How do you know?
Multiple long term industry contacts and friends in Cupertino, most directly involved in the projects.
And where do you get your theory from?
How do you know?
I got my theory - which I never claimed is anything but that, yet which I still hold as being very likely even if some engineers moved over...
the story about pulling developers from OS 10.5 to have them work on the iPhone was pure distraction that everyone swallowed hook, line, and sinker.
Never mind that the 8-core Mac Pro came out some time around April, I can't help thinking that this is "Life of Brian" logic (witches float, she floats, therefore she's a witch, let's burn her).![]()
Well, at least Apple is being honest. They could just repackage them and sell as new like some manfacs do.
I bought a new Toshiba (checked the tape) from CC a few months ago and the screen was scratched up with fingerprints on it. Obviously not new.
Nice, but still would want to have it brand new, with the smell and so... but big price change.
So you'd pay $100 more for the smell?![]()
Um, you might wanna rephrase that - all refurbished products only have 90 day warranty. Including the iPhone.
Scratch that- 90 day telephone support is what I saw. They have the 1 year limited warranty..
For the record, refurb apple gear is INDISTINGUISHABLE from the new products.
Usually, and that's why I'm suspicious that sometimes it's just a way to clear out old models. But for example I bought a refurb G5 a couple of years ago that had dirt smudges and fingerprints all over it, in fact it had twice as much RAM installed as it was supposed to have. I'm also guessing that one of the problems was that its DVD drive didn't read and write consistently, because I finally got tired of installing things from other machines over my network and replaced it, and everything's fine now.
Does that mean you're taking a chance with refurb machines? Probably not, because problems can - and in this case did - occur with new machines too. However, intermittent problems like funky DVD drives ($35 and two minutes to fix, once I got around to it) are very hard for the refurbishing techs to catch, especially when you think about how fast they must be working.
In this case I saved several hundred dollars, so it was well worth it.
I have no way of proving this, but I am convinced that the majority of Apple refurbished products are indeed new. I have been an Apple buyer since 1995 and about 25% of our purchases have been refurbished. No one can tell the difference between new and refurbished. I think it is just a way for Apple to dump inventory without slashing prices. Apple is very clever and under no circumstances to they want to reduce the value of the Mac product.
My refurb 4gb iphone shipped yesterday and today Steve drops the price by a $100. Now the 8gb refurb costs less than the refurb 4gb I just bought. I called fedex and had them do return to sender so I wouldnt have to wait for it to be delivered and be charged additional shipping charges.
I'm in the same boat. I'm gonna try exchanging it at my local Apple Store when it comes in.
I just called and they gave me the $150 credit to my credit card (takes 3-5 business days to show). So I had Fedex undo the return to sender. Seeing that I paid more than $300 for my crackberry and the the 8gb is only $50 more I think I will give the 4gb to the Mrs. and get an 8gb for myself.
Thanks APPLE!
Now if we can only get a software only unlock....