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Remove camera icon from lock screen 4S 5.1

matttye said:
Wow...

You think it would be an easy defence to argue that the pictures taken using your phone weren't taken by you?

They wouldn't just take your word for it. And I doubt either of the two others would own up because they would then be in trouble.

Did you know that the child that takes naked photos of themselves can also be prosecuted for possessing child pornography? (in the UK at least)
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For one thing, this is being blown out of proportion, MASSIVELY I think. A lot of people don't lock their phones at all, so the same scenario could presumably happen to them. You don't see everyone warning others to make sure their phone is password locked just in case there are some sneaky kids wanting to put nudy pictures of themselves onto the device.

In the US (and I think the UK as well, but I am not sure) there has to be proof that the accused is the one that willingly put the pictures there. The fact that the phone was left unattended for any amount of time, ever, would likely place enough reasonable doubt on the entire situation right there.

Is it possible this scenario could play out as suggested here? Sure. I certainly wouldn't spend my time worrying about it.
 
lordofthereef said:
For one thing, this is being blown out of proportion, MASSIVELY I think. A lot of people don't lock their phones at all, so the same scenario could presumably happen to them. You don't see everyone warning others to make sure their phone is password locked just in case there are some sneaky kids wanting to put nudy pictures of themselves onto the device.

In the US (and I think the UK as well, but I am not sure) there has to be proof that the accused is the one that willingly put the pictures there. The fact that the phone was left unattended for any amount of time, ever, would likely place enough reasonable doubt on the entire situation right there.

Is it possible this scenario could play out as suggested here? Sure. I certainly wouldn't spend my time worrying about it.
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However unlikely it is, there's no good reason why that feature can't be disabled. It should be up to the user if they want to give access to the camera when people don't know the password.
 
matttye said:
However unlikely it is, there's no good reason why that feature can't be disabled. It should be up to the user if they want to give access to the camera when people don't know the password.
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The bolded part is the important thing here. We need not make up some convoluted story of how one can be convicted of keeping child porn on their device due to this lock screen camera not being optional. It SHOULD be an option. Plenty of things SHOULD be options if you ask me, however they are not.
 
lordofthereef said:
The bolded part is the important thing here. We need not make up some convoluted story of how one can be convicted of keeping child porn on their device due to this lock screen camera not being optional. It SHOULD be an option. Plenty of things SHOULD be options if you ask me, however they are not.
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Nothing we said was impossible, however unlikely!
 
Was NoCameraGrabber posted here yet? Its in Cydia, I hope I didn't just miss it in this post:).
 
ap3604 said:
I'm OCD as well OP... it's tough to deal with sometimes I know :)
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My uncle has OCD and it has pretty much destroyed his life. It's not an easy think to live with. Please don't say you have OCD just cause you like things a certain way or have a small pet peave about something. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
pooleman said:
My uncle has OCD and it has pretty much destroyed his life. It's not an easy think to live with. Please don't say you have OCD just cause you like things a certain way or have a small pet peave about something. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Do you know this person? Its awfully funny You say he doesnt know what he is talking about when its completely clear you dont and are assuming Maybe you should drop your assumptions. For all you know this person has OCD worse than your uncle. This probably isnt the place for you to air your uncles business and if you want to help your uncle go do that rather than make ridiculous assumptions and point fingers. Jesus this thread is a joke. It's about a camera grabber and it's gone to OCD, child porn, and ppl telling the OP to suck it up. Is that really what forums are for? I guess the thread title is to subtle for some ppl. I came here looking for a solution to the camera icon on lockscreen but I can't help pointing out the absurdity of your post.
 
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KockBurn said:
Do you know this person? Its awfully funny You say he doesnt know what he is talking about when its completely clear you dont and are assuming Maybe you should drop your assumptions. For all you know this person has OCD worse than your uncle. This probably isnt the place for you to air your uncles business and if you want to help your uncle go do that rather than make ridiculous assumptions and point fingers. Jesus this thread is a joke. It's about a camera grabber and it's gone to OCD, child porn, and ppl telling the OP to suck it up. Is that really what forums are for? I guess the thread title is to subtle for some ppl. I came here looking for a solution to the camera icon on lockscreen but I can't help pointing out the absurdity of your post.
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People with real OCD would not use the term in reference to a little icon on a phone. And yes I know what I'm talking about. This thread is absurd though and I missed the child porn references.
 
I would take a couple seconds to open camera than an ugly camera icon on my lock screen. But that is just me.

Apple could have created the best of both worlds by simply adding an on off setting for the lock screen icon. Those who want it can keep it, those who don't can remove it. Good for all.

I just think it was an oversight and they probably never thought of it. Hopefully they will get around to it in next update or later.

Another reason to jailbreak!
 
jjk454ss said:
Was NoCameraGrabber posted here yet? Its in Cydia, I hope I didn't just miss it in this post:).
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THANK YOU! Someone finally found the answer after 2 pages of BS about child porn. Sheesh. This is a simple problem, simple solution.

One of the reasons (also laziness) why I stayed on 5.0.1.
 
This issue affects much more than personal preferences. One of these days i locked my iphone and put it on my pant's pocket. I then accidentally slided the camera activator and the camera turned on without my knowledge. After several minutes i noticed a warm feeling on my pocket and when i took my phone out it was extremelly hot.
 
