rant on women's clothing

[Rhosfelt]

American Eagle seems to be okay, but I do know what you are talking about, and to be honest I don't really like it...(im 18 so I have no idea what is wrong with me) but I like when girls dress up a bit more. However, sweats are fine I don't expect them to dress up every day but I definitely don't want to see undies unless they are just for me


btw

worst thing ever, I won't even be nice if you look like that.

 

[Roger1]

Nothing like seeing a pleasantly plump lady wearing spandex.

Looks like bread dough rising over the sides of bowl.

It's called a muffin top. As for tramp stamps, I'd like the wifey to get one

No, she's not a tramp. I just think they look cool.

I have to agree about young mens clothing. I think its silly when some guy is walking around grabbing his crotch because that's the only way his pant will stay up. Makes me think they're playing with themselves.

 

[Abstract]

There's nothing wrong with skimpy clothing. It's what's on the inside that counts

You mean inside those clothes? Oh yeah, definitely agree....


Um, I like staring if a hot girl dresses really skimpy, but I'd never date someone like that, or even be friends with her. It's not that I'm snobby, but if you are a girl who dresses like that, her and I probably think and view such things very differently anyway, so we're not likely to be friends. How you dress and view your clothes does reflect your personality somewhat.

I have to agree about young mens clothing. I think its silly when some guy is walking around grabbing his crotch because that's the only way his pant will stay up. Makes me think they're playing with themselves.

I don't know how old you and harcosparky are, but big clothes was "out" a while ago.

Now you see the opposite.....guys wearing really tight, skinny jeans that don't look cool, or comfortable.

Fear not, we know!

So the webcam you put in her room is working well, I presume?

 

[ham_man]

As for the hot-girl look? Fine with me, very entertaining and appreciated. Sometimes I want the clap.

Fixed it for you

 

[cycocelica]

yeah but women look so good in them.

 

[GoCubsGo]

Women wear low rise pants so they can publicly display their " tramp stamp ".

You know those hideous looking tattoos on their lower back!!!

I thank God neither of my daughters want to dress like that, but then again they have no 'tramp stamps' to show off.

Must be they had a good upbringing, I dunno!

Don't even get me started on tramp stamps and the whores who display them with pride! Glad you raised better ladies.

Nothing like seeing a pleasantly plump lady wearing spandex.

Looks like bread dough rising over the sides of bowl.

Here's my philosophy. There is nothing pleasant about polka Dots, spandex, and vertical strips on a large woman. I was given a blouse from banana republic once, despite it being too small it was polka dots. I said, "I do not wear anything rounder than me."

To the OP...it is unfortunate, but in many cases unless jeans and standard t-shirts are your thing it is difficult to find decent clothes that cover enough of you in the malls. It is possible though. I would hit up Ann Taylor. Trendy but sophisticated.

 

[Iscariot]

Trendy but sophisticated.

Baby, that's how I like it.

 

[Applespider]

The high-waist is back according to the catwalks. Unfortunately, while it gives stick-insect models curves, it makes normal women look like they've got enormous arses which means that with any luck it won't really take off - then again, skinny jeans did.

Low-rise aren't just for showing off tramp stamps - which is harsh, I've seen some gorgeous tattoos and times they are a-changing, several of them are on the skin of very successful lawyers and accountants.

Low-rises immensely useful if you're short-waisted since it allows you more chance of having a figure. Yes, they still have to fit properly - no muffins or so baggy they fall off but they have an important place even in the not-so-skimpy wardrobes.

I think perhaps it's just time to change the stores you shop at. If youthful fashion is to let it all hang out, then move up to the next level of stores. I'm not entirely familiar with US brands but I do like places like Banana Republic and J Crew when I'm shopping out there.

 

[Roger1]

I don't know how old you and harcosparky are, but big clothes was "out" a while ago.

Now you see the opposite.....guys wearing really tight, skinny jeans that don't look cool, or comfortable.

Really? I work in the Ann Arbor area, and saggy pants are definitely still being worn. BTW, whats a harcosparky? You young 'uns with your computers and new fangled language confuse me sometime. Anyway, time to go print up some emails.

 

[harcosparky]

You mean inside those clothes? Oh yeah, definitely agree....


