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The iPhone 5 is the CHIT!

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Well I read it and facepalmed..."reversible dock" listed as one of your BIG Hardware improvement? LOL

I know right?

Better Earphones? Better than the crappy ones that come with it...super. That's a HUGE improvement in the phone?

Wideband/HD Audio? Great....if you live in the UK maybe. Carriers in the US already said they aren't going to support that.

Smaller sim? Who the heck cares? I never see it. Never know it's even there. How can that be considered a HUGE improvement?
 
Do you guys think the A6 is really twice as fast? I mean doesn't it contradict Moore's law this day in age? I mean companies like Intel, AMD, and Texas Instruments have faced the limitation barrier of current gen processors and struggle to improve performance year in and year out. Is it likely that Apple out of no-where can out manufacture these tried and tested companies? I mean they went from A5/A5x to A6 in a year and claim 2x the performance over the A5 in processing capability? (A5X is on par with A5 on this metric, but has better graphical performance) I guess we won't know till someone tears down the phone and puts it through the performance mill....
 
Compose a message, then add an attachment. Tell me when it's done. PDF as an example.

Maybe you missed the part where I said that you can attach an image (or video) in iOS 6.

http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/#mail

It is stretched from the 3:2 aspect ratio. The amount of usable space is diminished by stretching it in only one dimension.

The amount of useable space was not diminished in any way.

Correct, except for the fact that I didn't belittle your opinion or act like it was invalid.

I didn't belittle your opinion. I called your use of the word "stretch" doublespeak. Which it was.

But you did belittle mine when you said "It's probably about right for kids and girls, though."

If you're one of the people that was wishing all along for a tall iPhone, that's great.

Nope, I'm one of those people that don't think screen size is more important that the rest of the package.

I'm guessing, though, that you would praise no matter what came out as the right way to go.

And now you are calling me a fanboy.

Hundreds of millions?? That might be a bit of an exaggeration. The numbers I've seen as of August are 85 million total iPhones sold...so figure about half are still in circulation and of those several are repeat buyers.

Not even close. 245 million iPhones were sold as of June 30, 2012. And most of them are still in use according to Apple. Just because there are repeat buyers, does not mean the old phone are abandoned.

And you have to ask yourself if you really think the iPhone wouldn't have sold just as many if it had a 4.3 inch screen from the beginning. I bet it would have. I don't think it's that people have a preference for a 3.5 inch screen...it's just that has been the only option.

I don't think that at all. I think the screen size is "about right" in that hundreds of millions of people were happy with their purchase. That does not mean they couldn't be happy at a different size as well.

You might have been thinking of Android, which has sold around 250 million units to date. Most of those have larger screens...those people must be crazy!

Again, not even close. Android is well over 400 million units. And I bet you don't have any stats on how many of those units are over 4". Or any controls for whether they were purchased for the larger screen or some other factor.

Not crazy at all to like larger screens... despite your strawman.
 
Do you guys think the A6 is really twice as fast? I mean doesn't it contradict Moore's law this day in age? I mean companies like Intel, AMD, and Texas Instruments have faced the limitation barrier of current gen processors and struggle to improve performance year in and year out. Is it likely that Apple out of no-where can out manufacture these tried and tested companies? I mean they went from A5/A5x to A6 in a year and claim 2x the performance over the A5 in processing capability? (A5X is on par with A5 on this metric, but has better graphical performance) I guess we won't know till someone tears down the phone and puts it through the performance mill....

Moore's law simply states that the number of number of transistors will double approximately every 2 years. It doesn't say anything about performance.
 
The iPhone 5 resembles the 4S square design and because most "well informed" folks are only dumb enough to care about CPU core numbers and RAM and marginal screen size bump, yeah, there's little difference from 4S. Exactly the folks the Samsung ads are trying to target

Truth is iPhone 5 is a new benchmark: one of the thinnest and fastest smartphones on the market. Small and fast usually don't go together in electronics and that by itself is a HUGE feat. More space = less constraints. The in cell touch itself is amazing, it alone improving the design in 3 areas: thinner, better color, and better battery due to increased light transmission. In regards to camera, it doesn't matter how good your elements are if you have a low optical quality "filter/protector"...same as screwing on a cheap filter on a quality camera lens. The sapphire crystal protector is the same used to protect the screen on a Leica M9P
 
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It's definitely one of those subtle improvements that people glance over on paper, but I think a lot of people will love the reversibility aspect daily.

I agree, I literally have this issue every night when I charge my iphone. I have to wake the phone to see which way to put the charger in. I have been really looking forward to some sort of reversable charger.

BUT

It was also one of the reasons I shied away from the 5 this time around, as I so many accessories that use the dock connector. I will wait a year untill replacement accessories are widely availible, and then buy into the new design.
 
Display Improvements
4" Screen I'm perfectly happy with 3.5"
In-cell touch What?
44% greater color saturation I'm happy with the current screen colour, as are most people.
Full sRGB support Not sure what this is?
Higher brightness Current brightness is fine.
Less glare Glare doesn't affect me and I doubt it affects others.

