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hexagenia

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Thanks for the prodding, when I was already leaning ; > Got myself the S2 SS SB for $469. Can't wait till it arrives.

Have a great holidays everyone!
 

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bibigon

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Got a refurb Series 2, and it has a few dead pixels in the corner. Any idea how they'll handle this if I bring it in now that they're out of stock on refurbs? Just give me a refund and send me on my way?
 

raqball

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Got a refurb Series 2, and it has a few dead pixels in the corner. Any idea how they'll handle this if I bring it in now that they're out of stock on refurbs? Just give me a refund and send me on my way?

Yup, refund and send you on the way... That sucks! I have one coming tomorrow that's going to be a Christmas gift for someone. I was hoping they actually checked these refurb's ahead of time but maybe not?
 

Dodgeman

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That's kind of cool.
Anyhow though looking now they only have the all Stainless.
In my eyes when I'm spending that type of money what's another $90 but that's in my eyes.
 

raqball

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$90 plus tax on that $90 = pretty close to $100... That's quite a decent price cut on a newly released item.. My main reason for going with the refurb is that it's a Christmas gift for someone and the 42mm SS watches are nowhere to be found anywhere in the USA...

I've been looking for over a week and no luck but they were available as refurb's with free overnight shipping so I snagged one...
 

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Got a refurb Series 2, and it has a few dead pixels in the corner. Any idea how they'll handle this if I bring it in now that they're out of stock on refurbs? Just give me a refund and send me on my way?

Correct. You will have to send the watch out. They can either refund you or send you a refurbished Watch out when they have one in stock.
 

Vihzel

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I picked up my refurbished Apple Watch from FedEx yesterday, and am overall pleased with the watch! The screen is flawless, but there were some scratches on the stainless steel in some areas. I thought Apple would polish those out, but eh... I just polished them myself with a Cape Cod polishing cloth and buffed them with a microfiber cloth.

Something I was kind of surprised by, however, was that cleaning doesn't seem to be part of the refurbishment process. There were some remnants of dead skin cells right around the ceramic heart rate sensor that I washed and wiped off. I'm sure veteran Apple Watch owners know what I'm talking about. The white sport band was nice and clean; no indication of wear or dirt could be found.

Also, the charger was brand new, although I don't use it since I have the Apple charging dock.

After a quick cleaning and polishing + buffing, the refurbished AW looks as good as the one I was wearing. Now I'll be returning the other watch to Apple and get $100 back in my account!
 

tblrsa

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Jan 14, 2010
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Is it still worth to purchase a refurbished S1 or will I be left out of new Apps in the future?

I want to try the watch to accompany my new iPhone 7. Should I better grab the S2 instead? I have not followed the App Development for the watch closely, so I don't know how fast they will move on. What do you think?
 

chuyn

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Is it still worth to purchase a refurbished S1 or will I be left out of new Apps in the future?

I want to try the watch to accompany my new iPhone 7. Should I better grab the S2 instead? I have not followed the App Development for the watch closely, so I don't know how fast they will move on. What do you think?
S1 has a dual-core like the S2. It's missing GPS, brighter screen, and isn't as water resistant. Unless you're asking about a 1st gen Watch (what people also refer to as series 0)?
 
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raqball

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Yup... ^^^^^

-- The Series 2 has a 2x brighter screen
-- The Series 2 has GPS
-- The Series 2 is waterproof so you can swim with it

If you plan on using it outdoors in bright sunlight, or if you plan on swimming, or if you want to use it as a stand alone workout device (no need to lug phone with you) then go with the Series 2.. If none of those are important to you then the Series 1 is a fine choice as well...
 

tblrsa

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Jan 14, 2010
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Thanks for your answers, S0 is out of the question. So with S2 I could use Runkeeper or Google/Apple Maps w/o having my phone with me?

When is the next generation of the watch to be expected?
 

