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It could be in the update because they already paid for it long ago, and Google was late in delivering.

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But that's just it.

Why PAY for THAT?

Hmmmm....

May Google God knows what for street view or pay a developer to write copy and paste code, which probably would take a few hours tops.

But riddle me this.

Speaking of simple features, and why they are missing.

Apple touts this phone as being business ready and all of that.

Well I say HOG WASH.

Why oh WHY does this phone only have ONE tone, which sucks and is too low, for emails?

I can change Ring Tones. Even Texting tones.

But don't tout this thing as business ready until you give me an email tone I can actually hear or adjust to hear.
 
can sombody explain bluetooth

Ok...one question for someone much smarter than I. What would it take to have apple add bluetooth so that you could voice dial from a b-tooth ear piece as apposed to speaking into the phone? Is that a firmware or hardware issue....why would apple leave it out. especially being a Ca company and hands free is now the law.
 
Because they can, if you don't like it go buy something, it's not like only the iphone is missing features.
 
Apple touts this phone as being business ready and all of that.

Well I say HOG WASH.

Why oh WHY does this phone only have ONE tone, which sucks and is too low, for emails?

I can change Ring Tones. Even Texting tones.

But don't tout this thing as business ready until you give me an email tone I can actually hear or adjust to hear.

dear god. :confused:
 
Because they can, if you don't like it go buy something, it's not like only the iphone is missing features.
Because they can??

That is your answer?

Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

If that is the REAL reason they leave stuff out, then they are fools.
dear god. :confused:
What are you confused about?

What part of my phone made no sense?

The tone the iPhone plays when you get an email is low and it sucks.

If you don't agree, then say that and why.

Or, you could just be a smart ass and get called on it. :D
 
But that's just it.

Why PAY for THAT?

Hmmmm....

May Google God knows what for street view or pay a developer to write copy and paste code, which probably would take a few hours tops.

But riddle me this.

Speaking of simple features, and why they are missing.

Apple touts this phone as being business ready and all of that.

Well I say HOG WASH.

Why oh WHY does this phone only have ONE tone, which sucks and is too low, for emails?

I can change Ring Tones. Even Texting tones.

But don't tout this thing as business ready until you give me an email tone I can actually hear or adjust to hear.


Are you kidding me?

Maybe you need to get your hearing checked, because I can hear my alert tone just fine when I get an email. Plus the phone vibrates. And as far as business use goes, well, I use my iPhone for my business every day, and it performs perfectly. As do the many other iPhones in my company. In fact, they work so well... bye bye Blackberry's.

The way I see it is, if you want see a product, and it has a certain feature set, but doesn't include some features, you have to decide whether you want to live without them. If you didn't know the features were missing, you had 30 days to return the product. Otherwise, sorry, the fault is yours for not realizing it was missing features that were key to you.

I totally understand wanting different features, and it is great to let that be know to Apple. But seriously, the horse is dead, and no matter how much you beat on it, you can't kill it any more. I just don't understand how C&P and MMS are such life-or-death features. If they are important to you, DON"T BUY AN IPHONE.
 
I totally understand wanting different features, and it is great to let that be know to Apple. But seriously, the horse is dead, and no matter how much you beat on it, you can't kill it any more. I just don't understand how C&P and MMS are such life-or-death features. If they are important to you, DON"T BUY AN IPHONE.

i don't think MMS is life and death but its nice to send a photo or video to cell phone that are not pda's. It's crazy to think that the sender should know the provider of the target cell phone.

I'm still confused about the need of cut and paste though. For me if your putting together a document that requires cut and past I think you need to get on a computer.
 
I'm still confused about the need of cut and paste though. For me if your putting together a document that requires cut and past I think you need to get on a computer.

I can see that copy/paste can come in handy from time to time. For instance, if you just want to comment on a particular line of a mail message, it would be nice to be able to copy and paste the line and add your comment below it in your reply.
 
What are you confused about?
What part of my phone made no sense?
The tone the iPhone plays when you get an email is low and it sucks.
If you don't agree, then say that and why.
Or, you could just be a smart ass and get called on it.

I'm not confused at all. I was merely shaking my head at the ludicrous comment you made when you basically said the iPhone is not business-ready because it only has one tone for incoming emails.

If that's "business-ready" for you my friend, you must really be some business user...

:D
 
First off, no, I am not kidding you. I don't need my hearing checked as I have good enough hearing.

Second, me and my wife have an iPhone. I just love when that tone goes off and we both grab our phones and one of us is wasting our time. This could be fixed by simply allowing a few different options. You know. Like the other two tones for incoming services? Wowzers. What a concept.

Third, why is it such a big deal that I want the iPhone to be able to do the simple things that EVERY other phone can do.

Blackberry Pearl? Yup, the Message Tone is Adjustable.

Blackberry Curve? Yup, the Message Tone is Adjustable.

Cingular HTC 8525? Yup, the Message Tone is Adjustable.

