Really, what are Apple's selling points going to be for iP5?

[golf1410]

Can Apple please talk about Image Retention on MacBook Pro retina?

 

[jps1012]

They've improved the camera on the iphone for each iteration since the 3GS and used it as a "selling point" in every announcement. Most likely another "revolutionized" camera in the 5 that they will talk about again as if it is something new.

My predictions:

-Taller! ("You've never seen anything this incredible before!" or "We weren't first but we got it right!")
-Better camera ("The most incredible photographs ever taken on a phone!")
-Thinner! ("Amazing!")
-Same better life ("An even bigger phone and screen but retained the battery! It's amazing!")
-World LTE ("So fast!")
-Seamless integration with passbook! ("Look at this!")

Sorry, lol. Apple is so predictable with the tempo of their presentations. "It's magical!"

Lol. This sounds about right. Its annoying when they go into the new iOS features that we already know about.

- I don't like the 16:9 format but I think they will go into the advantages of it.

 

[dw3bb10]

They've improved the camera on the iphone for each iteration since the 3GS and used it as a "selling point" in every announcement. Most likely another "revolutionized" camera in the 5 that they will talk about again as if it is something new.

My predictions:

-Taller! ("You've never seen anything this incredible before!" or "We weren't first but we got it right!")
-Better camera ("The most incredible photographs ever taken on a phone!")
-Thinner! ("Amazing!")
-Same better life ("An even bigger phone and screen but retained the battery! It's amazing!")
-World LTE ("So fast!")
-Seamless integration with passbook! ("Look at this!")

Sorry, lol. Apple is so predictable with the tempo of their presentations. "It's magical!"

Lmao, I just imagined Steve Jobs on stage saying all of this. Sounds exactly like stuff he would say at a keynote!

 

[MythicFrost]

We are at the eve of the keynote and I'm wondering what Apple's selling points are going to be tomorrow. We've heard pretty much nothing, besides a panoramic camera. Are they really going to make it one of their "tent poles"??? By this time last year, we had at least heard about Siri. So, what's it going to be?

LTE is a given. I'll give that as a selling point.

Faster processing? Like what the iPad 3 got? I don't know, my current 4S runs fairly fast with whatever I throw at it.

A bigger screen? Is this really a selling point? Seems like a personal preference. Besides, the screen really isn't getting that bigger.

More RAM? Not a selling point as Apple doesn't advertise iPhone RAM.

Better Camera? Got that last year.

Better battery life? Doesn't seem likely with LTE and the bigger screen.

Finally, NFC? All the hardware leaks seem to be arguing against the inclusion of NFC.

So, what's Apple going to talk about for 2 hours? A blow-by-blow rehash of iOS 6?

A6 SoC at 32nm w/ fast quad-core processor, SGX543MP2 +20% clock speed, 1GB RAM, 4-inch 326 PPI IGZO IPS display, 4G LTE, and better battery life due to the 32nm SoC and IGZO display. It's going to sell very well

And of course a better front and rear facing camera, and it's thinner.

 

[Nautilus007]

It will be underwhelming but I'll still buy it

 

[OSMac]

Someday the excitement over Apple's latest iPhone announcement will wear off.
That day is not tomorrow... And threads like this are the proof.

 

[miamialley]

They've improved the camera on the iphone for each iteration since the 3GS and used it as a "selling point" in every announcement. Most likely another "revolutionized" camera in the 5 that they will talk about again as if it is something new.

My predictions:

-Taller! ("You've never seen anything this incredible before!" or "We weren't first but we got it right!")
-Better camera ("The most incredible photographs ever taken on a phone!")
-Thinner! ("Amazing!")
-Same better life ("An even bigger phone and screen but retained the battery! It's amazing!")
-World LTE ("So fast!")
-Seamless integration with passbook! ("Look at this!")

Sorry, lol. Apple is so predictable with the tempo of their presentations. "It's magical!"

Lol, yeah I can hear Cook now saying those lines!

 

[beamer8912]

We are at the eve of the keynote and I'm wondering what Apple's selling points are going to be tomorrow. We've heard pretty much nothing, besides a panoramic camera. Are they really going to make it one of their "tent poles"??? By this time last year, we had at least heard about Siri. So, what's it going to be?

LTE is a given. I'll give that as a selling point.

