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Rant: 30-year Mac fanatic finally buys Windows
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I miss Windows 7...
I miss OS X, what we suffer now is something entirely different. Once stability was paramount, today we have countless emojis, lockup's & crashes. When Windows is more stable than macOS, all the red lights spin up
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I miss OS X, what we suffer now is something entirely different. Once stability was paramount, today we have countless emojis, lockup's & crashes. When Windows is more stable than macOS, all the red lights spin up
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I'm really not a fan of the Windows 10 auto-update features or spyware, but at least it runs really, really well on my machine.
It's incredibly fast (no silly animation delays), the window management and snapping makes a lot of sense, and so far it hasn't missed a beat for me.
These days, macOS just feels slow/bloated and buggy. Heck, half the time the auto-hide dock doesn't show up and don't even get me started on how poorly Safari runs.
It's a shame, really. It's as if they just don't care.
Same not a big fan of the telemetry, although much can be shutdown in W10 or killed with third party solutions. I do believe that for the likes of Cortana to be effective one must be willing to give up a level of privacy. I am equally concerned with Apple as since OS X 10.11 Apple has been increasingly capturing user data, with nothing more than vague assurances that come across as more of a time sensitive sales & marketing strategy. Ultimately those seeking higher levels of privacy/anonymity need to look to Linux and security tools to ensure the same.
Reality is Apple is predominantly a provider of mass consumer mobile products and services. The Mac is highly likely viewed as a necessary evil. Personally I believe one of the reasons we have seen such a lapse and slowdown in the Mac line up is Apple's higher management testing the response to the drawdown of the Mac. Only the highly vocal users and angered tech press likely prevented an even less attractive watered down line up than Apple currently presents today.
For a company such as Apple with it's vast resources not to be offering a cohesive line up that serves the consumer and the professional alike is poor at best, given Apple's alleged commitment to it's professional users. The current poor quality control of the MBP and flaky desktop OS little more than embarrassing, equally I doubt Apple remotely cares as long as it can maintain to ship units with ever increasing margin. Sadly Apple has become both cheap & greedy with no sigh of this trend diminishing, literally nickel & diming it's customers at every opportunity.
Windows 10 is very far from perfect, it's however fast and stable, yet remains to be a complex beast that is very unforgiving to the uninformed or even in the event of an error the experienced. I once envisaged the likes of the Surface Book 2 being the kind of hardware only Apple would be capable of designing & producing, yet we find evermore pointlessly thinner computers that only serve to reduce features and further boost Apple's profit margins.
Suffice to say I'm no longer a professional user of the platform as Apple simply does not produce a worthy product or seem remotely interested in doing any more with the desktop OS other than it being a follow up to it's mobile platform, with 80% being good enough...
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Ordered:
i7820x
RX 580 Sapphire Nitro+
Kraken x52
Meshify C
EVGA Gold+ 750
Waiting for the Christmas sale.
32GB of memory
x299 Aorus Ultra
Can't wait to get this build going.
i7820x
RX 580 Sapphire Nitro+
Kraken x52
Meshify C
EVGA Gold+ 750
Waiting for the Christmas sale.
32GB of memory
x299 Aorus Ultra
Can't wait to get this build going.
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Granted, it's not the same thing, but you can have your cake and eat it, too. Just get the hardware you want (with some limitations, just check out tonyx86) and then install macOS on it.
I've been contemplating this for a while but thus far, I've preferred Apple hardware and the resale value is tremendous, because if you get a good enough deal when you buy, you can upgrade for little to no extra cost.
I've been contemplating this for a while but thus far, I've preferred Apple hardware and the resale value is tremendous, because if you get a good enough deal when you buy, you can upgrade for little to no extra cost.
I think that unless you use an ssd both windows and Mac suffer from disk related hang ups. Linux doesn’t which is great. An ssd in Windows and Mac is great too. Use what works for you. I like the color pop of Mac speed of Linux and gaming in Windows. Why can’t I mix all three together?
Do you mind sharing some links/names on some of these things?
