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I moderate a few subs on Reddit most notably for one of the major cell carriers and we have a group chat with the other cell carriers, Apple, and a few other tech-related subs and we are legit torn on this. We want to keep the subs closed because F this guy, but the amount of Mod mail we're getting every hour of people wanting in and needing help or has questions is legit tearing us apart.

Some people think Reddit mods are just trolls that sit in a corner, but some of them like myself love to help people, and seeing all the people messaging the mods needing questions answered or problems solved and not being able to get help is heartbreaking. We want to help but we also want to stand in solidarity with our other mods and the devs that have worked so hard over the years to create a better app. In the end, Spez knows we will have to open back up that's why hes being so smug about it, and just goes to show he doesn't care about the community 1 bit!
 
What's stopping Reddit from banning the insurgent mods and reopening those subreddits?
"Reddit does not offer a similar app experience for users or for moderators, who also use Apollo as a moderation tool. Subreddit moderators work for free, overseeing their respective communities with no compensation."

Who's going to moderate the now moderator-less 8k subreddits, some of them with substantial numbers of users and mods? Moderating a sub is generally a labor of love for the topic. I have zero interest in modding a sub and I assume it's the same for most other people as well. Reddit (or a forum like MR) without moderation devolves into a 4chan-like cesspit. There is a reason 4chan is not widely popular.
 
This is how you crash a company, you dig in for something that will make you money, but cost you reputation at a calculation you can not even begin to fathom. The PAO mess was a huge hit for them and it took years to fully recover. The CEO not being a true honest broker for the community of reddit is the death of them. The community is reddit, and when they say no, at this level of noise and you tripple down. Saying nah we do not care, then it implodes.
 
lmao very bold.
Also, has no one seriously brought up simply reverse engineering for unofficial endpoints and taking advantage of scraping to bypass, well, all of this?
 
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I will never understand this. Why do people work-for-free to help a company make its executives rich? Sounds like the moderators should unionize and demand compensation. That would really make Reddit pay a price for their practices, and be something that will not "pass".

They see it as a social good thinking what they do on Reddit translates to the real world.
 
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The way this kid is handling this is way worse than Elon @ Twitter.

They want your device ID so if they ban your account, your entire device is banned indefinitely, even if you try to add a new account. The only way they can do this reliably is by forcing everyone to use their ****** app.

This isn't a good day for free speech. It's about money and the IPO for sure, but I'm convinced given the hostile position Reddit takes in the political arena, it's clear they are trying to muzzle a significant portion of the world's population.
 
I will never understand this. Why do people work-for-free to help a company make its executives rich? Sounds like the moderators should unionize and demand compensation. That would really make Reddit pay a price for their practices, and be something that will not "pass".

Simple. The power fantasy of being a moderator is payment enough for these people, same for Discord and 4chan mods. If that sounds sad, that's because it is
 
We really need a Wikipedia-like open-source non-profit platform to do things like Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc.... it's just not healthy for society to have these controlled by the "Barbarians at the Gate", so to speak.
There is no right answer. What you propose would also be horrible, because society can not--on the whole--police itself, nor make life-decisions that are healthy. We are not hard-wired as a species for the internet, and probably never will be, so the only solution that would work, is to get rid of it completely. And since that isn't going to happen, it's pick your poison. Literally.
 
Me, too. But because of shame, not fear. ;)
that for the most part but I will admit I have gotten some crap when random people found out something I actively work on and they are active users of it. They complain and sometimes think I should fix something for them directly on it. Reality is there is not much I can do as a software dev in those regards as those changes are not something I have limited influence on.

That or how can you work for some XYZ company. It is not always worth it. Big time if I am not there in a non professional complicity. I don't give a crap if you are saying those things to me and I am representing the company but at the grocery store is another matter. Big time if you over heard me talking with my wife about it. It is really REALLY annoying.

No I do not work for reddit but I have work on big name products and have worked on apps that currently have millions of users. One of the former employers user base has some massive fanatics and they take it really personally. Fanatics are really scary.
 
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