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Removal of iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Was Essential for Water Resistance, New Camera System
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Phil Schiller looked positively terrified on stage when he was trying to justify the removal of a port which is used so often and by so many.
The bottom line is that this is ideological. The water proofing line is a nonsense as Samsung make water proof phones with headphone jacks and no bezels. To make the camera better? Who cares, just make the phone bigger if you need to, I use the headphone jack vastly more than I ever do a crappy phone camera.
This is going to push people away, including me. Even if I had a pair of bluetooth headphones I'd still be upset about this, as my car requires both the headphone jack and the lightning port at the same time for GPS. My next phone, which won't be for a few years at least, will most likely be something Android.
The bottom line is that this is ideological. The water proofing line is a nonsense as Samsung make water proof phones with headphone jacks and no bezels. To make the camera better? Who cares, just make the phone bigger if you need to, I use the headphone jack vastly more than I ever do a crappy phone camera.
This is going to push people away, including me. Even if I had a pair of bluetooth headphones I'd still be upset about this, as my car requires both the headphone jack and the lightning port at the same time for GPS. My next phone, which won't be for a few years at least, will most likely be something Android.
I won't miss it - I applaud this change ! - I can't believe how many folks are flipped out about losing this prehistoric audio jack to the lightning jack - and I don't I've EVER changed and listed to headphones at the same time. - although I can see how some might at work/desk.
and I'm tired of the cable - can't wait to hear what the airpods sound like. hopefully they won't compress the hell out of the signal.
and I'm tired of the cable - can't wait to hear what the airpods sound like. hopefully they won't compress the hell out of the signal.
You must've missed the part where there are 1 billion iOS devices, and thus the largest market for any headphones maker in the world. If you think only "crappy" headphones are going to be made for it, you completely misunderstand business, period.
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No, they're not, but I expect the trolls like you to try. So keep going.
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Yes it is. It's a tired lazy old low-quality means of getting audio from one place to another. In home theater in other applications this Jack was replaced along time ago. This part of mobile devices and other electronics has stagnated. Repeat stagnated. I sincerely appreciate Apple moving beyond outdated tech and not compromising the design of the device to include something that the pundits and whiners can't fathom losing.
Because many use the supplied wired headphones and don't need to buy anything different. Don't presume it means everyone's buying Bluetooth headphones now.
First, iPhone 4s was released 5 years ago, not six. Second, I don't you actually understand the definition of masochistic.
iPhone SE uses the old original Touch ID, not the kind in current devices. It also uses a bunch of other lesser tech and misses newer tech. It's a dud.
If everyone upgraded annually, in multiples, the planet would be more damaged than it is. My reasons for not upgrading due to the environmental impact are entirely valid.
Everything works well here. I might update next year if a ceramic clean no protruding no antenna line new design is released but only if it's in a 4" form factor.
There's no reason to upgrade to iPhone 6 series 3 (also known by its marketing slogan iphone 7, the one without a headphone jack, the glossy black one that scratches easily according to the Apple website).
I believe a test done recently (Consumer Reports?) showed they are not. All of the units they tested failed under water. Like the waterproof Sony I saw someone show off until it packed up. I think these other companies over promise and take the hit on returns. Probably gamble net increase in sales makes it pay. A waterproof phone would make most relax about it more, but not actually dunk it deliberately.
I notice Apple still only claim water resistance, not waterproof. Isn't the rating the same, though, as claimed by others as waterproof?
I'm not trolling. Just because you don't like my frank observation doesn't give you the right to call me a troll.
Apple gave a handful of stupid reasons to remove the jack, none of which are correct.
It’s old and antiquated -- not a reason.
It takes up too much space -- no it really doesn't. Those antenna bands that run around the unit take up more space. That SIM tray takes up more space.
It’s hard to waterproof things with holes in it -- Yet many devices are water tight with holes in them.
These reasons are all rubbish.
Sorry, doesn't your argument mean Apple should have put an Ethernet port on the iPhone?
You're saying wireless is better than wired? Give me an example where wireless is more stable, faster and cheaper than the wired equivalent it replaced? Wireless is always a convenience, not an improvement over wired.
Wired audio has stagnated because it works. It serves a purpose, and it's CHEAP. We still use light bulbs, too, and how old are those?
In case you weren't aware, bluetooth butchers audio quality. Low bitrates that can't reproduce HD quality music without the help of products like aptX, and Apple couldn't even include THAT to be compatible with hundreds of speakers and headphones ALREADY on the market. Look it up -- AptX.
Wireless isn't better audio than wired audio, just more convenient (if you call needing batteries and increased failures more convenient).
Exactly my problem. Happens very often when I am on trips that I am listening to music or watching a movie while charging. And no... not with these AirBuds... with real and good(!) closed headphones.
I also know quite a few people with the same "problem".
And if it is only to connect the phone the traditional way to a stereo or a PA system to play some music. To carry that adapter around with you all the time would be simply stupid.
The headphone jack was and is still for many years to come an industry standard. To leave it away is insane... I know now that I'll keep my iPhone as long as possible. And if they are not coming up with a viable solution or bring back the headphone jack, it was my last one...
Again, BILLIONS of people use wired headphones EVERYDAY. I don't really care for your excuses. I've seen enough of your posts to know your agenda. It's not even CLOSE to being a cassette tape.
Why is USB-C an acceptable alternative to you when the lightning port isn't? Are you expecting multiple USB-C ports on a phone? Maybe Samsung would do something crazy like that, but not Apple. The lightning port is already capable of handling data/audio and power simultaneously. I see it everyday when I plug into car play. I suspect it will take just a month or two before someone comes out with an iPhone dock that has a lightning connection and dedicated audio jack. There will likely be adapters that do the same, for those that need to charge and listen to music at the same time and baulk at wireless for whatever reason.
