Well, you can recover all (including deleted) thumbnails using a simple application on Android device using a computer. They are being stored on a device and not removed once a photo is deleted. Don't know about the iPhone though.
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Really creepy iOS 7 bug verified by friends
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Well it certainty doesn't work for me on 6.1.4. I don't have any kind of photo sharing enabled though (don't use icloud either, only local backups) so it may have something to do with enabling photo stream? Even if its not downloading from the cloud and getting it locally, maybe just having it on makes it save the last 10 or so thumbnails deleted?
I can repeat the process over and over and I keep getting more deleted pictures. So it's just the last few. They also seem to not have any rhyme or reason to the order either.
What is the deal with peoples' infatuation with "military grade" stuff?
For the record- the "military" uses the same computers/phones/software that any Joe Blow on the street does. There isn't much special about any of it and in fact, the standard desktop configuration is actually severely crippled compared to what you're using at home. The tech guys in the military doing "military wipes" aren't using some super duper DARPA grade stuff...
Seriously.
Carry on.
I was in the Marines and My wife still is and she is IT and I can promise you the above is true, there is no "military wipe" lol. As a matter of fact we are just now starting to adopt the iPad for the use of maps in the cockpit of planes and don't even allow iPhones or iPads plugged into our network, IT would disable your computer and come to collect your device lol. And also the desktop computers that we use are still running window xp or whatever it was like 10 years ago, and most are to minimal to even run a movie player much less some special military wiping software that no one else would have that is apple created or approved.
One more thing, if you really were told that, the enlisted boot that took your phone just looked threw all your stuff laughing at your photos with his other boot buddy and made jokes about how you believed there was a special wipe and how it was hilarious you brought your phone in for them to go to settings and reset all settings lol but yeah this bug would suck if you delete pictures that you needed to hide or something.
What's the problem?
It's just an iOS bug that causes transparent PNGs to show old images in the transparent areas. It's been there for years.
If you save a PNG that's completely transparent, you'll get an old image showing up in the entire thumbnail. That's what you're doing.
It's just an iOS bug that causes transparent PNGs to show old images in the transparent areas. It's been there for years.
If you save a PNG that's completely transparent, you'll get an old image showing up in the entire thumbnail. That's what you're doing.
The fact it's been there for years makes it worse.
Why do you cooly ask "What's the problem?" when you acknowledge it's a bug that's been around for years???
I guess it was probably more to say that this is actually nothing new or really surprising at this point. There have been various articles and threads about it in the past. It certainly doesn't make it better in any way or isn't to say it shouldn't be fixed somehow, but it has been there for a whole with coverage of it throughout all this time, so nothing crazy/shocking (aside from that it hasn't been fixed, but perhaps it's not seen as a high priority issue or perhaps fixing it might require more changes than Apple is willing to make so far for a fix like that).
The way Apple's been going lately, we could say it's fixed in beta 2 and we'll see it it's still fixed in beta 3 or the release.
Thanks for checking on that. I hadn't verified it yet.
Makes sense to be honest. The bug is obviously that these images aren't really being deleted, just marked as such. Presumably when you backup those not-really-deleted images are backed up too, and then when you restore later they're restored too, irrespective of how many times you've wiped the phone in the meantime.
Another bug kicks in when you save a transparent png and hey presto, the not-really-deleted image restored from your backup pops up.
There seems to be a general misunderstanding on what 'deleted' means.
I don't develop on Apple products but on most platforms 'deleted' does not mean the data is erased from the disk. It merely means the pointer to the data on the disk is set to available. So when necessary that 'available' disk space can then be overwritten when you save something else. That could be days or even years later.
Someone who does development on Apple OS systems can correct me if it's done differently here.
I don't think you understand how security is implemented on an iPhone. I'm curious what you think you are doing. What app are you using and what do you think it's doing and why?
I though "military wipe" meant using a rock or a leaf to wipe one's ass when TP is not available.
But seriously, it's funny how people make conclusion about what's present and what's not on their device based on what they see on the screen. If somebody really wants to see your "deleted" photos, they can and will (except for those photos that got overwritten because of limited space).
I'm sure you're right and I don't think my post before disagreed, it's just a fact that we generally use the term "delete" as shorthand for the process of "marking files deleted". In this case there is a bug which means that deleted flag is not being respected, which effectively means that "delete" means very little at all in this context.
Suspect: "I swear officer, I've never produced kiddie porn before!"
Police: "Oh, really?" *grabs iPhone*
Police: "Oh, really?" *grabs iPhone*
Really creepy iOS 7 bug verified by friends
It is not the deleted files themselves, it is a bug in the way iOS stores the thumbnails for the files and in the way iOS handles transparency in the photo app. I first ran into this issue when I was jailbroken. If you used iFile to delete the thumbnail files and then resprung/rebooted in order to get iOS to generate new ones it would fix the issue. It would reoccur if you deleted new images but the images that were deleted and showing up before you deleted the thumbnail files would no longer show up.
It is not the deleted files themselves, it is a bug in the way iOS stores the thumbnails for the files and in the way iOS handles transparency in the photo app. I first ran into this issue when I was jailbroken. If you used iFile to delete the thumbnail files and then resprung/rebooted in order to get iOS to generate new ones it would fix the issue. It would reoccur if you deleted new images but the images that were deleted and showing up before you deleted the thumbnail files would no longer show up.
I haven't tried it recently, but I noticed that one of the security fixes from iOS 7.1 might have addressed this.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6162
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6162