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AT&T has about 90 million customers. .01 of 90 million is 900,000. That means there 900,000 people using more than 50 GB of data a month. That is a LOT for a mobile operator.

It's not a secret that the top few customers use an extraordinary amount of bandwidth in any ISP (250,000 people use 90% of Comcast's total bandwidth for example.

The next time you post something so stupid, please take your own advice and use your head.



Exactly. Unfortunately Looon has absolutely no idea what he's talking about

dude, your math is wrong. and your also assuming all users have a data plan. also unless he lives so close to you that you use the same cell tower im pretty sure your gonna be unaffected.
 
If the friend is tethering, the person is probably watching it on the computer; that's usually a watchable screen. IMO, that tetherer is a cheap *******.
Agreed. How in the world could anyone look at 20+ GB a month on such a small screen?
 
lol @ all the "outrage" in this thread. You guys need to calm yourselves
 
Your friend deserves to have his contract terminated and should be charged separately for the data he used.

Seriously, people. If you're going to tether without paying, don't ****ing use it as a home internet connection and download multimedia files from it.

Tell your cheapass friend to get a job and buy a real connection.

This is what happens when you make jailbreaking so easy. Every moron in the world can jailbreak their phone (or another persons) and tether recklessly, ruining the network for the rest of us.

He paid for it. Stands to reason he can use it however he wants.
 
He paid for it. Stands to reason he can use it however he wants.

umm tethering is excluded in the contract. If you read it flat out says you can not tether.
Tethering is in direct volalation of the contract and AT&T is in every right to charge him for every meg he used it for during the tethering.
 
He paid for it. Stands to reason he can use it however he wants.

You pay for a car. You cannot use it however you want.
You pay for property. You cannot use it however you want.
Purchasing something ≠ Unbridled usage rights
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

Now I have a unlimited plan and only use about 1.5 gigs but if they guy paid for unlimited that's what he should get not someone telling him how much he can use. I feel AT&T and most cell phone company's rip people off enough. How would u like to buy something and have someone tell u how much u can use. Also look how much att is ripping people off with the 2 gig plan but won't let it roll over u paid for it so why not let the person keep it till they use it.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

Now I have a unlimited plan and only use about 1.5 gigs but if they guy paid for unlimited that's what he should get not someone telling him how much he can use. I feel AT&T and most cell phone company's rip people off enough. How would u like to buy something and have someone tell u how much u can use. Also look how much att is ripping people off with the 2 gig plan but won't let it roll over u paid for it so why not let the person keep it till they use it.

He paid for unlimited data for use on his iPhone and iPhone only. He is not paying for unlimited use on his computer via tethering. People like him are the reason why unlimited data plans are a thing of the past.
 
Damn there is a lot of butthurt in this thread. I have wifi at home so while I am one of the lucky few who still has the unlimited data plan for my iphone I almost never come close to using over a few gb. But If I was strapped for cash I would jailbreak and tether in a heartbeat (I would never pay for the tethering feature, that is a cheap-ass move by ATT/Apple who ever runs the show). I would just think that using 3g to stream a lot of movies would be slow as hell but if it works for him more power to him.

And it is not affecting other people. Most people don't use much data at all so the very very few that DO use a ton of data are just making use of the bandwidth available. And with how crappy the ATT network is and how much they charge they are the only entity at fault if you have a sub par 3G experience.

Hell, this kinda makes me wanna JB my phone again and see how much I can rack up in a month.
 
(1) this was a very friendly letter
(2) your 'friend' is an idiot
(3) why did you open a thread for this?

The right thing AT&T should have done is:

AT&T should ask your friend to bring your phone in for service (hey, something with the network component is broken) and if they see it's jailbroken they should terminate the contract and charge him for tethering.
 
He paid for it. Stands to reason he can use it however he wants.

he paid for use on his iPHONE - this does not include tethering and laptop use !

