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US Army AR380-19 is the military wipe method as an FYI in case anyone really wants to know...
 
These thumbnails are exported by email as 61 byte gif images and into dropbox as 43 byte gif images. But the original only flashes in dropbox for a second, then it turns white indefinitely. The original shows up in the dropbox thumbnail just like in the Photo app thumbnail
 
Nothing happening here, am I doing something wrong? 4S (7.0.4) and iPad 1 (5.1.1)
 
Seems like it's a 50/50 for users trying it. That being said, it seems like maybe it's not so much device specific as it may be "account" specific. Possibly any users that had photos saved on iCloud maybe? I am not saying that is the case, but merely making an educated guess from observations based on other peoples results.
 
By intentional the fact that is saves the thumbnails even when deleted from the phone. Not the bug that harvests the hidden thumbnails. It's not hard to believe these are held in some sort of hidden cache for law enforcement purposes intentionally.

Might be downloading from photo stream
 
I tried it and it worked. Wow what the heck. This is crazy! Also why is it that it only works with that picture. Anyone else tried any other picture
 
Not working for me. FYI I just received this iPhone 5 yesterday as a replacement. All I get is one black thumbnail and the tshirt image won't save.
 
Regarding the encryption, it applies to IOS because you can do the same type of wipe on your iPhone flash memory. Though it seems like it doesn't matter. This "cache" appears to maybe pull from a cloud server rather than local cache on the drive. At lest it seems that way going by user feedback from testing. Local cache would at least give it some credibility as a missed bug. If it's pulling from a photo stream server...well...then that's just and intentional code implementation in my opinion.....
 
Regarding the encryption, it applies to IOS because you can do the same type of wipe on your iPhone flash memory. Though it seems like it doesn't matter. This "cache" appears to maybe pull from a cloud server rather than local cache on the drive. At lest it seems that way going by user feedback from testing. Local cache would at least give it some credibility as a missed bug. If it's pulling from a photo stream server...well...then that's just and intentional code implementation in my opinion.....

It's coming from local storage. I turned off Wifi and cellular data, saved the pic, and it still brought up deleted thumbnails.
 
When you delete a photo or file it doesn't actually get deleted. Anyone can restore all those manually deleted pictures from the free space on your device. Until the free space itself has been overwritten using secure deletion algorithms. This is the same for your computer hard drives to.

There used to be a few apps on the app store that would zero out the free space but apple have recently been removing these type of apps including my favorite one called ishredder. I've still managed to keep a few and cydia has similar apps to.
 
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Confirmed on my 32GB iPhone 5s running iOS 7.0.4. Definitely an issue that needs addressing. The pictures aren't being pulled from photo stream because it pulled a deleted image that never even made it to photo stream.

I wonder what's causing this to happen.
 
I want to at least state this: I love apple products and am in no way bashing the company, they make great devices and software. But this a huge security vulnerability. It might be intentional like I said previously for law enforcement purposes, which I'm ok with. But now that it has been realized as an easy thing to harvest it needs an explanation. Heck, good thing I like my mothers boyfriend or I would have never found it. He just retired and I was buying him a short for Xmas lol
 
I want to at least state this: I love apple products and am in no way bashing the company, they make great devices and software. But this a huge security vulnerability. It might be intentional like I said previously for law enforcement purposes, which I'm ok with. But now that it has been realized as an easy thing to harvest it needs an explanation. Heck, good thing I like my mothers boyfriend or I would have never found it. He just retired and I was buying him a short for Xmas lol

You're way too paranoid.

It's just a bug. There's probably thousands of others that haven't even been discovered yet. That's just the nature of complex computer software.

Once Apple gets enough reports about it and can reproduce it, they'll fix it. It seems one poster has indicated it's fixed in the latest 7.1 beta.
 
You're way too paranoid.

It's just a bug. There's probably thousands of others that haven't even been discovered yet. That's just the nature of complex computer software.

Once Apple gets enough reports about it and can reproduce it, they'll fix it. It seems one poster has indicated it's fixed in the latest 7.1 beta.

Careful when you say "fixed". again, some people have not experienced the issue. So to say it does not work in the beta OS is not a conclusive test. Another poster said to have have seen it working as far as IOS 5. With privacy concerns being in the news as much as it is, especially from the "Snowden" incident, and also with the unified group Microsoft, Apple, Google etc setup to counter privacy concerns..it kind of leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
 
When you delete a photo or file it doesn't actually get deleted. Anyone can restore all those manually deleted pictures from the free space on your device. Until the free space itself has been overwritten using secure deletion algorithms. This is the same for your computer hard drives to.

There used to be a few apps on the app store that would zero out the free space but apple have recently been removing these type of apps including my favorite one called ishredder. I've still managed to keep a few and cydia has similar apps to.

That is exactly what I was referring to. I still have an app capable of doing a military grade wipe. Or so I thought....
 
That is exactly what I was referring to. I still have an app capable of doing a military grade wipe. Or so I thought....

Just tested it. ishredder works fine on ios 7 but it did get an ios 7 compatible update before apple removed it from the app store.

Xcleaner which is still on the app store but it doesn't seem work on ios 7 but does on ios 6 and I don't think it got an ios 7 compatible update.

Maybe it's a bug in ios 7 but I guess you'll prob have to rely on iwipe and others from cydia to be updated more often from now on.
 
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