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Remeber that the "S" iphones are only minor updates
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I proably will not even notice the 64bit. I know that the 5s will be faster but as i said not know the diffrence from 32bit to 64bit
If you think a 64 bit processor and a fingerprint sensor are minor I'd hate to be your significant other.
That was quite the leap you made there. Do tell me how 64 bit is going to enhance your life with the 5S. Also, the fingerprint sensor has potential, but currently has a very limited application (it can basically make two specific tasks easier).
Really? Cause I have a 5 and I am upgrading. I may not be in the majority but the jump in specs plus the FP sensor and better battery is enough to make me jump in. But I am cross upgrading as I do every year...my wife gets my old phone and I get the latest gold standard every year.
The fact that a 64 bit processor exists on a phone (for the first time ever) is a huge leap in efficiency in the actual usage of the phone. The fingerprint sensor has massive applications as well
Specifically tell me how 64 bit will impact you, because I don't believe it will. And replacing a passcode on the lock screen and App Store are "massive applications?"
but what is your guess that the fingerprint scanner doesn't gain functionality in the next year? id say the odds of no new functionality is zero. just a passcode app that launches only off of the fingerprint scanner would be huge. and surely that is coming in short order.
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exactly. and if you don't have someone to hand down to there is always resale. I will be upgrading on contract and selling my unlocked 5 for a net nice chunk of change. next year I may sell my 5s 32gb and buy an unlocked 6. sure that will net probably cost me 300$. but thw year after that I will be getting cash back on a new subsidized phone.
upgrading is easy on iphones as long as they continue to bold there value.
As long the resell value of iphones hold, the question is if happy with your carrier and plan. Most time selling the year old iphone more covers upgrade as long dont mind renewing contract. Sold my 5 64 g with apple care for 600 through CL. More than covers most of the 399 plus 250. Like need come up with like 100 bucks or so.
Not saying its the best way, but always have a new phone.
Not saying its the best way, but always have a new phone.
Sure, but those who have a 5 and trash the 5S as being a "worthless update" are being very idiocentric. Obviously for those who have a 4S the 5S is a massive upgrade, and for those with a 5 who see the value it's a nice step up as well. There really isn't any reason though for people who have the 5 to trash the next generation upgrade, all that does is create hostility among those who want the 5S.
I'm quite sure developers have no access to the fingerprint sensor - no API or anything. So any expansion near hand would be all of Apple's doing.
You obviously didn't read my post. Go back and read post #48, then get back to us. Just because you don't aesthetically see any improvements doesn't mean that they aren't massive or major. You totally aren't getting the bigger picture.
BL.
You my friend are a TRUE believer. Unfortunately as much as I like Apple, am more realistic.
No. Just no. You have been highly misinformed.
As long as ios runs on ARM and osx runs on x86, there will be no app that will run natively on both ios and osx.
If things are as you say, why are there no 32bit apps on osx that will also run on ios?
I have a 5 and I'm not updating. I'm holding out for an iPhone 6. Makes no sense. Maybe if I had an android I might be more willingly to switch every year because of the fragmentation, maybe, but definitely not an iPhone.
I didn't read that anywhere. It is based on my experience with 64/32bit software on the desktop. 32bit vs 64bit windows? No noticeable difference until you require more than 4gb of ram - which is at least a couple generations away on iDevices.
Misinformed? Sure about that?
http://www.zdnet.com/why-apple-went-64-bit-with-the-iphone-5s-7000020662/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424300,00.asp
http://www.cocoachina.com/cms/uploads/soft/130911/4196-130911095Z1.pdf
Every 32bit OS has had the same 4GB memory mapping limit, excluding some Unixes, and Linux. That was overcome with the onset of 64bit OSes, OS X included, and now, iOS.
From the 3rd link:
It may be easier than you think. So you may be a bit misinformed.
From the 2nd link:
Like I said, there is a lot more under the hood that people aren't seeing, that is a major improvement, and paving the way for what could be even bigger things.
BL.
True. But, if it is as you say, then all Apple would have to do make a build of OS X that could run on ARM or a build of iOS that could run on Intel, right?
Weren't there rumors that Apple was looking at bringing ARM to the Mac?
What about those features of iOS that were brought over to the OS X...?
Please tell me I'm not crazy for thinking so. :|
Never said anything about the 4gb limit to you. I'm fully aware that 64 bit removes that, see post 68.
This is the specific line that I have issue with - which happens to be your major point.
Moving to 64bit does not in any way allow for this. Like I said before, if this was possible, it would have been already done with 32bit apps, as 64bit operating systems can run 32bit apps all day.
The problem is that iOS is ARM and OS X is x86. It is impossible to run the same native code when you have different architectures - hence the need for a VM as mentioned in your 2nd link. Needing a VM is exactly the opposite of having "compatibility and portability from desktop to mobile."
BTW iOS apps are already run in OS X with the use of an VM.
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I'm looking forward to reading all these types of posts again when the iPhone 6s is released.
We have 4 iPhones in our family so I get the new one each year and pass down the last generation. So I will be going from the 5 to 5s. It will be interesting to see if the new chip handles the new operating system better than the 5. May not be any difference but thats something that hasn't been seen yet.