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So no M1 or M2... which means no Stage Manager according to Apple.
To me the lack of M1/M2 chip set makes this product a no go since their are features like stage manger where the M series chips are required to function. If the final product does not contain an M series chip I suspect Apple is doing this intentionally to drive up the sales of higher end tablets that have the M1/M2 chipsets.
 
No. It will not support pro features like stage manager. That’s all.
I have an issue with your statement saying stage manager is the only feature you are going to miss out on. Since that does not even include future iPadOS updates/feature add on’s that could be disabled since it requires the performance of the M series chipsets. We are already starting to see the A series iPad chips being too anemic to power the current feature set of iPadOS to the point Apple is starting to have to disable features for a brand new out of the box product which will only get worse every software upgrade cycle.
 
To me the lack of M1/M2 chip set makes this product a no go since their are features like stage manger where the M series chips are required to function. If the final product does not contain an M series chip I suspect Apple is doing this intentionally to drive up the sales of higher end tablets that have the M1/M2 chipsets.
Yes, that is quite obvious. Features such as these are always bout money and upselling
 
To me the lack of M1/M2 chip set makes this product a no go since their are features like stage manger where the M series chips are required to function. If the final product does not contain an M series chip I suspect Apple is doing this intentionally to drive up the sales of higher end tablets that have the M1/M2 chipsets.

I have the 16 dev beta running on a Pro 11”. Stage Manager kinda sucks on that small screen.

The reality is most of Apple’s millions of iPad customers won’t care about Stage Manager. If email, browsing, video streaming, social media, most apps, etc. work and the device doesn’t lag like their work-provided Windows computers do, then that’s good enough.
 
I have the 16 dev beta running on a Pro 11”. Stage Manager kinda sucks on that small screen.

The reality is most of Apple’s millions of iPad customers won’t care about Stage Manager. If email, browsing, video streaming, social media, most apps, etc. work and the device doesn’t lag like their work-provided Windows computers do, then that’s good enough.

Agree. Stage Manager also comes into its own when connected to an external display. I don’t see anyone expecting an entry level tablet to do this.
 
Weird way of spelling: one of the most popular ports in the history of the world, and still is today.
My apologies if English isn’t your first language, but it’s an idiom. Look up the phrase “dead man walking.”

“Dead” doesn’t mean it’s literally dead, (it can’t be since it was never physically alive,) but rather that if Apple’s lowest tier iPad is getting USB-C then the lightning port is done for in the sense that it’s unlike many (if any) future Apple products will be released with lightning.
 
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There’s no way people are annoyed that this iPad won’t get the M1!? You’re kidding right? It doesn’t need the M1 and nor do the people who will be buying this iPad.

It’s their entry level iPad. And that’s okay. It may just be the perfect iPad (dependent on its form factor) for me for media consumption, web browsing, note taking, and light word processing. I don’t need an M1 chip and stage manager would be nice but for what I’ll use it for I won’t miss.
 
My apologies if English isn’t your first language, but it’s an idiom. Look up the phrase “dead man walking.”

“Dead” doesn’t mean it’s literally dead, (it can’t be since it was never physically alive,) but rather that if Apple’s lowest tier iPad is getting USB-C then the lightning port is done for in the sense that it’s unlike many (if any) future Apple products will be released with lightning.
Until iPhone, the entire iPhone lineup, ditches lightning, then lightning will be shipping in dramatically more Apple products, then not. Just because you count 1 (Mac) 2 (iPad) 3 (iPhone) and think 2 is greater than 1, thats not the case at all. In terms of consumer electronic devices that are actually in active use, Lightning is still probably bigger than USB-C, or very very close behind. The sheer number of active iPhones with this port cannot be overstated. Lightning is still gigantic and will remain that way until years after Apple moves the first iPhone to USB-C.
 
Unless you can immediately bring the Air down to the 10.2’s current entry price point that won’t happen.
Yep, I understand that. It was just wishful thinking.

And the broader consumer market doesn’t need M1 or M2.
It is an excellent way for Apple to keep that upgrade/upsell path.

But I still think that iPadOS will continue to be hampered by the need to have some compatibility with these base iPads.

That said, it appears Apple will be splitting iPadOS behind the scenes (see Stage Manager), so hopefully that'll continue.

The current 10.2 iPad is not only the most popular iPad in the lineup it’s also arguably the best bang-for-the-buck tablet on the market. Not likely would Apple kill that.
Yep, I get that. It goes to show how great a product the iPad has become and how much Apple nailed in its concept.
 
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Until iPhone, the entire iPhone lineup, ditches lightning, then lightning will be shipping in dramatically more Apple products, then not. Just because you count 1 (Mac) 2 (iPad) 3 (iPhone) and think 2 is greater than 1, thats not the case at all. In terms of consumer electronic devices that are actually in active use, Lightning is still probably bigger than USB-C, or very very close behind. The sheer number of active iPhones with this port cannot be overstated. Lightning is still gigantic and will remain that way until years after Apple moves the first iPhone to USB-C.
I dont disagree with your general point. But I think you’re wildly underestimating the size of the USB C market. EVERY single manufacturer apart from Apple has pretty much moved over to the input - a move they started around 5 years ago. Lightning is second, but I bet it’s comfortably second. iPhones/standard iPad/and Apple accessories do not outnumber every single electronic device from major competitors, including laptops/iPads in Apple’s own range.

Also, Apple WILL have to make changes to its lineup by 2024. All new devices sold must have USB-C:
New flagship iPhones tend to be announced in September each year, which means Apple’s 2024 iPhone range (likely to be called the iPhone 16) will launch right as the legislation is coming into force. But the rules dictate that “there shouldn’t be products on the market that are not compliant” with the directive, says Desislava Dimitrova, a spokesperson with the European Parliament. That means Apple may want to make the changes sooner, since it would have to modify or pull older models from the market. Apple typically continues selling older models for several years at a lower price.

^ from https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/8/2...n-union-harmonized-charger-legislation-ewaste

Lightning is on borrowed time pretty much from this point on.
 
Until the base iPad gets M1 and the 8GB of RAM that comes with it, these will be the least common denominator that holds iPadOS back from being the best it can be.

Apple, PLEASE.

Put these things to bed already and make the Air the base iPad.
Yeah, I mean who cares about the education market, right?
 
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My apologies if English isn’t your first language, but it’s an idiom. Look up the phrase “dead man walking.”

“Dead” doesn’t mean it’s literally dead, (it can’t be since it was never physically alive,) but rather that if Apple’s lowest tier iPad is getting USB-C then the lightning port is done for in the sense that it’s unlike many (if any) future Apple products will be released with lightning.
I think "Lightning port is a dead-end" gets the point across better than "The lightning port is dead".
 
I would not be surprised if they boost the price to $429 and add the M1 as the Pro models/Air go with the M2.
I would be. Low cost comes from economies of scale. Low cost comes from using the Axx chip shared with the iPhone as the product bearing the most R&D cost of the chip.
 
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