Archer1440

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I got the S2 earlier this week. The only problem I've encountered is I now find my S0 to be utterly unusable by comparison. I had been planning to keep it as a travel backup, but the performance difference is so enormous that I quickly lost patience with the older unit.

First world problems to be sure.
 

raqball

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The refurb SS series 2 that I ordered as a Christmas gift for someone came today and I gave it a quick inspection..

Everything looks fine on the watch itself but a few things to note:

1. Came in a long box and not the standard SS box. This box is bland and cheap looking. Not impressed at all!
2. Did not come with a charging brick or cable (seriously Apple?) inside
3. Packaging is very basic and you don't get the wow factor you get with the new version, unboxing wise that is

Is it worth saving $90 ($100 including tax)? Maybe, probably.... I would have liked Apple to ship in the same box the SS comes in and not in a bland generic one.

I have several power bricks laying around so I took a brand new and unused one from my iPhone SE box and quickly went to the Apple Store to get a charging cable. Tossed these in the refurb box with the watch and wrapped it up! Good thing I inspected it before wrapping it up!

Called Apple to complain about the missing power brick and charging cable and they are sending them to me in the mail. She said that since they goofed up she was going to toss a Magnetic Charging Dock in for free..

Score a minus 1 for the missing parts but score a plus 2 for Apple taking care of it quickly and easily..
 
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democracyrules

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The refurb SS series 2 that I ordered as a Christmas gift for someone came today and I gave it a quick inspection..

Everything looks fine on the watch itself but a few things to note:

1. Came in a long box and not the standard SS box. This box is bland and cheap looking. Not impressed at all!
2. Did not come with a charging brick or cable (seriously Apple?) inside
3. Packaging is very basic and you don't get the wow factor you get with the new version, unboxing wise that is
The bland and basic simple packaging and accessories are expected for all Apple refurbished products. So, if you ever purchase any refurbished apple products, you would totally understand their refurbished packaging. Please ensure you check thoroughly the watch condition as one of the poster noted the received watch had some scratches or minor defects, as Apple appears not replacing any minor scratches or comestic issues. I hope the gift recipient would be totally pleased :)
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S1 has a dual-core like the S2. It's missing GPS, brighter screen, and isn't as water resistant. Unless you're asking about a 1st gen Watch (what people also refer to as series 0)?
Agree with the above comment as it is correct.
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Yup... ^^^^^

-- The Series 2 has a 2x brighter screen
-- The Series 2 has GPS
-- The Series 2 is waterproof so you can swim with it

If you plan on using it outdoors in bright sunlight, or if you plan on swimming, or if you want to use it as a stand alone workout device (no need to lug phone with you) then go with the Series 2.. If none of those are important to you then the Series 1 is a fine choice as well...
Agree with the above comment as it is correct.
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I picked up my refurbished Apple Watch from FedEx yesterday, and am overall pleased with the watch! The screen is flawless, but there were some scratches on the stainless steel in some areas. I thought Apple would polish those out, but eh... I just polished them myself with a Cape Cod polishing cloth and buffed them with a microfiber cloth.

Something I was kind of surprised by, however, was that cleaning doesn't seem to be part of the refurbishment process. There were some remnants of dead skin cells right around the ceramic heart rate sensor that I washed and wiped off. I'm sure veteran Apple Watch owners know what I'm talking about. The white sport band was nice and clean; no indication of wear or dirt could be found.

Also, the charger was brand new, although I don't use it since I have the Apple charging dock.

After a quick cleaning and polishing + buffing, the refurbished AW looks as good as the one I was wearing. Now I'll be returning the other watch to Apple and get $100 back in my account!
Excellent post above!! Thank you for sharing. For all refurbished item buyers need to be informed about this.
 

raqball

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The bland and basic simple packaging and accessories are expected for all Apple refurbished products. So, if you ever purchase any refurbished apple products, you would totally understand their refurbished packaging. Please ensure you check thoroughly the watch condition as one of the poster noted the received watch had some scratches or minor defects, as Apple appears not replacing any minor scratches or comestic issues. I hope the gift recipient would be totally pleased :)

I've never bought refurbished before and usually buy new. In this instance, refurbished was the only way to get one since they are out of stock everywhere.. The packaging is without a doubt bland and cheap... I honestly expected more from the packaging / presentation but it is what it is...

