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Sadly we see this excuse from Apple fans too much. "Apple are just waiting to get it right"

What exactly have they got right recently? 3D Touch? Touch ID?

Both useful indeed but what else? Sadly Apple have become rather behind on other key features for many users. The Apple for one has the same look as it's been for past 5 years on the home screen for one
Why change a look of an OS when it works perfectly fine for the target audience?! Microsoft tried it with post Windows 7 versions and see where that got them. It's not as easy as some people would like to think.
 
Yes of course. But that's a conscious choice the user will make depending on their use case.

I'm not saying they're flawless but they're way better than the Android OEMs. Also the document thing you mentioned, there's a valid use case. You're supposed to read the document rather than scroll past to the end, isn't that a valid usability scenario?!
Hang on.. are they reading it wrong? This is pure comedy gold!!! Are you jobs reincarnated lol telling his sheep whatever he wants and they lap it up lol
 
So placing your finger on the down volume for about a second, which mutes the volume is a pain is it. Wow.is your life that busy you can't spare the time?
Question in point is usability, and placing the finger on the volume instead of a quick flick is definitely worse experience.
 
Hang on.. are they reading it wrong? This is pure comedy gold!!! Are you jobs reincarnated lol telling his sheep whatever he wants and they lap it up lol
I'm just saying its a valid use case. Why do the Android users keep thinking they're some sort of a superior species?! Certainly you sound that way.
 
Question in point is usability, and placing the finger on the volume instead of a quick flick is definitely worse experience.
I think I've heard it all now, something that takes maybe a second is a bad experience.. jesus Christ, if this is the pinnacle of ios they are in a much worse case than I ever thought...
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I'm just saying its a valid use case. Why do the Android users keep thinking they're some sort of a superior species?! Certainly you sound that way.
Not in the slightest, no one ever said that. But the difference is.. and it's a massive difference is that we have freedom of.choice. my last 4 handsets have been from different oems, I see what's out there and choose what I thinks best for me at the time. I don't just blindly follow one brand through some stupid one sided loyalty no matter how crap their product is then feel I have to.justify it by slagging of the competition who is producing some fine stuff.
When I read stuff like, the ip7 looks like a bummer but I'll buy it anyway!! Wtf. Are they holding a gun to your head. Mental.
 
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Not really, hardly any difference at all.
Nonsense. You can operate it and check its state while the phone is in your pocket.
What exactly have they got right recently? 3D Touch? Touch ID?
3D touch cannot be made essential to the UI since a lot of product don't have it. But it is already quite good, much better than what the competition rush to release to be first. I like the cursor moving with pressure.
Touch ID is really good. Much better than previous fingerprint sensor. I have one in my previous PC, it is nothing like touch ID.
Both useful indeed but what else? Sadly Apple have become rather behind on other key features for many users. The Apple for one has the same look as it's been for past 5 years on the home screen for one
No manufacturer is first in every way.
The home screen is a well designed, efficient app launcher. Other feature were added around : notification and widget into the live center, control into the control center... About the live center, it makes your widget accessible from the lock screen (if you want) and from within the apps. Its a quite good solution.
Sadly we see this excuse from Apple fans too much. "Apple are just waiting to get it right"
And we see Apple basher use argument based on hypothesis way too much, like :
What happens if Apple remove the mute button which has been rumoured at some point lately
Love it, let me guess tho, when Apple copy it 100% it will be magical. You sir are awesome lol
 
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It's used for reference purposes.
Just about every patent submitted lists prior patents and images to give the examiner a frame of reference.
Where does it say in the application that the figures are referenced from a different patent/application?

From what I see they are illustrating design of shapes, materials etc. from the Apple watch. I did not see a reference to Apple patent or application.

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The only reference is the Korean patent application and does not reference Apple patent or application.

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it's a massive difference is that we have freedom of.choice. my last 4 handsets have been from different oems, I see what's out there and choose what I thinks best for me at the time. I don't just blindly follow one brand through some stupid one sided loyalty no matter how crap their product is then feel I have to.justify it by slagging of the competition who is producing some fine stuff.
Let me parse this approach, I discount someones choice of choosing iPhone because that person might choose what's best for them. But when someone discounts my choice of choosing Android for the same reason, I fire back. That is the classical definition of 'hypocrisy'.
 