In terms of a viable, non-proprietary alternative, you already have that with Bluetooth today. Add to that the availability of adapters (you get one for free and others are only $10) and its obvious your not locked into any ecosystem. Frankly, if price or a tightly knit ecosystem are concerns of yours, you have the wrong company to begin with.
He's saying that because they removed the headphone jack, if they hadn't, he wouldn't be saying that. It's clear his agenda.
Old and antiquated IS a reason, if something much better is available. What was wrong with the earlier 1/4" jack anyway? The smaller one was completely incompatible without an adaptor.
It does take up too much space. So does the sim. That old, clunky crap is bigger than the CPU. It should be gone but the carriers have managed, so far, to keep it there. The antenna bands are no bigger than they have to be, nothing better or smaller is available. When it is, they'll use it.
I wonder, when would you get rid of the jack? If not now, when? Next year? 5 years? 20 years? Never? It will always be ubiquitous until something drives it out.
You're completely wrong. "It's a tired old low-quality and lazy means of getting audio"? What are you waffling about here exactly? It isn't used in home theatre because the 3.5mm jack is STEREO - 2-channel. It is the highest quality because it's hard wired, as soon as you start transmitting wirelessly you compromise the signal. It's not outdated tech - it's current tech, just because it's old it doesn't make it wrong. Bluetooth is fine and is newer, it's not "better" sounding and never will be though, while it gives you freedom of movement it ties you to having to charge so it's not a perfect solution.
Wow. So many pathetic people wanting to stick with a 100 year old relic technology.
Get. Over. It.
There's a reason why we have decent phones and laptops these days. They cut out what isn't needed. Here's 2005 vs 2015 laptops. Even then, the 3.5mm jack should have been a Lightning connector.
They've provided 3 alternatives - yet you all are whining like Neanderthals not wanting to leave the Stone Age. Good luck evolving.
Get. Over. It.
There's a reason why we have decent phones and laptops these days. They cut out what isn't needed. Here's 2005 vs 2015 laptops. Even then, the 3.5mm jack should have been a Lightning connector.
They've provided 3 alternatives - yet you all are whining like Neanderthals not wanting to leave the Stone Age. Good luck evolving.
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Simple answer no.
A DAC is needed to run the speakers on the iPhone, so it remains, but since it now does not have to run the headphones, a cheaper one will be used (only needed for speakers)
The lightening port needs a DAC, that is where the MFI programs comes in, DAC is now implemented into the headphones.
The analog audio jack is gone folks and it isn't coming back. Apple has never caved to pressure for a replaceable battery, removable storage media, etc. and there not going to go back on this. For the vast majority of people the usage of Bluetooth and/or wired adapters will suffice. For the rest of you, the iPhone 6S is still a great phone or you can look at other manufactures (until they follow suite and drop the audio jack as well).
Because USB-C is a standard, lightning isn't. Now, if I were to buy lightning headphones, they'd be useless on any other device, including my MacBook. Apple's own lightning EarPods don't even work with all of their own products. At least if they went USB-C, it would be a standard that would work across multiple devices by multiple manufacturers, I wouldn't mind it so much. But I'm not going to spend a dime on any lightning headphones when they won't work on my MacBook, or my work laptop, or on my Kindle, or on an airplane's seatback entertainment system or any number of places I use my headphones.
Understandable the "reason" for this to removed, but what about all this shielding Apple does ?
Doesn't that work in proximity to the headphone jack ? While it was analog, its still a chip.
I guess a Lightning port is easier to make "water tight" than an 3.5mm hole..
Doesn't that work in proximity to the headphone jack ? While it was analog, its still a chip.
I guess a Lightning port is easier to make "water tight" than an 3.5mm hole..
Wrong - they can get rid of the antenna bands completely by not making a phone out of metal, so there is a solution already but they choose to ignore it for fashion/perception reasons. Plastic is a superior material in many ways to metal for a portable device - the iPhone 3G looked great with it but someone decided it seemed "cheap" so Apple made their own lives more difficult by moving to metal.
My biggest concern has always been openness. Any new connector should enable getting either a good digital signal or a line-level analog signal out.
On the iPod classic, you could get a line level analog signal, which meant you could at least use an external headphone amplifier if you wanted. With USB DACs into any computer, you can get an external DAC+amp.
With a new connector, it would be fine if it were totally open, so that anyone could make a connector or an external amplifier, or even a DAC. That's the power in "upgrading" connectors. Otherwise, Apple are trying to justify a decision that looks like a closed ecosystem trying to have even more control over peripherals, licensing, and the cash cow that's associated with that.
On the iPod classic, you could get a line level analog signal, which meant you could at least use an external headphone amplifier if you wanted. With USB DACs into any computer, you can get an external DAC+amp.
With a new connector, it would be fine if it were totally open, so that anyone could make a connector or an external amplifier, or even a DAC. That's the power in "upgrading" connectors. Otherwise, Apple are trying to justify a decision that looks like a closed ecosystem trying to have even more control over peripherals, licensing, and the cash cow that's associated with that.
Cherry picking much?
That image doesn't include the latest MacBook Pros, which aren't much thicker than a MacBook, and have room for multiple USB ports, a Thunderbolt port, and a 3.5mm jack. And there is room for a 3.5mm jack on the MacBooks, Apple just chooses not to add one there because it might cost them an extra 87 cents per unit.