Sony Erickson w600i? Yup, the Message Tone is Adjustable.

Fourth, excuse me for not testing the volume level of the message tone before I bought the phone. Oh, that's right, AT&T didn't have one I could test with at the time, nor, are the message tone options on the Apple Web Site that I am aware of.

Fifth, my bad for thinking Apple had some common sense when it comes to notification tones. I mean, you can change your SMS and Ring tone, but not the email tone? How senseless is that? VERY.

Man..

I just love these Fan Boys that get all offended like they themselves invented the iPhone when someone requests an enhancement.

Makes me chuckle every time.
Are you kidding me?

Maybe you need to get your hearing checked, because I can hear my alert tone just fine when I get an email. Plus the phone vibrates. And as far as business use goes, well, I use my iPhone for my business every day, and it performs perfectly. As do the many other iPhones in my company. In fact, they work so well... bye bye Blackberry's.

The way I see it is, if you want see a product, and it has a certain feature set, but doesn't include some features, you have to decide whether you want to live without them. If you didn't know the features were missing, you had 30 days to return the product. Otherwise, sorry, the fault is yours for not realizing it was missing features that were key to you.

I totally understand wanting different features, and it is great to let that be know to Apple. But seriously, the horse is dead, and no matter how much you beat on it, you can't kill it any more. I just don't understand how C&P and MMS are such life-or-death features. If they are important to you, DON"T BUY AN IPHONE.
 
I'm not confused at all. I was merely shaking my head at the ludicrous comment you made when you basically said the iPhone is not business-ready because it only has one tone for incoming emails.

If that's "business-ready" for you my friend, you must really be some business user...

:D
Well..

5 IT guys sitting in a room, all with iPhones and the Message Tone goes off.

As all 5 grab their phones, 4 of them just wasted their time.

Yea, I know it has vibrate. But you know what? It is useless when the phone is in a pouch.

So, I don't think I am "some business user."

I think pretty much any business requiring numbers of their folks to be somewhere and all have access to their devices would want a device where that stuff is a bit more customizable.

Of course, that is why my company issues us Blackberries.

The iPhone is for personal use only. So it is just me and my wife that grabs our phones and only 1 of us wastes our time. :D
 
The iPhone is for personal use only. So it is just me and my wife that grabs our phones and only 1 of us wastes our time. :D
LOL.

Seriously, I agree with you on this. It is ridiculous that the iPhone only has one fixed ringtone for incoming e-mail messages. I have no idea why Apple decided to put such a meaningless restriction.
 
Well..

5 IT guys sitting in a room, all with iPhones and the Message Tone goes off.

As all 5 grab their phones, 4 of them just wasted their time.

Yea, I know it has vibrate. But you know what? It is useless when the phone is in a pouch.

So, I don't think I am "some business user."

I think pretty much any business requiring numbers of their folks to be somewhere and all have access to their devices would want a device where that stuff is a bit more customizable.

Of course, that is why my company issues us Blackberries.

The iPhone is for personal use only. So it is just me and my wife that grabs our phones and only 1 of us wastes our time. :D



that scenario is my coworkers and i at work every 5 minutes!!! tri-tone is the only good one, so typical everyone uses it!
 
I think pretty much any business requiring numbers of their folks to be somewhere and all have access to their devices would want a device where that stuff is a bit more customizable.

Of course, that is why my company issues us Blackberries.

The iPhone is for personal use only. So it is just me and my wife that grabs our phones and only 1 of us wastes our time. :D

You're funny man!

I'm glad that your company has made the decision to go with Blackberries since the iPhone only has one notification tone for incoming emails. Sounds like they are really on top of things!
 
Fourth, excuse me for not testing the volume level of the message tone before I bought the phone. Oh, that's right, AT&T didn't have one I could test with at the time, nor, are the message tone options on the Apple Web Site that I am aware of.

Let me get this straight: the e-mail notification tone is (obviously) a big deal for you. So rather than spend a few minutes to research this issue, or find a phone you could try somewhere, you went and spent several hundred dollars on a device and are now complaining it doesn't do what you want?

If the poor grammar and smarmy nature of your previous posts didn't indicate a lack of maturity, this certainly did.

It wouldn't have been that hard to find this out ahead of time. It's the first hit on Google.
 
The way I see it is, if you want see a product, and it has a certain feature set, but doesn't include some features, you have to decide whether you want to live without them. If you didn't know the features were missing, you had 30 days to return the product. Otherwise, sorry, the fault is yours for not realizing it was missing features that were key to you.

If you were talking about a non-updateable object like a hammer, then we could agree with you.

But most of what people ask for, is easily doable via a software upgrade... which in the iPhone's case, is very easy to distribute and has been done often already, both to fix bugs and to add features... some by popular demand.
 
I also suspect the iPhone development team simply isn't very well managed or organised.