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I think I've heard it all now, something that takes maybe a second is a bad experience.. jesus Christ, if this is the pinnacle of ios they are in a much worse case than I ever thought...
Isn't ignoring blatant usability issues arrogance as well?! You'd be one of those who don't see any problems on the Android platform.

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Not in the slightest, no one ever said that. But the difference is.. and it's a massive difference is that we have freedom of.choice. my last 4 handsets have been from different oems, I see what's out there and choose what I thinks best for me at the time. I don't just blindly follow one brand through some stupid one sided loyalty no matter how crap their product is then feel I have to.justify it by slagging of the competition who is producing some fine stuff.
Freedom of choice is what makes it more messy. General population have no idea what they're buying and I say this from being an domain expert. Till date Android as a platform is crippled by these so called "choices".

I value competition and I appreciate what Google has done with Android but at the same time I see issues in both the platforms.

If anybody is a blind follower here, that would be you sir. Your username says a lot about it as well, might I add.
 
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Yes of course. But that's a conscious choice the user will make depending on their use case.

I'm not saying they're flawless but they're way better than the Android OEMs. Also the document thing you mentioned, there's a valid use case. You're supposed to read the document rather than scroll past to the end, isn't that a valid usability scenario?!

Perhaps you have never tried to read a 50-page document and then have to go back to the top / title / heading. The only way to get there is to scroll page over page.
 
Perhaps you have never tried to read a 50-page document and then have to go back to the top / title / heading. The only way to get there is to scroll page over page.
No, you can tap on the status bar to scroll to the top. The other poster was talking about scrolling to the bottom of the document, which in iOS, one can only do by scrolling pages after pages.
 
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I'm just saying its a valid use case. Why do the Android users keep thinking they're some sort of a superior species?! Certainly you sound that way.

Personally, I'm talking about the downside of the reading experience on my iPads.

And I'm sorry, but claiming that forcing a user to read through dozens of pages, is somehow a valid use case for having no other method of scrolling, is ridiculous :)

What's worse, is that many other OS makers stupidly went along with this nonsense of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, at least at first.

Where does it say in the application that the figures are referenced from a different patent/application?

I agree with you. I don't think people are right that the images reference other patents.

What I wrote the other day, is that I think the images are there as examples of wrist bands and their attachment styles, since the patent seems to be for powered accessory bands that have a universal adapter... or something along those lines.

It's like a patent for a universal windshield wiper, including images of various proprietary attachment methods from different car manufacturers.
 
I bet if they remove a feature, a better or as good of a solution will be implemented. That's what Apple as a company does better. Implement features that have actually been thought through. Not like most of the Android manufacturers, especially Samsung, that crams in features without thinking how it should be implemented to get the intended benefit out of it.
Yes like removing the headphone jack ... I'm curious what your thoughts on that are.
 
Personally, I'm talking about the downside of the reading experience on my iPads.

And I'm sorry, but claiming that forcing a user to read through dozens of pages, is somehow a valid use case for having no other method of scrolling, is ridiculous :)

What's worse, is that many other OS makers stupidly went along with this nonsense of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, at least at first.
What's the issue with reading on iPad again?!

I wasn't saying that the scrolling thing is not an issue. I'm saying they may have a perfect use case for that implementation. You need to understand that as a company they'll only implement features that appeals to most and not some. That's how development works.
 
Yes like removing the headphone jack ... I'm curious what your thoughts on that are.
Personally I don't like the removal but let's wait for the keynote before making our mind, shall we? (I'm expecting a solution, although this is not a OS specific thing and Apple is known for their let go approach with decaying tech, they did the same with FDD and DVD drives)
 
Why didn't they just sketch the Galaxy Gear then? :confused:
Exactly. At this point, anything that Samsung does that has anything to do with Apple should be considered infringement.
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Samsung does not even bother to hide the knocking off any more.
This.

Most knock off in private. Samsung is going all exhibitionist by knocking off where anyone can see!
 