Although probably irrelevant to everyone on here, it does disappear when you block the camera with parental controls. Nice for me, since I have to have the camera disabled (by AT&T) for work.
 
Pete Stonebridge

I think you should be able to remove the camera from the lock screen for the simple reason that I don't want anyone who gets hold of my telephone taking a bunch of dubious photos without me knowing. That's why I have my phone set to lock immediately. This should definitely be configurable for those that demand quick access to their camera and don't care about privacy (or don't have mischievous friends that want to mess with them).

I also think it should be configurable to disable holding the Home button in to enter Voice Control mode and then to make phone calls or play music without my knowing.

When my phone is locked - I want it to stay locked until someone enters the correct code. :cool:
 
pstonebridge said:
I think you should be able to remove the camera from the lock screen for the simple reason that I don't want anyone who gets hold of my telephone taking a bunch of dubious photos without me knowing. That's why I have my phone set to lock immediately. This should definitely be configurable for those that demand quick access to their camera and don't care about privacy (or don't have mischievous friends that want to mess with them).

I also think it should be configurable to disable holding the Home button in to enter Voice Control mode and then to make phone calls or play music without my knowing.

When my phone is locked - I want it to stay locked until someone enters the correct code. :cool:
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You can disable Siri on the lockscreen, it's somewhere in settings. I agree with the camera thing, but it should be ON by default, with an option for those users who are concerned about it.
 
I didn't want my lockscreen being messed up either, but I knew I could not avoid the update forever. The shortcut became very convenient though on a tour bus when I had to access the camera quickly throughout the day.
 
appleaddictx said:
I didn't want my lockscreen being messed up either, but I knew I could not avoid the update forever. The shortcut became very convenient though on a tour bus when I had to access the camera quickly throughout the day.
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Sounds like you need a real camera. Although at this point, it's a non issue for me, as my camera has been disabled through parental controls by the carrier (for work).
 
I know this is an old post. But I just made up my mind to search for solution to remove the camera icon. Having bumped into it and finished the whole discussion thread, I cannot resist from making my comments.

I think PARANOIDPRGRMR is right. P-PRGRMR was forced to make a case to argue that leaving this camera icon outside the lock screen can lead to many unpleasantries. So I do not agree that the discussion was blown out of proportion. In fact avoiding all kind of unpleasantries is exactly why we have the option to lock the phone at the first place. If Apple wants to give convenience to those fast-handed photographers, it is inexcusable that they do not give any thought to security side.

LORDOFTHEREEF said that "a lot of people do not even lock the phone......". So he, at the end, concluded that this camera icon mislocation is not an issue that deserves our worries. And the fact that many people not locking their phones still do not justify Apple's negligence or mishandling of this matter.

Leaving a usable icon on the lock screen is like putting your fridge outside your house although the house is locked.
 
yk22wong said:
I know this is an old post. But I just made up my mind to search for solution to remove the camera icon. Having bumped into it and finished the whole discussion thread, I cannot resist from making my comments.

I think PARANOIDPRGRMR is right. P-PRGRMR was forced to make a case to argue that leaving this camera icon outside the lock screen can lead to many unpleasantries. So I do not agree that the discussion was blown out of proportion. In fact avoiding all kind of unpleasantries is exactly why we have the option to lock the phone at the first place. If Apple wants to give convenience to those fast-handed photographers, it is inexcusable that they do not give any thought to security side.

LORDOFTHEREEF said that "a lot of people do not even lock the phone......". So he, at the end, concluded that this camera icon mislocation is not an issue that deserves our worries. And the fact that many people not locking their phones still do not justify Apple's negligence or mishandling of this matter.

Leaving a usable icon on the lock screen is like putting your fridge outside your house although the house is locked.
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Worrying about a security issue is kind of silly. It's just annoying to have it there when you don't want it.
 
The reason people would'nt want it there is because some people steal other people's iDevices and take naughty pics of them because you don't need to punch in the password to take pictures.

The way you can disable it, is:
Settings > General > Restrictions and making "Camera" not allowed by changing it to "off".
 
The icon is the dumbest thing ever. It defeats the purpose of putting a lock code on to access your phone. All someone needs to do is slide the camera icon, open the camera and hit the home button...... Bada bing bada boom ..... Someone is now accessing everything in your phone.......so dumb!

And yes you can disable it, however it also turns off FaceTime. What is the point of that? You now have to change settings every time you FaceTime ??? It just does not make any sense at all.
 
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Keyboardchick said:
The icon is the dumbest thing ever. It defeats the purpose of putting a lock code on to access your phone. All someone needs to do is slide the camera icon, open the camera and hit the home button...... Bada bing bada boom ..... Someone is now accessing everything in your phone.......so dumb!

And yes you can disable it, however it also turns off FaceTime. What is the point of that? You now have to change settings every time you FaceTime ??? It just does not make any sense at all.
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April Fools Joke?
 
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BiggAW said:
Sounds like you need a real camera. Although at this point, it's a non issue for me, as my camera has been disabled through parental controls by the carrier (for work).
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I have pondered it. The only camera I find rational is a 12-14 megapixel medium-sized camera. I don't want one of those bricks that cost $1000 that tourists hang around their necks to look like a pro photographer because they capture 54mp and 100x zoom and take 100,000 photos per second. I also find no need for a skinny 8mp camera when I can already take great 8mp photos on my 4S.
 
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