Um, I like staring if a hot girl dresses really skimpy, but I'd never date someone like that, or even be friends with her. It's not that I'm snobby, but if you are a girl who dresses like that, her and I probably think and view such things very differently anyway, so we're not likely to be friends. How you dress and view your clothes does reflect your personality somewhat.




I don't know how old you and harcosparky are, but big clothes was "out" a while ago.

Now you see the opposite.....guys wearing really tight, skinny jeans that don't look cool, or comfortable.


So the webcam you put in her room is working well, I presume?

I am old enough to have common sense and know what decency is, and to impart that knowledge on my children. I as a parent am responsible for having children and also for what those children do, and how they act.

How the hell can a parent NOT know what their children are wearing to school? The comment about the webcam, I guess was some weak attempt at humor, but it wasn't really funny.

We, the wife and I are parents and .... OH MY GOD ... we are INVOLVED in the lives of our children. We actually know what they wear, where they go, and for the most part who they hang out with. I know that sounds harsh, but I don't give a damn!!! Most of todays social ill can be traced to parents who just don't care.

{ SEGWAY }

Here is another perspective and perhaps a question for the young women who dress in a manner that leaves NOTHING to the imagination .....

When you go out in public, your boobs and butt all but hanging out for everyone to see ... do you get upset when an older man stares at you?

Is he a pervert desiring to do nasty things with you? Or is he a man who wonders why kind of parent would let their kids run around looking like that.

Why the hell do you dress like that and go out in public if not to draw attention to yourself. You cannot select who will look at you, but you can select the clothing you wear and the clothing you choose will indirectly select who looks at you.

What I laugh at are the girls who have thier butts hanging out and they are constantly pulling down their tops in attempt to cover up. I so want to walk up to them and tell them ......

" ask your mom to buy you clothes that fit, and stop giving you your little sisters things to wear. "

Brings me to this quote ....

" what kind of society have we become where we cannot afford to but correct fitting clothing for out children. We have boys running around in their fathers pants ( saggy clothing ), and teenage girls running around in their baby sisters clothing "

 

[Applespider]

Here is another perspective and perhaps a question for the young women who dress in a manner that leaves NOTHING to the imagination .....

When you go out in public, your boobs and butt all but hanging out for everyone to see ... do you get upset when an older man stares at you?

What kind of ages are you thinking of here to class as 'young'? I disagree with kids and those under 18 being sexualised with inappropriate adult clothing (Playboy logos on child's clothing etc) but IMO, adult women should be allowed to wear what they like.

 

[harcosparky]

What kind of ages are you thinking of here to class as 'young'? I disagree with kids and those under 18 being sexualised with inappropriate adult clothing (Playboy logos on child's clothing etc) but IMO, adult women should be allowed to wear what they like.

If you read the question you will see that age is not an issue.

If a woman of any age goes out in public, wearing clothing that leave nothing to the imagination, is she justified at getting upset when people stare at her?

Young could be 19, 25, 32.

Yes any woman over 18 can wear whatever she likes, but if she doesn't like the attention/response that her clothing draws to her than she is wearing the wrong kind of clothing for her.

 

[devilot]

How the hell can a parent NOT know what their children are wearing to school?

Because children are little humans. They're individuals, and they're quite capable of a lot. Do you also check what they're wearing underneath? Do you check their bags? Do you check their school lockers? Do you show up unexpectedly? If not... they could be wearing a ton of things you wouldn't approve of.

Why the hell do you dress like that and go out in public if not to draw attention to yourself. You cannot select who will look at you, but you can select the clothing you wear and the clothing you choose will indirectly select who looks at you.

So what does it mean if you're dressed in bummy sweats and a stranger verbally assaults you and places his hand on your thigh on a public train? You know those black baggy sweats... Ohhhhh baby! I was surely "asking for it."

What I laugh at are the girls who have thier butts hanging out and they are constantly pulling down their tops in attempt to cover up.

Then go into stores and pick out decent looking jeans/ pants. Like it or not, if something becomes the trend, it becomes nearly impossible to find anything remotely "cool" or nice-looking otherwise in stores (this is more for the "juniors" crowd versus the "misses" -- if you shop American women's and young women's clothing, you'll know what I'm referring to).

