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I for one am glad that all 4 people worldwide who care about/will use this will finally get what they’ve been eagerly waiting instead of just installing an alternative messaging app like the rest of us
I think most people will use it w/o even noticing just that it works better now when they chat with people using Samsung or Pixel phones.
 
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Did Craig mention about the message color from RCS? please keep it green.
There is a screenshot on Apple's site which show them as green.

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Yikes. I hope you wore something comfortable for that stretch. What I said was that everything you're describing as negative about RCS is exactly the same as SMS.
Thanks for admitting you brought up SMS? You said you quoted my messages but where I did bring up SMS in those quoted messages? I didn't. You did. And yet you made it sound like I'm suggesting SMS should be the solution. SMS isn't the solution. It's clear you're trying to dig yourself out of this but it's not working.

Anyways, moving on.
 
RCS is like SMS or MMS before, it is a service offered by the carriers.
This is obvious. My point is that our day-to-day communications should not be reliant on these paid carriers

We should be locked into something that is free, cross platform, simple, and reliable/secure like Telegram. iMessage doesn't circle all of that but is way better than being locked into carriers for day to day communication.
 
Thanks for admitting you brought up SMS? You said you quoted my messages but where I did bring up SMS in those quoted messages? I didn't. You did. And yet you made it sound like I'm suggesting SMS should be the solution. SMS isn't the solution. It's clear you're trying to dig yourself out of this but it's not working.

Anyways, moving on.
This discussion is going in circles. What would you rather have Apple implement? Isn't this more of an Android problem and Apple simply trying to increase compatibility with them?
 
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extreme confusion for one.
Fortunately not everybody is as confused as you appear to be.

you listed two examples that involves carriers. you are relying on those carriers to be able to communicate. and you're asking where is the lock in?
Yup, confusion confirmed. You don’t even understand what lock-in means.

you're tied to the carrier stated to talk. in other words, if you did not have a carrier, you would not be able to use RCS. that is locked in to the carrier. see how that works? I can't explain it any simpler.
Actually I’m almost certain you’re just saying this stuff facetiously and simply trolling. And if you’re not, then it makes me happy that your upset by this news. 🙂
 
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wrong. I fully understand the protocol. I'm willing to bet you didn't even read the entire universal profile spec did you
You have spent months making the same statements that does not hold up to scrutiny. RCS is confusing? well it is currently being used by a billion people. Where is this confusion you are talking about. I have been in these discussions and most people are just wondering when it will be enabled for their devices or when will the carriers finish transitioning to Jibe.

Like i told you in the previous thread, all confusions you are seeing are in your head and is not a reality today or the last 5 years of the slow painful transition of RCS from carrier networks to Jibe.
 
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you're tied to the carrier stated to talk. in other words, if you did not have a carrier, you would not be able to use RCS. that is locked in to the carrier. see how that works? I can't explain it any simpler.
I really don't understand what you are trying to claim, there's no "carrier lock in". You only need a phone number(or a Sim card) and RCS works with Wi-Fi only as well. Now who owns a phone and doesn't have a phone number?
 
you listed two examples that involves carriers. you are relying on those carriers to be able to communicate. and you're asking where is the lock in?
… RCS is a global standard already supported by almost every single carrier and phone make OTHER than Apple until now, so again, where is the lock in other than I need a phone to use it and the person I’m messaging needs a phone to receive it?
 
Not really though. The button for whatever is unsupported will just be hidden / grayed out, just like the video chat option is in SMS chats. It's not any bit more confusing than SMS.
nope. it's literally more confusing.

because that button could be disabled for more than one reason.
- a group chat that added an RCS person that doesn't support video chat
- you traveled to a different country and use a different carrier
- you could be in a different country but also use the same carrier, but that carrier opted to disable video chat for roaming

a video button being disabled for a green bubble SMS person on iMessage is just... basically one reason: they don't have iMessage.
 
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This discussion is going in circles. What would you rather have Apple implement?
What's a better solution? I rather have Apple bring iMessage to Windows/Android. You have a consistent feature availability across many devices and works globally.

Ultimately, moving to Telegram would be the best solution for most customers.
 
its either that or iMessage is cracked and scrambled for anyone to use, courtesy of senators and the EU.
Let them try. Apple caves but it's not going to be cracked.

Cannot imagine why the EU cares about what text messaging is done and then randomly favors Googles newest baby. We already have cross platform apps like WhatsApp that are great.
 
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