Faster processing? Like what the iPad 3 got? I don't know, my current 4S runs fairly fast with whatever I throw at it.

A bigger screen? Is this really a selling point? Seems like a personal preference. Besides, the screen really isn't getting that bigger.

More RAM? Not a selling point as Apple doesn't advertise iPhone RAM.

Better Camera? Got that last year.

Better battery life? Doesn't seem likely with LTE and the bigger screen.

Finally, NFC? All the hardware leaks seem to be arguing against the inclusion of NFC.

So, what's Apple going to talk about for 2 hours? A blow-by-blow rehash of iOS 6?

They managed to pitch the 4S last year. That was much less of an upgrade than the 5 will be. The 4S was a camera, siri and minor spec bump at best.

The 5 will be LTE, Screen, spec bump, camera (?), nfc(?) and maybe a surprise. Without a doubt a better upgrade than the 4S was.

 

[MythicFrost]

They managed to pitch the 4S last year. That was much less of an upgrade than the 5 will be. The 4S was a camera, siri and minor spec bump at best.

The 5 will be LTE, Screen, spec bump, camera (?), nfc(?) and maybe a surprise. Without a doubt a better upgrade than the 4S was.

It wasn't a minor spec bump. Going from a single-core processor and graphics to a dual-core processor and graphics is a pretty good upgrade, and then there was the improved reception, better 3G battery life, better camera, etc.

But you're right the 5 will be bigger. It should be a quad-core, hopefully 1.2GHz as I've seen rumoured somewhere, improved graphics (for the larger resolution), 4-inch display, 4G LTE, and much improved battery life. It's thinner and will probably have a better camera too.

 

[Jimmy James]

Wirelessly posted

What's Retina "plus"?

The thinner touch screen. It may also make the screen look better, but I don't think it'll be the leap we saw between the non-retina and retina display. That was a big difference.

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Wirelessly posted

On the one hand you seem to write-off a screen size increase as insignificant. On the other you use it as a liability for battery life.

For goodness sakes pick your side of the fence.

I wasn't picking sides. And everything I said is true, is it not?

No, it's not true. The screen size update is not insignificant.

 

[Faux Carnival]

The logo.

 

[beamer8912]

It wasn't a minor spec bump. Going from a single-core processor and graphics to a dual-core processor and graphics is a pretty good upgrade, and then there was the improved reception, better 3G battery life, better camera, etc.

Pretty much everything you mentioned happens every upgrade with the exception of single-core to dual-core. Doesn't really make it stand out among the other upgrades. Siri was the standout feature and it flopped. They might have been able to do more with the spec upgrade but no developer really took advantage of it. Pretty much all apps worked on the 4 and 4S.

What really set the 4S apart from the other upgrades was Siri. Just like today's upgrade boils down to a screen and LTE.

 

[zbarvian]

New design, new hardware, incredible engineering...

7.6 mm thin
20% lighter
Larger, 4 inch screen with 44% more color saturation
2x CPU
2x GPU
Camera improvements
Improved audio and headphones
LTE
Better Wi-Fi connectivity

This is by far the biggest update to the iPhone.

 

[MythicFrost]

Pretty much everything you mentioned happens every upgrade with the exception of single-core to dual-core. Doesn't really make it stand out among the other upgrades. Siri was the standout feature and it flopped. They might have been able to do more with the spec upgrade but no developer really took advantage of it. Pretty much all apps worked on the 4 and 4S.

What really set the 4S apart from the other upgrades was Siri. Just like today's upgrade boils down to a screen and LTE.

Siri wasn't the standout feature, and it didn't flop either. Speed improvements from the dual-core were substantial, and the dual-core graphics were utilised to improve game graphics greatly.

Today we get a larger and more colour accurate display, 4G LTE, and then a processor which is twice as fast, graphics which are twice as fast, and likely twice as much RAM too. With more battery than before. It's also thinner and lighter. Not sure what else could possibly be done.

 

[scaredpoet]

A6 SoC at 32nm w/ fast quad-core processor, SGX543MP2 +20% clock speed, 1GB RAM, 4-inch 326 PPI IGZO IPS display, 4G LTE, and better battery life due to the 32nm SoC and IGZO display.

That's what you tell the Android fans, who seem to prefer alphabet soup over over applied usability.