The watch looked fine from what I could tell. I did not want to unwrap it from it's packing so I just did a quick inspection.. It will be closely checked out on the 25th but from what I could tell, it should be fine..
 
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I picked up my refurbished Apple Watch from FedEx yesterday, and am overall pleased with the watch! The screen is flawless, but there were some scratches on the stainless steel in some areas. I thought Apple would polish those out, but eh... I just polished them myself with a Cape Cod polishing cloth and buffed them with a microfiber cloth.

Something I was kind of surprised by, however, was that cleaning doesn't seem to be part of the refurbishment process. There were some remnants of dead skin cells right around the ceramic heart rate sensor that I washed and wiped off. I'm sure veteran Apple Watch owners know what I'm talking about. The white sport band was nice and clean; no indication of wear or dirt could be found.

Also, the charger was brand new, although I don't use it since I have the Apple charging dock.

After a quick cleaning and polishing + buffing, the refurbished AW looks as good as the one I was wearing. Now I'll be returning the other watch to Apple and get $100 back in my account!

That's interesting. I actually thought Apple replaces the casing on the Apple Watch models when they are refurbished. And for them not to have cleaned it thoroughly where you found remnants of somebody else wearing it, it's slightly disgusting. But it sounds like you had a good attitude and cleaned it and polished it yourself. But I was under the impression, that Apple does replace the casing and screen for refurbished model. Apparently not.
 

steve217

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Nov 11, 2011
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Is it still worth to purchase a refurbished S1 or will I be left out of new Apps in the future?

I want to try the watch to accompany my new iPhone 7. Should I better grab the S2 instead? I have not followed the App Development for the watch closely, so I don't know how fast they will move on. What do you think?

The Target sale is a great opportunity to get into Apple Watches. $70 off the regular price for a Series 1 is a pretty good deal.
 

democracyrules

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The Target sale is a great opportunity to get into Apple Watches. $70 off the regular price for a Series 1 is a pretty good deal.
Series 1 is not recommended if water resistant is important. Series 3 is coming approximately by Fall 2017 or March /April 2018 and Apple usually releases new version with some improvements.
 
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steve217

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Series 1 is not recommended if water resistant is important. Series 3 is coming soon approximately by March or April and Apple usually releases new version with some improvements.

Given that it took 18 months to go from Gen 1 (Series 0) to Gen 2 (Series 1 and 2), you really think that Gen 3 will be out next Spring? I agree that Apple will improve the watch internals, I just don't agree with your timing.

Each persons purchase decision will be different but what hooked me was the Target sale price point. In addition to the $70 off they were offering an additional 10% if you bought on-line and picked up in-store (discount no longer valid).

With those prices, I was able to get a 38mm for the missus for $180 and a 42mm for me for $206. The cheaper Series 1 will give me a couple of years to determine if an AW is a good fit for me and my wife for less than the price of a single Series 2 ($400).

At the end of a Series 1 lifespan, if AW and me are sympatico, then the electronics should be more worthy of the case materials (SS and Sapphire) and I'll take a deeper plunge and upscale the watch.
 
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democracyrules

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Given that it took 18 months to go from Gen 1 (Series 0) to Gen 2 (Series 1 and 2), you really think that Gen 3 will be out next Spring? I agree that Apple will improve the watch internals, I just don't agree with your timing.
I understand your disagreement :) Please refer to below article.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/a...ours-display-wishlist-september-2017-3647016/
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I'm seriously considering getting one, but I don't want to bite too soon if there will be a new one in the Spring.
I should have mentioned Spring 2018 or Fall 2017, please refer to below article:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/a...ours-display-wishlist-september-2017-3647016/
 
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