Using Windows again on my HTPC/Gaming machine and want to get ahead of this kind of stuff.
Thx!
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Granted, it's not the same thing, but you can have your cake and eat it, too. Just get the hardware you want (with some limitations, just check out tonyx86) and then install macOS on it.
I've been contemplating this for a while but thus far, I've preferred Apple hardware and the resale value is tremendous, because if you get a good enough deal when you buy, you can upgrade for little to no extra cost.
Superb suggestion - My 4790k based Hack runs like a dream and has been for several years now. I've mixed around with the configuration and disks and GPUs so many times I can't even count. It's so fun/refreshing to be able to honestly..
@turbineseaplane
I have heard the best thing to do when setting up a new windows 10 machine is to make sure you are not connected to the internet at all during the install.
Whether this is true or not I'm unsure of it, I heard about it on YouTube looking up vids on why people switched to Linux.
I have heard the best thing to do when setting up a new windows 10 machine is to make sure you are not connected to the internet at all during the install.
Whether this is true or not I'm unsure of it, I heard about it on YouTube looking up vids on why people switched to Linux.
Just catching up with this one try O&O Shutup 10, another is SpyBot Anti Beacon. Personally as I use Cortana I limit the data vis W10's settings. To me it's not as intrusive as some make out, likely Apple plays the same games. The big difference is Microsoft at least open about it, while Apple remains to be secretive with zero transparency.
Another trick is to set the connection to "Metered" this halts much of of W10's network related background activities and put's the user in control for all but critical updates
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Final parts list for my PC build. Everything purchased. 8 cores, 32GB Ram, 500GB SSD (had it lying around ), RX 580 for less than $2,000.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lj7JvV
Start building next week.
), RX 580 for less than $2,000. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lj7JvV
Start building next week.
Late to this thread, but these are two important points that are easy to overlook but are now very important when it comes to deciding what system to get next. Like the OP, I am a 30-year Mac fanatic, but I'll be building a Windows 10 box this year.
Yes, macOS is absolutely better than Windows, in nearly every aspect. But as the OP says, it is not four times better. It is just better. Windows 10 is perfectly fine, and when you add in all the powerful, fully customisable hardware you can run with Windows, then there is simply no reason to buy a Mac anymore.
Which is sad, but true.
Another cool thread that is a year old but still true. I should be checking this alternatives forum more often.
This should be stickied and e-mailed to Tim Cook. Although, I quite agree with mflynn that:
The Mac series are still some of the personal computers with the highest user satisfaction not to mention best sellers so I wonder if this kind of 'phasing out' should I say, behavior makes sense. Perhaps they even think that computer sales cannibalize smartphone sales to a degree, so want to delicately balance those two.
This should be stickied and e-mailed to Tim Cook. Although, I quite agree with mflynn that:
The Mac series are still some of the personal computers with the highest user satisfaction not to mention best sellers so I wonder if this kind of 'phasing out' should I say, behavior makes sense. Perhaps they even think that computer sales cannibalize smartphone sales to a degree, so want to delicately balance those two.
Apple to me seems far more needing of my endorsement, than my custom. Apple needs to offer relevant professional grade hardware that makes sense, not solely a showpiece.
Apple should stop talking and start delivering. Stop with the BS for the Starbucks & Facebook crowd, the rest will follow naturally. Get back to having three tiers for portable Mac's Ultra portable, mid stream & prosumer/professional.
Tim &, Co want to get into fashion, do us all a favour and spin the Mac off as a separate concern, managed by those that care for the platform. Absolutely sick and tired of the current trend, thinner, thinner, thinner. FFS I need a portable Mac that performs, not crushed by it's Windows counterparts.
Apple is fast becoming a joke, with "Pro" only meaning a higher price point.........
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Apple should stop talking and start delivering. Stop with the BS for the Starbucks & Facebook crowd, the rest will follow naturally. Get back to having three tiers for portable Mac's Ultra portable, mid stream & prosumer/professional.
