USB-C with Thunderbolt and OSX. Docks, mice, keyboards, drives, eGPUs and monitors stay on the desks.
Last edited:
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Removal of iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Was Essential for Water Resistance, New Camera System
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
So, let me get this straight. You're saying that your experience in your vehicle is representative of the vast majority of people with vehicles?
Last edited:
It's about courage. And bravery. And being modern. And advancing.
And yet I am so glad that my iPhone has a headphone jack and my apple laptop has multiple USB ports!
And yet I am so glad that my iPhone has a headphone jack and my apple laptop has multiple USB ports!
I'm still on a 2012 MacBook Pro with a matte finish screen that doesn't act as a mirror, usb ports, removable RAM, Battery, optical disc drive, etc. etc. etc....
But somehow all this new crippled CRAP that apple is releasing is supposed to be better? LOL... what a joke this company has become.
Your Apple laptop that probably lacks:
- Ethernet
- ExpressCard
- DisplayPort 1.3
- eSATA
Because with USB-C, you can:
1) Simultaneously charge and listen to audio over wired headphones/speakers, and
2) Use a connector that others are adopting, instead of Apple's proprietary Lightning, and thereby be able to plug your listening device into many different source devices without needing an adapter. (Aka, what you're able to do with 3.5 mm devices now.)
I don't mind the removal of the headphone port. I prefer wireless headphones and have for a couple of years. But those AirPods look ridiculous. And 5 hours of playback time is pathetic. Good thing I don't have to buy them and can use one of the hundreds of other options available. Assuming I even buy the iPhone 7, which at this point I am leaning towards doing depending on what the next Nexus/Google phone is.
I don't know what Mac you have, but your Gen 3 iPad and Playstation won't take USB-C either, right?
USB to Lightning is pretty straight forward-- I'd expect the eventual USB-C to Lightning to be much the same:
https://www.amazon.com/OriDecor-Lightning-Converters-Transfer-Compatible/dp/B01E93RBTG/
Small, and 5 for $9, 10 for $17.
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
LOL, just an opinion. Maybe your glass is always half empty and people who are truly mad often have an aversion to change. Sound familiar to you?
I really wouldn't call that neutral, it's obviously negative, as you pointed out in your lengthy post.
Has there been a solution yet for that problem: you can't charge your phone while you're listening to music with the lightning buds? No, I'm not talking about the $150 solution called the Airpods.
How do I charge my phone and listen to music with my headphones at the same time? Do I have to buy a pair of wireless headphones to accomplish this now?
And the air pods have 5hrs of music playback? I do 8hrs a day as my job requires it and having my phone attached to headphones and charging is the easiest way for me.... I guess my 6s Plus better last awhile, when if finally goes I'll hope for better Wireless battery life or I'll have to move on I guess
And the air pods have 5hrs of music playback? I do 8hrs a day as my job requires it and having my phone attached to headphones and charging is the easiest way for me.... I guess my 6s Plus better last awhile, when if finally goes I'll hope for better Wireless battery life or I'll have to move on I guess
I have no problems with Apple removing the jack as I've been using BT in-ear for the past year. My problem is those damn AirPods. They are hard plastic and just as uncomfortable as it's wired predecessor. I'm surprised Apple didn't take a cue from Bragi and come out with something similar but improved. I think Apple dropped the ball on this one.
Can someone explain why I keep seeing this repeated over and over like it means something special in this context? DAC specifically means "digital to analog converter"-- so even the name means analog comes out. We look at digital photos with our analog eyes, we listen to digital music with analog ears, we use a digital thermometer to measure our analog temperature, I'm an analog kid on a digital forum... None of this represents a tear in the fabric of the universe or anything-- why do people keep saying it?
Ceramic iPhone would be awesome. Tough, scratch resistant, light and beautiful.
Changing your habits around using your operating system and app and entire ecosystem sounds like a lot of work just to save changing your habits around using a headphone jack.
No I honestly don't care what they do. It's just a headphone jack. I'll probably hope something cool comes out that uses the lightning connector as an amplifier and has better sound. But it's not something I'll ever lose sleep over or comment on... doh!
You both don't get what I was talking about. I said I would never buy a pair of lightning earphones because they're not going to be compatible with anything else.
Yes, there's a dongle -- which goes from Analog (female) -> Lightning (male). In order to use lightning earphones with any other device on the planet, you'd need a Lightning (female) -> Analog (male) adaptor.
Also, there is no reasonable expectation that Lightning will ever be natively supported on any non-Apple device. USB-C and Thunderbolt are available and being used in non-Apple devices today.
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
But there is several reasons.... Apple has already stated them. Whether you believe them or not, i cannot know or convince you otherwise.
[doublepost=1473306801][/doublepost]
ok, that's a reasonable request, I have no answer, but I'm sure something will come up.
Wow. This one just never dies does it?
Unless you are an android, your ears can ONLY hear analog. This is not really a debate about digital vs. analog. Whether the sound comes out of a 3.5mm headphone jack or the adapter, it is analog when it gets to your ears. We cannot hear digital music without conversion to analog.
If you ARE an android, forgive me. But you are the exception... I think(better check the latest batch of memos).
And if pretty much ALL of you are androids, forgive me. No wonder there is such passion for this change. I'm unfortunately a lowly human with biological ears that can't hear the music delivered as a bitstream of 1s & 0s. Your offense at my personal opinions as a human consumer makes perfect sense to me now.
Nice rant, but I'm just talking about the connector. Unless you're listening to vinyl all the time I don't see what your beef is with digital signals.
[doublepost=1473307077][/doublepost]
you troll?
Agreed. This isn't like the removal of the floppy drive or the DVD drive. It's a hostile decision forcing you to use a proprietary cable with this phone. If you want to use your expensive headphones that you can use on nearly any other audio device on the planet, you have bring a dongle, which you can lose. It seems so far from the beautiful and elegant engineering that brought me into the Apple universe. Protruding cameras that stick out even farther than before, no headphone jack. No thank you. The first year I don't buy a new iPhone. I hope that if you're as unhappy about this decision as I am, you will do the same.