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My statement is correct. If your company bought refurb products from Apple, then resold them, they were no longer classified as refurbs, but as used. If your company sold an item 2 months after they bought it from Apple, it would only have 10 months of warranty remaining, because the warranty period begins when Apple sells the product. Apple has never authorized another reseller to sell Apple Certified Refurbished Products.

Items that a customer returns for any reason can be refurbished. They are not sold as new. Many refurb products were never actually used by the customer. There's no way to know on a particular unit whether it was used or not. If the battery has cycles on it, it could indicate it was used, or it could indicate cycles were put on it during testing. If you get a unit with no cosmetic indications, you pretty much can't tell if it was ever used. That's the great thing about refurbs: it's like buying a brand new product.

That isn't the case though. They had a full one year warranty, and were sold as refurbished, not used.
 
That isn't the case though. They had a full one year warranty, and were sold as refurbished, not used.
Apple has never authorized any 3rd party to sell Apple Certified Refurbished Products. Your information is not correct. If you can prove otherwise, please do so.
So do all refurb products come with very low battery cycle counts or does it vary?
They all come with low cycle counts. Some zero, some in the range of around 2-7 or so. For Macs with high cycle counts, they would replace the battery as part of the refurb process.
 
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Apple has never authorized any 3rd party to sell Apple Certified Refurbished Products. Your information is not correct. If you can prove otherwise, please do so.

Go ahead and watch the "Special deals" section at www.powermax.com. Unfortunately, they don't have any at the moment.

I purchased my first MacBook Pro while I was working there. It was definately refurbished, and it definately had a full 1 year warranty. We had pallets and pallets of different items at the time, but we didn't get them very often. It is entirely possible that it was a rare situation.

I'm not going to go on and argue with you about this, although I will say one last thing. There are almost always exceptions to every rule. Apple may have "never" sold refurbs through a third party, except for the few times that they did.
 
Not necessarily.

Last week I bought a brand new, late 2011 15" MBP, 2.2GHz, stock stuff for $1499, free shipping, no sales tax from bhphotovideo.com. They threw in a free copy of Parallels, AppleCare for half price ($120), a 256G Crucial M4 SSD for $179 and (although I didn't buy it) 8G Crucial RAM for $45.

I couldn't find that deal through refurb.
i seen that deal and i bought one, im going to return the refurb that i bought which should be coming tommorow
 
Im torn at the mo because I can get this refurb for £979

Refurbished MacBook Pro 2.8GHz Dual-core Intel i7

Originally released October 2011
13.3-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit glossy widescreen display, 1280-by-800 resolution
4GB (2 x 2GB) of 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
750GB Serial ATA @ 5400 rpm
8x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3 SDRAM


Or this brand new for £939

13-inch: 2.5 GHz
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
4GB 1600MHz memory
500GB 5400-rpm hard drive1
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Built-in battery (7 hours)2

But the only person I know whos bought a refurb macbook, the logic board fried 2 days after the warranty ran out and cost him £700

Im torn between larger hard drive, slightly faster processor or better graphics card, faster ram and turbo boost on processor
 
My refurb early 2011 17 inch came in the mail yesterday and like a couple other posters here it did not come with an Apple box. It had 5 battery cycles on it and absolutely no dings, dents, or scratches.

In case anyone is wondering mine came with Lion and has the Mission Control/Launchpad buttons instead of Expose/Dashboard.
 
My late 2011 17" refurb I got last week was most likely brand new stock as it had 1 cycle on the battery and was in the proper retail box. If you buy models immediately after they are discontinued I imagine there is a good chance you will get unsold new stock.
 
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