Tim &, Co want to get into fashion, do us all a favour and spin the Mac off as a separate concern, managed by those that care for the platform. Absolutely sick and tired of the current trend, thinner, thinner, thinner. FFS I need a portable Mac that performs, not crushed by it's Windows counterparts.
Apple is fast becoming a joke, with "Pro" only meaning a higher price point.........
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Metered will not stop updates though. Even on metered Microsoft will still download updates. It’s a soon to be legal issue
Like Queen6 already said: 'Metered' will stop all but critical updates.
Yesterday I just received critical updates for the (now trending) SPECTRE and MELTDOWN chip security issues. Glad I did not miss out on those!
Why is it a soon to be a legal issue? You agreed to this when you installed Windows (that is: if you installed Windows
). Apple also updates their (i)OS with critical updates without asking you. Is that going to be a legal issue too, or am I misinterpreting something here?
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Like Queen6 already said: 'Metered' will stop all but critical updates.
Yesterday I just received critical updates for the (now trending) SPECTRE and MELTDOWN chip security issues. Glad I did not miss out on those!
Why is it a soon to be a legal issue? You agreed to this when you installed Windows (that is: if you installed Windows
I would rather think not delivering adequate updates to be more the issue. Microsoft is indeed intrusive, equally "shuttered" relatively easily, while Apple operates with zero transparency. I don't see one being worse than the other, just one is more open about it's actions.
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I just helped a friend get her printer working with her Windows-based Thinkpad. It was so pathetic, as it was merely the installation of the correct driver. It's 2018 and this is still an issue??
This type of stuff is NEVER EVER *EVER* an issue on the Mac.
This type of stuff is NEVER EVER *EVER* an issue on the Mac.
Not sure about that. I have a wireless Brother laser printer and I was on the phone to Brother support for two hours trying to get it to work with my Mac mini.
Hasn't been an issue on the two Win10 machines in our house. One of them is 7 years old.
Haven't used Widows much since 94.
Had very little trouble installing a 2nd internal SSD, getting network running or sharing a printer.
Two worst things are remembering to close an App via the window X, and the backwards cmd and ctl keys, or is it opt?
Perfectly capable modern OS.
Cortana curb stomps Siri!
Had very little trouble installing a 2nd internal SSD, getting network running or sharing a printer.
Two worst things are remembering to close an App via the window X, and the backwards cmd and ctl keys, or is it opt?
Perfectly capable modern OS.
Cortana curb stomps Siri!
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I appreciate the three most recent comments.
Granted, the person is quite computer illiterate and many other people would not have had a problem like that. She is experiencing constant issues with her Windows 7 machine and a clean install is way overdue in her case.
My own biggest issue is with privacy and the fact that any version of Windows seems to be full of security holes.
That said, I don't trust Apple as far as I can throw the creepy new "spaceship" campus. I just think Apple is the lesser of the two evils (not sure about Linux) and I have come accustomed to the "it just works", the reliability and clean interface.
As for Cortana vs. Siri, I have no opinion, as I don't use Siri on my Mac. Alexa, Cortana, Siri, etc., are spy schemes as far as I'm concerned, and again, I am not under the illusion that Apple doesn't absolutely spy on its users big time as well.
I wouldn't mind building my own Hackintosh, however, but how do you build a laptop Hackintosh?
Granted, the person is quite computer illiterate and many other people would not have had a problem like that. She is experiencing constant issues with her Windows 7 machine and a clean install is way overdue in her case.
My own biggest issue is with privacy and the fact that any version of Windows seems to be full of security holes.
That said, I don't trust Apple as far as I can throw the creepy new "spaceship" campus. I just think Apple is the lesser of the two evils (not sure about Linux) and I have come accustomed to the "it just works", the reliability and clean interface.
As for Cortana vs. Siri, I have no opinion, as I don't use Siri on my Mac. Alexa, Cortana, Siri, etc., are spy schemes as far as I'm concerned, and again, I am not under the illusion that Apple doesn't absolutely spy on its users big time as well.
I wouldn't mind building my own Hackintosh, however, but how do you build a laptop Hackintosh?