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Today we get a larger and more colour accurate display, 4G LTE, and then a processor which is twice as fast, graphics which are twice as fast, and likely twice as much RAM too. With more battery than before. It's also thinner and lighter. Not sure what else could possibly be done.

...And this is what you tell everyone else.

 

[chakraj]

top selling point from apple store.


You are dumb, We are geniuses, buy what we make dummies...

 

[MythicFrost]

That's what you tell the Android fans, who seem to prefer alphabet soup over over applied usability.

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...And this is what you tell everyone else.

What? The first quote is what I originally expected, I'm far happier with the dual-core Cortex A15 and twice as powerful graphics.

 

[beamer8912]

Siri wasn't the standout feature, and it didn't flop either. Speed improvements from the dual-core were substantial, and the dual-core graphics were utilised to improve game graphics greatly.

Not sure what else could possibly be done.

So you believe Siri was a success? I think you should look into that. Specifically, look at what people are using Siri for. You'll find the majority are for entertainment/showing off where as the minority are using it more as an assistant (as Apple intended it to be used).

It was a nice spec boost. But again, not nearly as great as 3G -> 3GS. Even then, all the games still perform more or less the same. Words with friends looks just as good on the iPhone 4. Benchmark wise, its great. Practically, not so much.

More could be done. Just go read one of the threads about people disappointed with today's upgrade.

 

[MythicFrost]

So you believe Siri was a success? I think you should look into that. Specifically, look at what people are using Siri for. You'll find the majority are for entertainment/showing off where as the minority are using it more as an assistant (as Apple intended it to be used).

It was a nice spec boost. But again, not nearly as great as 3G -> 3GS. Even then, all the games still perform more or less the same. Words with friends looks just as good on the iPhone 4. Benchmark wise, its great. Practically, not so much.

More could be done. Just go read one of the threads about people disappointed with today's upgrade.

It's still in Beta. It's hardly finished, it will continue to improve. It's useful for some things though.

The 3G to 3GS was only a minor boost in speed -- the 4 to 4S was a more significant boost.

 

[swingerofbirch]

I think they are grasping at straws for selling points. I found this gem on the iPhone product page:

"During manufacturing, each iPhone 5 aluminum housing is photographed by two high-powered 29MP cameras. A machine then examines the images and compares them against 725 unique inlays to find the most precise match for every single iPhone."

Do you remember when people commended Apple for not bombarding customers with useless specs?

 

[boomhower]

The screen and LTE is going to sell plenty alone. Everything else is just gravy.

 

[beamer8912]

It's still in Beta. It's hardly finished, it will continue to improve. It's useful for some things though.

The 3G to 3GS was only a minor boost in speed -- the 4 to 4S was a more significant boost.

That is laughable. I don't think you quite remember how slow it was just to open the settings app on a 3G. Go back and watch the keynote. Page load times went from 30 seconds to 5 seconds with the 3GS.

Regardless of it being in beta or not. It was the main selling point, and it didn't live up to expectations (even if they were lofty expectations for a beta product).

 

[MythicFrost]

That is laughable. I don't think you quite remember how slow it was just to open the settings app on a 3G. Go back and watch the keynote. Page load times went from 30 seconds to 5 seconds with the 3GS.

Regardless of it being in beta or not. It was the main selling point, and it didn't live up to expectations (even if they were lofty expectations for a beta product).

I remember, I owned one four months or so ago. And I have a 3GS right now. It was slow, and the 3GS was a definite improvement but it certainly wasn't 30 seconds.

It may be fast with the 4S now, but hands on reports say it's faster with the 5. It's going to be important for apps like iPhoto, Garage Band, and even just opening apps and switching apps, etc.

 

[beamer8912]

I remember, I owned one four months or so ago. And I have a 3GS right now. It was slow, and the 3GS was a definite improvement but it certainly wasn't 30 seconds.

It may be fast with the 4S now, but hands on reports say it's faster with the 5. It's going to be important for apps like iPhoto, Garage Band, and even just opening apps and switching apps, etc.

I remember, I owned a 3G 4 years ago (I think it was 4 at least). The next year, my sisters 3GS put my 3G to shame when loading apps, safari pages etc. A much greater difference than the 4-> 4S.

Check this out to see a video comparison. Now go look it at a 4 vs 4S. Now which upgrade do you think had the greatest effect on speed?

 

[Richardgm]

1. Thinnest* smartphone ever!
2. Most beautiful, too.