frustrating for consumers at times though
Well i guess i had better get used to it then lol or just build me an i7 Hackintosh, and very frustrating it is!
Depends if you have OpenGL enabled. The more vram you have the more items you can have open at one time without getting the 'too many tabs' warning.
Apple Store now shows the 5770 is available in 4-6 weeks: http://store.apple.com/us/search?find=5770&mco=MTA4MTkyMjY
No one knows yet. The ROM dumps from the new iMacs are only compatible with EFI64 machines (unlike previous ATI dumps) which isn't a good sign. We won't know for sure until new Mac Pros start shipping and people can try the cards in Mac Pro 1,1s.
No. 2008 Mac Pros use the same EFI as 2009/10 Mac Pros. All signs point to them working just fine on 2008 Mac Pros (for example, flashed cards using the iMac's ROM are already working on 2008 Mac Pros). Apple would have to manually use some special detection method on the new cards to detect what system they are being used in. This is highly unlikely though but in that worst case scenario, flashed cards already work as mentioned.
No. 2008 Mac Pros use the same EFI as 2009/10 Mac Pros. All signs point to them working just fine on 2008 Mac Pros (for example, flashed cards using the iMac's ROM are already working on 2008 Mac Pros). Apple would have to manually use some special detection method on the new cards to detect what system they are being used in. This is highly unlikely though but in that worst case scenario, flashed cards already work as mentioned.
Great news. One other question: on Apple.com it says the 5770 uses 1 auxiliary power cable and the 5870 2. For my current GT 120, it does not use an auxiliary power cable. How do we attach one to the power supply? Is it hard to do?
(I also don't think the 4870 uses an auxiliary power cable)
The plug is a 6 pin connector underneath the front fan assembly, there are 2 plugs. If the way my extra 8800 shipped is any indication the cards will come with the appropriate cables.
What seek3r said. The upgrade cards from Apple will come with the necessary cables. They can be a bit of a fiddle to plug in but not impossible. It's usually easier to plug the cables into the motherboard before you put the graphics card in so that you've got more room to maneuver.
The 4870 came with two such cables - it's a hungry card and uses about the same power as the 5870.
It's not a great sign, but not a horrible sign either... In since those cards can't be put in anything but an EFI64 machine, ATI may have just not bothered.
Really depends if ATI thinks there is a market of 1,1 users, and typically in the past it seems like they've been willing to cater to that market.
This has probably been asked before but I have two questions?
Is it reasonable to expect the power draw on these cards to be similar to the values in these Tomshardware reviews:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2422-20.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2446-15.html
If I'm only using FCS and Premier Pro, does the higher end card offer any advantages? i.e. no gaming ~~~~~ I'd like to stay as green as possible here without sacrificing rendering time.
thanks much
JohnG
Is it reasonable to expect the power draw on these cards to be similar to the values in these Tomshardware reviews:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2422-20.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2446-15.html
If I'm only using FCS and Premier Pro, does the higher end card offer any advantages? i.e. no gaming ~~~~~ I'd like to stay as green as possible here without sacrificing rendering time.
thanks much
JohnG
Yes, the cards are based on the reference design, so the numbers apply.
For FCS, yes, you'll see a significant speed boost. For Premier? If we're talking PPro CS5 you're better off with an NVidia card (sadly) so you can use the Mercury engine, which only works with an NVidia card.
It's crap, but Adobe used CUDA (NVidia only) instead of OpenCL for the Mercury engine.
Hmm I have the 2008 8 Core Mac Pro with the ATI Radeon HD 4870, running one 24" LED LCD and a 7 year old 23" CCFL LCD. As the card only has one MDP and one DVI, I can't run two MDP 24" LED's, so I researched and found the GT 120 for $149 works with the 2008 Mac Pro models, so I can keep the 4870 and add the GT 120 to power two 24" MDP LCD's and two DVI LCD's.
HOWEVER, if the ATI 5770 does work in the 2008 Mac Pro's, I can cancel the GT 120 I just ordered, sell my brand new ATI Radeon HD 4870 AND buy the 5770 and MAKE money.
Thoughts??
HOWEVER, if the ATI 5770 does work in the 2008 Mac Pro's, I can cancel the GT 120 I just ordered, sell my brand new ATI Radeon HD 4870 AND buy the 5770 and MAKE money.
Thoughts??
The Apple Radeon HD 5870 kit is EBC, so no worries.
It will work with the 2006 Mac Pro.