 

[Markleshark]

Meh, I don't complain about whats available, just about the fact that it's available.

Getting a little tired of the ratio of Men's clothing to Women's clothing on the high street these days.

 

[Roger1]

Then go into stores and pick out decent looking jeans/ pants. Like it or not, if something becomes the trend, it becomes nearly impossible to find anything remotely "cool" or nice-looking otherwise in stores (this is more for the "juniors" crowd versus the "misses" -- if you shop American women's and young women's clothing, you'll know what I'm referring to).

Ugh. I know what you mean. A couple of years ago, I wanted to buy my wife an outfit for exercising in. Nothing fancy, just some shorts and a matching top. So I was pointed to the "spandex" section. Not even Under Armour, which serves a function, just plain old spandex. It took me a while to find an appropriate outfit for her.

BTW: Sorry harcosparky, I thought you were a phrase and not a person. Guess I need to pay more attention.

 

[Applespider]

If a woman of any age goes out in public, wearing clothing that leave nothing to the imagination, is she justified at getting upset when people stare at her?

I'm sorry but I've missed the post where a woman said that she got upset from being stared at when wearing something revealing. There are lots from men saying they're outraged. And there are several from women discussing where to buy more elegant clothes.

But women of any age get used to guys staring at them even when they're quite decently attired. I wear a skirt that is nowhere close to be knicker-skimming with a pair of boots and get whistled at. I wear a V-neck top because it suits my body-shape but find men addressing my breasts. Since, I'll quite happily wear those outfits to work in an office since they're not in the least 'skimpy or revealing', I'd say it's those guys' attitudes that really need to change.

I think we can all agree that there are certain fashions that some of us like to wear or don't. But if someone knows and is comfortable with the image they're projecting, I can't see a problem with it.

 

[sycho]

I'd just like to say I have no problem with women's clothing... In fact, I am wearing pair of girls jeans that make me super hot.

 

[furcalchick]

Then go into stores and pick out decent looking jeans/ pants. Like it or not, if something becomes the trend, it becomes nearly impossible to find anything remotely "cool" or nice-looking otherwise in stores (this is more for the "juniors" crowd versus the "misses" -- if you shop American women's and young women's clothing, you'll know what I'm referring to).

and currently, the trend is to let it all show apparently. it's just annoying that young women who want to dress classy and modest are forced into wearing 'mom jeans' and the type because all the paris hilton wannabees want to wear the skimpy clothing. i usually shop old navy though (but i haven't gotten new clothes for a while).

 

[devilot]

Ugh. I know what you mean. A couple of years ago, I wanted to buy my wife an outfit for exercising in... It took me a while to find an appropriate outfit for her.

*curtseys* It ain't so easy. One thing to talk the talk, another to walk the walk.

But women of any age get used to guys staring at them even when they're quite decently attired... I'd say it's those guys' attitudes that really need to change.

I would say I love you, but that'd be redundant.

I think we can all agree that there are certain fashions that some of us like to wear or don't. But if someone knows and is comfortable with the image they're projecting, I can't see a problem with it.

Yup. Sometimes, it is fun to wear something a bit risqué. But it's done on our own terms (hopefully) and with full knowledge that some eyes might be drawn to us.

But I feel compelled to make it abundantly clear-- attracting eyes is one thing, but skimpy clothing does NOT in ANY WAY equate an invitation to touch, molest, verbally assault.

it's just annoying that young women who want to dress classy and modest are forced into wearing 'mom jeans' and the type because all the paris hilton wannabees want to wear the skimpy clothing. i usually shop old navy though (but i haven't gotten new clothes for a while).

That's something you have to consider, I'm sorry, but in shopping for clothes, you have to consider the target market of a given store. Old Navy? Let's face it, it's a cheaper manufacturer that makes cheaper clothing (and not all that cheap at full MSRP) geared towards much younger and more casual folks.

Want nicer things with more choices? Gotta spend a bit more. Even GAP (a sibling company of Old Navy > GAP> Banana) offers more cuts and waists than ON. Will it cost more? Most likely. But unfortunately, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

I agree with previous posters, check out Gap, Banana, J Crew, Ann Taylor for less revealing styles.