Ok, lets say you go into an All You Can Eat Buffet Restaurant ("The unlimited data plan") you pay for it and eat whatever is on the buffet. Than you friend shows you how to get into the kitchen where they have all sorts of other foods (prepared for some other occasion or a private party, probably more expensive and better) that are not part of the buffet - do you just go into that door ("Tethering") and eat whatever you can find? The owner of the restaurant would (rightful) call this stealing.
 
Unlimited data is stupid, because most of us pay more to subsidize people like that. We should be paying by the MB just like we pay by the kWh for electricity or the gallon for water; let the extremely heavy users pay their own way.

The idea of wanting to pay by the MB is laughable in todays world as AT&T, Verizon, and others would make us pay so much that our bills would probably double or triple. AT&T would issue a letter telling us how "Consumers win when they pay $1.99 per MB!"

Though many point to industries where you pay for exactly what you use, there are also MANY industries that make you buy a certain amount and whether you use it all or not is your choice. Neither is that "crazy"
 
And it is not affecting other people. Most people don't use much data at all so the very very few that DO use a ton of data are just making use of the bandwidth available.

Ok, so I guess there's no problem with....

And with how crappy the ATT network is and how much they charge they are the only entity at fault if you have a sub par 3G experience.

...uhm...ok...

So 'everything's fine' except that 'everything's crappy.'

Yeah, I'm sure there's absolutely no connection between those two things.
 
Bottom line is your friend is breaking the terms of his contract by tethering. Not only that, but he is slowing down internet for anyone else who is on the same tower. Your friend should be hung by the gonads from the nearest cell phone tower. :eek:
 
Ok, so I guess there's no problem with....



...uhm...ok...

So 'everything's fine' except that 'everything's crappy.'

Yeah, I'm sure there's absolutely no connection between those two things.

I know right, I must be an idiot because their coverage area (my personal gripe) and how they rank of like every survey of cell service providers is contingent on %0.001 percent of users.

And to the post above me, I don't really care about this issue, I'm just fanning the flames of butthurt, but we all should care about the quality of our cell phone service (no matter which carrier), we do pay for it after all.
 
Where did the bad math guy get 50gb? The OP showed a letter regarding 20gb. And it doesn't say that 0.01% use 20GB+, It says, he's using more than 99.9% of other ATT smartphone users. He could be at the TOP using level, whereas everyone else is below him, at 5gb, 10gb, 15gb, etc...


AND, there are NOT 90 million ATT smartphone users in the USA. I doubt there are 90 million ATT smartphone owners in the world. Think smartphone users, not everyone. As of 4/22/10, 51.5 million iphones have been sold. How many of those are now broken, lost and/or deactivated? Or even unlocked and shipped overseas to be used with other carriers (which seems to be last step in every iphones life)


ATT makes a HUGE profit on data usage. They're spending multi billions a year trying to improve service on top of their overhead. What does that tell you? They can afford it. Stop with this honest Joe crap. For the prices we pay for these service plans, I don't have a problem with it at all.
 
All you can eat buffet does not mean you take home the entire buffet :)

What sucks about buffets nowadays is many prices don't include beverages. So in order to tether the beverage feature to the food feature, it's like an extra 20% of the original food price.

Difference being that you are still allotted the unlimited food feature while tethering the beverages, unlike a well known iPhone carrier's plan policy.

But will the buffet industry eventually go the way of the wireless business paradigm?
 
What sucks about buffets nowadays is many prices don't include beverages. So in order to tether the beverage feature to the food feature, it's like an extra 20% of the original food price.

Difference being that you are still allotted the unlimited food feature while tethering the beverages, unlike a well known iPhone carrier's plan policy.

But will the buffet industry eventually go the way of the wireless business paradigm?

How about when they charge like $1.95 per beverage and thats on each cup you get and not a one time unlimited refil fee.
So you get unlimited food for like $10 but the soda's cost you like $6:D
 
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