Performance Improvements
2x CPU iPhone 4 is fast enough
2x GPU Current graphics processor is good enough IMO
Better battery life I doubt it, let's see what happens in real life.

Enclosure Improvements
20% Lighter Who cares?
18% Thinner As above.
Increased durability How exactly?

Wireless Improvements
LTE Good improvement but not worth £529
DC-HSDPA Unsure what this is.
Dual band 802.11n As above.

Camera/Video Improvements
Sapphire Crystal (more durable) Don't understand this.
40% faster capture speed Current camera is fine.
Better low-light performance How much better?
Improved noise-reduction
720p HD Facetime camera Current camera is fine.
Improved video stabilization Hmmm.
Still photos while recording video Pointless feature.
A6 post processing of photos Won't change much.

Audio Improvements
Better Earphones Nothing to do with iPhone 5 itself.
Three microphones What does this improve?
5 magnet speakers Unsure what this improves?

2-way noice cancelling earpiece As above.
Wideband/HD Audio HD audio? How does that work?

Connectivity Improvements
80% smaller dock connector Nothing wrong with the current dock.
Reversible dock connector What does this improve?

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All the above really shows me is that a lot of the new features are very minimal and hardly improve anything of any real significance. The only feature I actually think is a good improvement is the LTE.

The iPhone 5 is obviously the "best iPhone ever". But is it really worth the money for a lot of people? Certainly not for me.

I'm sticking with my iPhone 4 and until something really game changing comes out I'll be very happy with what I've got.

I can play this game too!

I don't know what Android is, so I won't look into it.

I don't know what NFC does, so I don't want it in my phone.

I don't know what a "Samsung" is. Is it small? Can I eat it?

There are plenty of legitimate reasons why you won't upgrade. A refusal to learn what some of the benefits are is NOT one of them.
 
Do you guys think the A6 is really twice as fast? I mean doesn't it contradict Moore's law this day in age? I mean companies like Intel, AMD, and Texas Instruments have faced the limitation barrier of current gen processors and struggle to improve performance year in and year out. Is it likely that Apple out of no-where can out manufacture these tried and tested companies? I mean they went from A5/A5x to A6 in a year and claim 2x the performance over the A5 in processing capability? (A5X is on par with A5 on this metric, but has better graphical performance) I guess we won't know till someone tears down the phone and puts it through the performance mill....

I think you've misinterpreted Moore's Law. And mobile processors are constantly making landmark advances. The A6 is certainly 2X as fast as the A5.
 
I've never tried putting the dock connector in the wrong way in my life so a reversible connector isn't really an improvement in my eyes.

Half of those "improvements" are really clutching at straws actually.

"In-cell touch" ? My iPad is incredibly smooth... touch screen responsiveness is NOT one of my complaints.

"Sapphire Crystal (more durable)" I don't use the camera lens cover to hammer nails in and don't make a habit of dropping my phone. It could be made out of plastic for all I care.

44% greater color saturation, Less glare - I've been spoiled by these with my S3 for several months already, but they're a welcome addition.

"Better Earphones" - still rubbish. If you want a decent audio experience you need to buy something better than Apple earphones.
 
I've never tried putting the dock connector in the wrong way in my life so a reversible connector isn't really an improvement in my eyes.

Half of those "improvements" are really clutching at straws actually.

"In-cell touch" ? My iPad is incredibly smooth... touch screen responsiveness is NOT one of my complaints.

The main benefits of in-cell touch are a thinner display and increased clarity. Nothing to do with responsiveness.

"Sapphire Crystal (more durable)" I don't use the camera lens cover to hammer nails in and don't make a habit of dropping my phone. It could be made out of plastic for all I care.

Similarly, the advantage of the sapphire crystal lens is scratch resistance, not breakage protection.
 
OP forget about 30 big improvements over 4S...

I'm upgrading from the 4. And also spent 3 months in the last year using a 3G. This is a huge step up, I'm sure.

Trust me, I'm excited about receiving my iPhone 5 on Friday!!
 
The main benefits of in-cell touch are a thinner display and increased clarity. Nothing to do with responsiveness.

So in-cell touch makes the display thinner, which in turns makes the device thinner. If that's the main advantage then it's not a separate advantage to being thinner.

Increased clarity sounds like something that most people won't even notice. I never heard complaints about the retina display being unclear.

Similarly, the advantage of the sapphire crystal lens is scratch resistance, not breakage protection.

Fair enough, that I can understand :)
 
So in-cell touch makes the display thinner, which in turns makes the device thinner. If that's the main advantage then it's not a separate advantage to being thinner.

Except overall thinness was not one of the improvements listed. A thinner screen and a thinner enclosure are two separate improvements.

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here. It's a list of hardware improvements. Whether or not you appreciate them doesn't change the fact that they exist. And whether there are 25 or 30 doesn't really change the point.
 