I just think it probably isn't very big. How many employees does Apple have overall? 28,000 or something? That's worldwide too (including retail), not just at the Cupertino HQ. From that it's not hard to imagine that the iPhone dev team could be considerably smaller than the Nokia team developing Symbian, for example. I think they've probably just got a list of stuff to do, in order based on whatever criteria they're using to assign priority, and that these features just haven't made it to the top yet.
 
Let me get this straight: the e-mail notification tone is (obviously) a big deal for you. So rather than spend a few minutes to research this issue, or find a phone you could try somewhere, you went and spent several hundred dollars on a device and are now complaining it doesn't do what you want?

If the poor grammar and smarmy nature of your previous posts didn't indicate a lack of maturity, this certainly did.

It wouldn't have been that hard to find this out ahead of time. It's the first hit on Google.
Oh give me a break.

First of all, it is not a BIG deal for me. If it was a BIG deal for me, the phone would have been returned on day two of me having it. I am not complaining it doesn't do what I want. I am complaining about Apple's FALSE advertisement that this phone is ready for business use when it isn't. (You know, kind of like the ad they had pulled because they were trying to say the phone is way faster than it is.)

Second, I wasn't smarmy until some fan boy's (look in mirror dude) decided that I didn't have a right to "complain" about something EVERY smart phone on the planet can do........... Except the precious iPhone that is above all criticism. As far as my "grammar" goes, I really don't care about your opinion or what you think it proves. It proves that when I posted that I was in a hurry and nothing else.

Third, the first hit in Google that you decided to waste my time with takes me to a HACKING site. Your search proves my point very nicely though, so thanks for sharing it. Unless I want to hack the iPhone and void it's warranty, it can't do something that EVERY other Smart Phone can do.

EVERY other Smart Phone can change the volume and or message tone for email.

And you want to defend Apple for that and/or act like I am an ass for complaining about that? ROFL...

Whatever Fan Boy. Keep going status quo. If everyone in the world was like you, we would still have cars powered by our feet.
 
They could have left out themes because the vast majority of them look utterly gash.

It doesn't really gel with the image they're trying to present when you see a lovely iPhone with a horrible, garish theme on it. Quite a few people could conceivably mistake the awful theme as the actual bog standard default UI, I suppose.
 
I think pretty much any business requiring numbers of their folks to be somewhere and all have access to their devices would want a device where that stuff is a bit more customizable.

Of course, that is why my company issues us Blackberries.

First of all, it is not a BIG deal for me. If it was a BIG deal for me, the phone would have been returned on day two of me having it. I am not complaining it doesn't do what I want. I am complaining about Apple's FALSE advertisement that this phone is ready for business use when it isn't. (You know, kind of like the ad they had pulled because they were trying to say the phone is way faster than it is.)

I guess maybe the email sound is not a big deal to you, but obviously it was for your company.

I am not complaining it doesn't do what I want. I am complaining about Apple's FALSE advertisement that this phone is ready for business use when it isn't. (You know, kind of like the ad they had pulled because they were trying to say the phone is way faster than it is.)

I think you're confused on what you're complaining about.

And about the "false" advertisement, don't get me started! Apple is trying to show off the different features of the iPhone. Does anyone really want to watch a 10 minute commercial showing the features in real time? Hell no!

Also, did you know that when you get the Macbook, it won't spin around in a circle on your desk? But why not??? They show it do that on the commercial.
 
I guess maybe the email sound is not a big deal to you, but obviously it was for your company.
Exactly.

I mean, I hate that I can't change it and that sometimes I miss the tone.

But it wouldn't have been a deal breaker had I known that before I bought it anyway. That really isn't my point or the way I am thinking. There are just too many GOOD things about this phone to not still want it.

But that doesn't make me wish any less that I had several choices like I do for SMS.

Honestly, people need to quit throwing out the "complaining" and "why did you buy it" Bull &*&@#.

What, I am Satan because I WANT this phone to be THE best device on the planet that can do EVERYTHING the competition can do? I mean, does that really make me such a bad guy?

And about the "false" advertisement, don't get me started! Apple is trying to show off the different features of the iPhone. Does anyone really want to watch a 10 minute commercial showing the features in real time? Hell no!

Also, did you know that when you get the Macbook, it won't spin around in a circle on your desk? But why not??? They show it do that on the commercial.
LOL...

Excellent point.
 
I am complaining about Apple's FALSE advertisement that this phone is ready for business use when it isn't.

It is something that Apple should certainly change, but I'm sorry, the lack of notification tones for incoming email alone does not justify what you are saying above.

Second, I wasn't smarmy until some fan boy's (look in mirror dude) decided that I didn't have a right to "complain" about something EVERY smart phone on the planet can do.....

Whatever Fan Boy. Keep going status quo. If everyone in the world was like you, we would still have cars powered by our feet.

Are you the type of person that resorts to putting other people down at the end of every conversation? (it appears that you do) If so, I'm sorry that your self-ego is that low. There's no reason to feel that way about yourself!
 
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