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Refreshed Low-Cost iPad Said to Feature Larger Display, A14 Chip, USB-C and 5G

Stunning_Sense4712 said:
To me the lack of M1/M2 chip set makes this product a no go since their are features like stage manger where the M series chips are required to function. If the final product does not contain an M series chip I suspect Apple is doing this intentionally to drive up the sales of higher end tablets that have the M1/M2 chipsets.
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It's probably more accurate to say that the intended audience for the entry level iPads (eg: children, schools) do not need stage manager for the work that they do. I doubt anyone getting an iPad for more professional work would be settling for the base model anyways (I know I wouldn't).

It's basically effective market segmentation at work.
 
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Would like to see the display get laminated, that’s the one thing I don’t like about the budget iPad is that hollow screen feeling.
 
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polaris20 said:
Yeah, I mean who cares about the education market, right?
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The education market cannot use a base iPad that is based on the iPad Air (which itself is based on the second-gen Pro)?

Yes, I get that Apple is keeping the "cheap" iPad around for this purpose, but it is all set up to increase their profit margin at the lower end without impacting the price hike of the new device.

I remember back when Apple used to replace a product with a newer, better version at the same price point.

Now they keep the older one around at that same price point, then introduce a new and improved version at a price hike and call it "Pro" or "Air".

I mean, I'm glad they're "catering to the low-end market" somewhat, but I see how they're doing it is very clever financially for them.

Just an observation, not so much of a complaint.
 
Darth Tulhu said:
Yes, I get that Apple is keeping the "cheap" iPad around for this purpose, but it is all set up to increase their profit margin at the lower end without impacting the price hike of the new device.

I remember back when Apple used to replace a product with a newer, better version at the same price point.

Now they keep the older one around at that same price point, then introduce a new and improved version at a price hike and call it "Pro" or "Air".

I mean, I'm glad they're "catering to the low-end market" somewhat, but I see how they're doing it is very clever financially for them.
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Apple had to do something. iPad sales spiraled down after 2013. I reckon the $329 iPad was released to stop the bleed. The Pro and then the Air to increase the profits.

Honestly, around 2015-17, I kinda felt they pretty much just had the iPad Pros as testing ground for ARM Macs.
 
Darth Tulhu said:
Perhaps this new base iPad will basically be the 1st gen iPad Pro 10.5 without Pro-Motion and a newer chip, or the 3rd gen iPad Air, which is also a 10.5 inch screen.
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Problem there, they would need to keep the Lightning port for the Apple Pencil 1 if they stick to the old chassis.

If they switch to USB-C, they need the flat edges for the Apple Pencil 2
 
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Stunning_Sense4712 said:
I have an issue with your statement saying stage manager is the only feature you are going to miss out on. Since that does not even include future iPadOS updates/feature add on’s that could be disabled since it requires the performance of the M series chipsets. We are already starting to see the A series iPad chips being too anemic to power the current feature set of iPadOS to the point Apple is starting to have to disable features for a brand new out of the box product which will only get worse every software upgrade cycle.
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I wrote these recent non-M1 iPad are hardly vintage because they won’t be getting pro features like Stage Manager.

I didn’t say its the only feature they will miss out on. So yes, there will be more in the future.

And this is not the only time Apple is doing this. I have an iPhone 11 Pro. Apparently I won’t be able to use FaceID in landscape when it’s introduced in iOS 16. Should I throw out my phone now because it’s landfill?

This obsession for the latest and greatest is ridiculous.
 
rui no onna said:
Problem there, they would need to keep the Lightning port for the Apple Pencil 1 if they stick to the old chassis.

If they switch to USB-C, they need the flat edges for the Apple Pencil 2
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True, but that's why they still sell the Apple Pencil 2, no?

I know this'll never happen though.

Apple has already fallen into the stride of selling old products at their "correct" price and then upcharging for the new version for so long that it is unlikely for them to abandon that cash cow for the sake of product-line simplicity (the way Steve Jobs did when he came back to the company).
 
Abazigal said:
It's probably more accurate to say that the intended audience for the entry level iPads (eg: children, schools) do not need stage manager for the work that they do. I doubt anyone getting an iPad for more professional work would be settling for the base model anyways (I know I wouldn't).

It's basically effective market segmentation at work.
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Medical workers and airplane pilots would probably be among those doing “professional work” who disagree with you.
 
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rui no onna said:
Problem there, they would need to keep the Lightning port for the Apple Pencil 1 if they stick to the old chassis.

If they switch to USB-C, they need the flat edges for the Apple Pencil 2
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Or might as well have Apple Pencil 3 which uses another way to charge. There are 3rd party Pencil alternatives which uses semi-wireless charging interface (something like MagSafe but shaped differently).
 
The mainstream iPad 10.2 is useful to a lot of people in varying work capacities. I’ve seen them used as point-of-sale cash registers or for various other retail purposes. People can fill out credit or job applications on them. Real estate agents use them. Professional sports teams use them behind the bench. The list is endless.

I would argue the 10.2 iPad could well be more versatile than the Pro given its price point and size. I think the Pro has a more specialized target market.
 
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Darth Tulhu said:
The education market cannot use a base iPad that is based on the iPad Air (which itself is based on the second-gen Pro)?
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Sure, if they make it $329 (with a qty price break of course). That's not going to happen though. Not sure if you know, but Apple is getting their collective ass handed to it by Google, due to Chromebooks and the G Suite (or whatever it is Google is calling it this week). I don't like it, but look around. School districts don't have $500+ a student.

I do detest Chromebooks; I deal with them with my kids, and they're awful devices. But the reality is school districts, especially poor ones, will go that direction instead of Apple's.
 
Dont care much about stage manager. i use a real OS for when I need to work or multitask, iPadOS is still a chore to use for work but consumption is lovely on it. Additionally, the multitasking add ons have caused me nothing but headaches since they removed ability to turn that crap off.

What I do care about is can I at least mirror the ipad to an external monitor without the stupid vertical bars added? That cant really require a M1???
 
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