Exactly. I've found that the phrase "why don't they just..." is an almost universal indicator that whatever follows will be based on a profound lack of understanding. Hell, I've even found myself guilty of doing this.
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Reddit CEO: Apollo-Related Subreddit Blackouts 'Will Pass,' No Significant Revenue Impact So Far
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This is what I hear from my clients almost daily: "why don't you just add [something complex]? it will only take 10 minutes!"
I don't mind them being clueless; they're not tech-savvy and they're paying me to build their app/website so they can say that.
But I must say I expected more from people on a tech forum.
Yep.
Shame to see Apollo go I suppose but very precarious place to be for your entire product to be dependant on someone elses api
It would have been fine to shift things still and charge for API access. But the issue was that the cost was way too high and the notice to adapt the app structures to it was way too short. If they had come in with a reasonable plan I don't think we would be here now. But the plan they set in motion makes it clear they just want all non-official apps to go away.
It is a Personal Challenge that takes me to this moment where I am in control of which 'app' I access, and I gather my Self around the meager warmth of the Candle that shines-forth in the lovely OLED light that highlights "Reddit App (3 Notifications)" indefinitely
I think you need to go read his actual post on the subject because your comment shows you haven't. The problem was the unreasonable price and the timeline. Not the fact that they wanted to charge for the API. Christian was willing to work with them to find something that works for everyone, but reddit decided to go ham with it instead. There are subs to Apollo that was based on old costs and having to change to the new ridiculous pricing with 30 days notice was literally more than he could afford because someone who payed for a year sub to his app a month ago would be costing Selig way more money than he was earning from them. Reddit is the problem here. Not the app devs.
The official app is fine though. Sure some folks enjoyed the other third party apps but Reddit is a far more complicated feature driven product compared to Twitter which is a pretty simple product.
Twitter isn’t suffering much.
Ummm, the fact that some volunteer moderators can make inaccessible entire communities on Reddit suggests that moderators have too much power and operate like fiefdoms. Perhaps Reddit needs to take control of their website and kick the defiant moderators off the platform and return the communities they moderated to the users who aren't so picky. As a potential investor, I would shy away from buying shares of Reddit knowing that the company really doesn't control its own platform; non-employed moderators do (apparently). My two cents.
And one more thing. Reddit enacts an absurd fee for third party apps to access the site - probably knowing the third party apps won't pay the fee. 0 dollars earned. Piss off enough of your "users," so your ads are seen by less and less eyes. X amount less money earned.
Seems like a dumb way to kill a business...but what do I know?
Seems like a dumb way to kill a business...but what do I know?
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He thinks this will pass???
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun. We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per
second
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our social media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our apps? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where.
You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun. We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per
second
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our social media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our apps? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where.
You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
Yet, using the Reddit website, in a browser, is considered too much work for you? Um, okay
There is a Reddit app? I have always accessed it with a web browser.
Why would anyone need an app?
OK, maybe they are using a cell phone and the tiny screen makes a browsers interface hard to use. Get a bigger screen
"It will soon pass" is exactly the reaction I was expecting. People are easy to herd and control, have little knowledge of technical details, and also have a very short memory of news events. This will 100% work for Reddit just as Netflix saw an increase in subscribers from cracking down on password sharing.
Until people wise up to what's happening the tech company CEOs and investors will get more and more hostile to squeeze out every penny they can.
Until people wise up to what's happening the tech company CEOs and investors will get more and more hostile to squeeze out every penny they can.
There’s no way for Reddit to serve ads in 3rd party apps. They need ads to make money. they currently don’t have even close to the number of dau to be a profitable ipo. They don’t care if everyone of their current users leave, because they need to replace them by multiples
Third-party apps are willing to pay a reasonable amount to access Reddit's API. What Reddit is asking for is not a reasonable amount and would bankrupt these apps.
I have never got the appeal of Reddit - just a convoluted mess of posts. And it’s a free-for-all of bots and trolls.
May God save you from the downvotes 🫡
As I mentioned in a previous thread, I would really like to see Reddit try this, if only because I know it's going to end poorly and blow up in their faces. If Reddit could have done this, they would have done so a long time ago, and any AI solution they come up with right now is going to be a rushed job.