Blatant attempts at misdirection by the Android fanboys here. Samsung caught copy pasting Apple designs in a patent document (whether or not they are asserting ownership of those designs is beside the point. They have their own watch they could have used for the figures in this document) and what are they talking about? "B...b..but it's hard to scroll to the bottom in ios.", "B..b..but headphone jacks", "Edge to edge displays" as though any of these have anything whatsoever to do with the topic at hand.
 
Well kinda like makes perfect sense. Asian companies such as Samsung and all chinese companies have never been about innovations, but they are great at copying.
 
Who copied? Another Samsung Haters (Apple lobbyists) propaganda. What a terrible article. The exaggeration in this post. Check out old Samsung smartwatch patents. You don't know anything. Have your authors any brain? How much is Apple paying you to say this $? I hope it is a significant amount.

The idiots thinking Apple invented smart watch (Or smartwatch designs).

Smartwatch history (The Samsung invented smart watches)

In 1999, Samsung launched the world's first Smart watch phone, the SPH-WP10. It had a protruding antenna, a monochrome LCD screen, and a 90-minutes of talk time with an integrated speaker and microphone.

2009 – The Samsung S9110 releases a smart watch that is also a phone – sporting a touchscreen, Bluetooth, a music player, and email support. Check out Samsung S9110 -http://imgur.com/qcW5X0U

The Apple smartwatch is a basic cloning of Samsung smartwatch.

First of all, Check out old Samsung smartwatch patents (Before Apple smartwatch)

Filing Date: 12/02/2014

http://imgur.com/THkIwRN

http://imgur.com/zMDkXy5

http://imgur.com/zMDkXy5

Check out the website -http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP2881842A2.html

Wait and see more information about old Samsung smartwatch patents and pics.

Also the Apple circular design is a copycat from Samsung. And the circular design has already been patented by Samsung. Who copied? Apple has been stealing other companies ideas for years Steve Jobs was the best at using other people's ideas. Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is a shameless copy company. Apple is the founding father of copying. This article seems to lack research. They want people to be misinformed.
 

This isn't working. No-one said there weren't smart watches before. The patent application from Samsung has images IDENTICAL to the Apple watch and the Apple Watch marketing materials. There is no excuse or justification for that.

PS: The Apple watch is not a circle
 
"can't innovate, my ass"
Best comment ever :)
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Who copied? Another Samsung Haters (Apple lobbyists) propaganda. What a terrible article. The exaggeration in this post. Check out old Samsung smartwatch patents. You don't know anything. Have your authors any brain? How much is Apple paying you to say this $? I hope it is a significant amount.

The idiots thinking Apple invented smart watch (Or smartwatch designs).

Smartwatch history (The Samsung invented smart watches)

In 1999, Samsung launched the world's first Smart watch phone, the SPH-WP10. It had a protruding antenna, a monochrome LCD screen, and a 90-minutes of talk time with an integrated speaker and microphone.

2009 – The Samsung S9110 releases a smart watch that is also a phone – sporting a touchscreen, Bluetooth, a music player, and email support. Check out Samsung S9110 -http://imgur.com/qcW5X0U

The Apple smartwatch is a basic cloning of Samsung smartwatch.

First of all, Check out old Samsung smartwatch patents (Before Apple smartwatch)

Filing Date: 12/02/2014

http://imgur.com/THkIwRN

http://imgur.com/zMDkXy5

http://imgur.com/zMDkXy5

Check out the website -http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP2881842A2.html

Wait and see more information about old Samsung smartwatch patents and pics.

Also the Apple circular design is a copycat from Samsung. And the circular design has already been patented by Samsung. Who copied? Apple has been stealing other companies ideas for years Steve Jobs was the best at using other people's ideas. Apple is always copying from every brand. Apple is a shameless copy company. Apple is the founding father of copying. This article seems to lack research. They want people to be misinformed.

Reality check please? Apple is the single most innovative company ever, they copy too, usually Apple implements things better than original idea, but reading your post makes me laugh so much. You are uber biased and even if you exaggerated, your definition fit Samsung quite well.
 
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