Except overall thinness was not one of the improvements listed. A thinner screen and a thinner enclosure are two separate improvements.

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here. It's a list of hardware improvements. Whether or not you appreciate them doesn't change the fact that they exist. And whether there are 25 or 30 doesn't really change the point.

I'm asking if these so called "improvements" are actually "improvements" ? An improvement surely has to make something better... why is a thinner screen better? Is that going to improve anyone's experience with the device?

Plus, a reversible connector is not an improvement for people who put a one sided connector in the correct way all the time. I'm not an idiot, there's a little diagram on the connector which shows which way the connector should be plugged in.

The term "improvement" is used very loosely in this thread.
 
I'm asking if these so called "improvements" are actually "improvements" ? An improvement surely has to make something better... why is a thinner screen better? Is that going to improve anyone's experience with the device?

Plus, a reversible connector is not an improvement for people who put a one sided connector in the correct way all the time. I'm not an idiot, there's a little diagram on the connector which shows which way the connector should be plugged in.

The term "improvement" is used very loosely in this thread.

You seem to be simply nitpicking. Thinner and lighter have obvious advantages in a mobile device.

And, again, the claim that you don't have problems with the old connector doesn't change the fact that it's an improvement. I'm sure you can imagine a situation where someone might attempt to put in the connector in the dark. Or design an accessory where the iPhone could be docked either way.
 
You seem to be simply nitpicking. Thinner and lighter have obvious advantages in a mobile device.

And, again, the claim that you don't have problems with the old connector doesn't change the fact that it's an improvement. I'm sure you can imagine a situation where someone might attempt to put in the connector in the dark. Or design an accessory where the iPhone could be docked either way.

I'm criticising minor details that somebody has brought up as improvements. A thinner screen is not an improvement for the consumer. I guarantee nobody would even know whether the screen was thinner or not. Apple talks about its' "precise engineering" to wow people. They're good at selling, and people fell for the hype hook, line and sinker.

Can't think of a single reversible accessory off the top of my head. Look, I'm not saying that a reversible dock connector is a bad thing, it's just not something I would even think twice about when comparing features between devices.
 
I for one am quite excited about the 5. I've been holding off on buying an iPhone for three years now, and have been using the same p.o.s Motorola i580 for six years now. What ever small or "big" improvements you all year-to-year iPhone purchasers are quibbling about will be light years ahead of my i580. I say bring on the iPhone 5!
 
I'm criticising minor details that somebody has brought up as improvements. A thinner screen is not an improvement for the consumer. I guarantee nobody would even know whether the screen was thinner or not. Apple talks about its' "precise engineering" to wow people. They're good at selling, and people fell for the hype hook, line and sinker.

Can't think of a single reversible accessory off the top of my head. Look, I'm not saying that a reversible dock connector is a bad thing, it's just not something I would even think twice about when comparing features between devices.

but....... They are improvements over the 4S, which is the whole point of this thread. It really doesn't matter what your opinion is regarding the improvements, they are still improvements over the 4S, which is the whole point of this thread .... oops did I repeat that
 
Display Improvements
4" Screen I'm perfectly happy with 3.5"
In-cell touch What?
44% greater color saturation I'm happy with the current screen colour, as are most people.
Full sRGB support Not sure what this is?
Higher brightness Current brightness is fine.
Less glare Glare doesn't affect me and I doubt it affects others.

Performance Improvements
2x CPU iPhone 4 is fast enough
2x GPU Current graphics processor is good enough IMO
Better battery life I doubt it, let's see what happens in real life.

Enclosure Improvements
20% Lighter Who cares?
18% Thinner As above.
Increased durability How exactly?

Wireless Improvements
LTE Good improvement but not worth £529
DC-HSDPA Unsure what this is.
Dual band 802.11n As above.

Camera/Video Improvements
Sapphire Crystal (more durable) Don't understand this.
40% faster capture speed Current camera is fine.
Better low-light performance How much better?
Improved noise-reduction
720p HD Facetime camera Current camera is fine.
Improved video stabilization Hmmm.
Still photos while recording video Pointless feature.
A6 post processing of photos Won't change much.

Audio Improvements
Better Earphones Nothing to do with iPhone 5 itself.
Three microphones What does this improve?
5 magnet speakers Unsure what this improves?
2-way noice cancelling earpiece As above.
Wideband/HD Audio HD audio? How does that work?

Connectivity Improvements
80% smaller dock connector Nothing wrong with the current dock.
Reversible dock connector What does this improve?

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All the above really shows me is that a lot of the new features are very minimal and hardly improve anything of any real significance. The only feature I actually think is a good improvement is the LTE.

The iPhone 5 is obviously the "best iPhone ever". But is it really worth the money for a lot of people? Certainly not for me.

I'm sticking with my iPhone 4 and until something really game changing comes out I'll be very happy with what I've got.

I think this has to be one of the most ignorant posts about an iPhone 5 yet.
 
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