 

[harcosparky]

Because children are little humans. They're individuals, and they're quite capable of a lot. Do you also check what they're wearing underneath? Do you check their bags? Do you check their school lockers? Do you show up unexpectedly? If not... they could be wearing a ton of things you wouldn't approve of.

Check what they wear underneath? I guess when the wife does all the laundry, she would see what they wear ... don't ya think?

Yes we have checked their backpacks/bags, both before they leave for school and when they come home. My son was known to sneak prohibited electronics into school. ( iPod / Gameboy / Cell Phone ) Because of these random checks he now leaves those items on his desk in plain view.

Actually we do from time to time, stop in the schools unannounced to see what is going on and to check lockers.

I think it is a parents responsibility to set standards of behavior, and to take actions necessary to enforce those standards.

So what does it mean if you're dressed in bummy sweats and a stranger verbally assaults you and places his hand on your thigh on a public train? You know those black baggy sweats... Ohhhhh baby! I was surely "asking for it."

Let's keep in mind what I have said, IF you dress with almost all exposed you will attract attention you may not desire. Criminal assaults can and will happen regardless of dress, I'd say 'situation' is more a determing factor in criminal assaults than clothing, but that is a topic for a separate discussion. ( How Not To Become A Crime Victim )

You cannot deny/argue that what you wear is what people see, and we all make initial judgements based on what we see.

If you dress like a lady, you can be expected to be treated like a lady.
If you dress like a clown, expect people to respond to you as a clown.

Then go into stores and pick out decent looking jeans/ pants. Like it or not, if something becomes the trend, it becomes nearly impossible to find anything remotely "cool" or nice-looking otherwise in stores (this is more for the "juniors" crowd versus the "misses" -- if you shop American women's and young women's clothing, you'll know what I'm referring to).

Yes it is difficult to find decent clothing in the stores form time to time. Thank god it is not impossible. My wife takes my daughter clothes shopping, and the always both seem to be able to come home happy.

 

[harcosparky]

Yup. Sometimes, it is fun to wear something a bit risqué. But it's done on our own terms (hopefully) and with full knowledge that some eyes might be drawn to us.

But I feel compelled to make it abundantly clear-- attracting eyes is one thing, but skimpy clothing does NOT in ANY WAY equate an invitation to touch, molest, verbally assault.

I agree 100% .... now we have a common ground to work from.

Now let's get on to appropriate locations for ' risque' clothing?

I dont think anyone said wearing skimpy clothing is an invitation for criminal behavior ... at least it was not my intent to imply that.

 

[RugoseCone]

The only guys that show the crack are plumbers.

Apparently you've been spared the dreaded "Carpenter's Crack". I do a lot of work with a cabinet-shop and there's unfortunately a whole lot of crck on display there.

 

[jaydub]

I think the message tends to get carried away when the concept of men looking at decently attired or scantily clad women comes up. Save for the ethically devoid men out there, there's a huge difference between a glance and some physical advance.

I have to admit that it frustrates me that men are frequently portrayed as these horny animals who stare at any girl whose cleavage is showing. I think responsibility lies in both parties: the man who is wiling to look and the woman who is willing to display. If there are bodily parts which are commonly associated with arousal (there aren't topless clubs for nothing), then it's reasonable that a man will look if they're halfway out of one's shirt.

There's obviously an issue of disrespect, but as visual as people are, I think both genders objectify one another.

 

[Applespider]

Let's keep in mind what I have said, IF you dress with almost all exposed you will attract attention you may not desire.

Although in many ways, that's a sad reflection on today's society since as has also been said, an invitation to look (which women may expect when dressing in a summer top or shorts) is not the same as having to deflect mucky paws or lewd comments.

And I guess we must walk around different streets, because although I do see girls in short skirts and/or shoestring tops, I don't think I've ever seen an adult woman who was almost all exposed; aside perhaps from those A-list celebs who go out in designer dresses made from safetypins...

If you dress like a lady, you can be expected to be treated like a lady. If you dress like a clown, expect people to respond to you as a clown.

I'm sorry but I always expect to be treated as a lady regardless of whether I'm in a clown suit for a fancy dress party, an evening dress, an office suit, jogging sweats, jeans or a mini-skirt. I act like a lady so I expect to be treated as one.

 

[haiggy]

You could always look for a pair of mom jeans

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