RCS Coming to Messages in iOS 18 for Improved Texts With Android Users

[truthsteve]

It is clear you are not well informed about what you are talking about.

agree to disagree.

don't make accusations you can't back up. I'm moving on.

 

[Hails09]

iMessage is equally terrible, so why not RCS?

Because he is trying to be controversial in his approach

 

[SMH4KIDIOT]

This discussion is going in circles. What would you rather have Apple implement? Isn't this more of an Android problem and Apple simply trying to increase compatibility with them?

It is an Apple problem. Would you not like to receive high quality pictures from people who don't use iMessage? Also, iMessages deprecates to SMS when iMessage fails, I would rather it deprecate to RCS before SMS honestly if they would prioritize messaging that way on iOS 18.

 

[truthsteve]

there's no "carrier lock in". You only need a phone number(or a Sim card)

you're locked in to using a carrier for RCS. why is everyone so confused about the statement?

you're locked into using a carrier. the moment you stop paying a carrier, you cannot use RCS.

a SIM card is using a carrier.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

nope. it's literally more confusing.

because that button could be disabled for more than one reason.
- a group chat that added an RCS person that doesn't support video chat
- you traveled to a different country and use a different carrier
- you could be in a different country but also use the same carrier, but that carrier opted to disable video chat for roaming

a video button being disabled for a green bubble SMS person on iMessage is just... basically one reason: they don't have iMessage.

That's less confusing than the alternative. I try to FaceTime someone that's abroad and you know what happens? It rings, and rings and rings until it fails to connect.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

you're locked in to using a carrier for RCS. why is everyone so confused about the statement?

you're locked into using a carrier. the moment you stop paying a carrier, you cannot use RCS.

a SIM card is using a carrier.

This is also true of telegram. You need a carrier number to sign up.

 

[spazzcat]

you're locked in to using a carrier for RCS. why is everyone so confused about the statement?

you're locked into using a carrier. the moment you stop paying a carrier, you cannot use RCS.

a SIM card is using a carrier.

You also can't make a phone call or send SMS messages if you cancel your cell service, what is the point?

 

[truthsteve]

where is the lock in other than I need a phone

and need a carrier to use RCS.

 

[blazerunner]

Hey iPhone users;

Welcome to the 21st Century.

 

[spazzcat]

and need a carrier to use RCS.

Ok? That isn't a big deal everyone has one.

 

[truthsteve]

That's less confusing than the alternative. I try to FaceTime someone that's abroad and you know what happens? It rings, and rings and rings until it fails to connect.

sounds like a connection issue which exists with RCS. how is that less confusing?

 

[tehabe]

I don’t want it on my phone. That’s the problem.

Idk why rcs and lagdroid fans seem to have issue with the fact many of us don’t want this near our phones. But hopefully this stops the whining and keeps iMessage on iPhone.

Mine will be turned off.

Did you also turn of SMS and phone calls?

 

[vipergts2207]

So, let's all use Signal!

“No let’s all use WhatsApp. No wait, let’s all use Snapchat.”

And therein lies the problem with the asinine suggestion to use Telegram. It requires other users to have it. How many people have Telegram versus how many people have a cell carrier.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

I think it's plain to see that some users here are enjoying arguing in circles. I will close out my argument by saying that we've not yet seen how Apple has chosen to implement RCS (did they build a hub, using the carrier's, etc), so we have that to look out for.

This is a net positive for communication in general. It's good to have options, that much is undeniable.

 

[TLuc]

more unknowns that a user needs to learn per carrier that they signed up for. not all carriers supporting RCS universal profile support the same exact features which leads to a disconnect on what features are available when you talk to XYZ person.

Users don't need to learn anything and didn't apple already state what features it will support?

 

[mashdots]

This is obvious. My point is that our day-to-day communications should not be reliant on these paid carriers

We should be locked into something that is free, cross platform, simple, and reliable/secure like Telegram. iMessage doesn't circle all of that but is way better than being locked into carriers for day to day communication.

Just reading through the thread . . . i want to understand - you're upset because this is a feature that requires a cellular carrier?

Ah never mind got to the end. I think I hear what you're saying. But I don't think not implementing RCS is really the best route. And since iMessage is natively an Apple technology (thus a feature of owning an apple product), I can't imagine seeing that be a universal standard anytime soon.

I am curious to know what fragmentation is going to look like in group settings.

 

[truthsteve]

This is also true of telegram.

I never said it wasn't.

You can use a free GV number (which doesn't support RCS last I checked) or use Fragment for a no-sim sign up on Telegram.

 

[truthsteve]

You also can't make a phone call or send SMS messages if you cancel your cell service, what is the point?

who said SMS is the solution? I didn't.

 

[truthsteve]

Ok? That isn't a big deal everyone has one.

until you don't

example: traveling to a new country like Japan using a shared mobile hotspot router.

 

[truthsteve]

Users don't need to learn anything and didn't apple already state what features it will support?

you mean users need to learn what RCS features Apple is going to support?

 

[TLuc]

Plenty of ppl. My friends son has an iPhone that has no actual phone number or service attached.

Plenty of people = one small child 🤣

 

[spazzcat]

until you don't

example: traveling to a new country like Japan using a shared mobile hotspot router.

Or just get an esim for a carrier that is in Japan.

 

[scorpio vega]

But what's the difference if you, self admittedly, don't talk to Android users? I genuinely do not understand the logic here.

I don't use SMS either, but I'm not looking for a switch to turn it off or cursing Tim for giving us RCS.

Because I have no need for it and I don’t want it on my phone.

 

[truthsteve]

you're upset

nope.

and better option is to force Apple to implement iMessage for Android/Windows.

even better option is to get users to use a third party service like Telegram.

 

[scorpio vega]

Plenty of people = one small child 🤣

It may be difficult but let’s use a little common sense.

When I was a broke college kid, I also did the same.