Rep system

[Black Macbook]

No, it is a terrible and stupid idea. I've been on other forums where they had such a system and it's totally retarded and it serves no useful purpose.

If this forum gets a rep system, then I'm outta here.

 

[miles01110]

Yes. Like 5 reps with in a 15 minute time period. This will help cut back on the abuse.

Or we could just keep things like they are- i.e. working just fine.

But like I said I could really care less. Just thought to throw the idea out there.

As I demonstrated above this idea is not new. If there were any real advantage to doing this, it would have been done already. Restricting Site and Forum Feedback from members that have only joined a month or two ago? Now that's something I could get behind.

 

[Peace]

If there were a rep system in this place now you could hear crickets chirping.

 

[Hellhammer]

Your right. It does have its pros and cons. Buts its more then just the iphone vs droid. Its the over all site it self. You sazy it will be a contest, how so? you assume people will be creating topics and such about their high rep? I'm sure there are a lot of valuable members here. Only a small percentage will abuse it.

Everything is a contest nowadays. Post count is a contest, I'm sure all members with high post count including myself can admit that they sometimes post in order to raise their post count i.e. repeating the same thing, agreeing etc. I didn't mean it will go like "I have the highest reputation so GTFO".

And what would it help anyway? Even though you had the highest reputation, it doesn't mean that you are right in what you are saying.

 

[Surely]

not sure if you were tring to be cool there kid, but it doesn't bother me. go,whats the word you kids use, "troll" elsewhere.

I was just testing out your rep system.

Another -1 for you. Looks like you're at -17.

Thank you for calling me "kid".

 

[ChrisGonzales90]

Or we could just keep things like they are- i.e. working just fine.



As I demonstrated above this idea is not new. If there were any real advantage to doing this, it would have been done already. Restricting Site and Forum Feedback from members that have only joined a month or two ago? Now that's something I could get behind.

Nothing wrong with that. I mean they are still members after all.

 

[Surely]

Restricting Site and Forum Feedback from members that have only joined a month or two ago? Now that's something I could get behind.

I just gave you a +1 for that idea.

 

[ChrisGonzales90]

I just gave you a +1 for that idea.

And I just gave you a +1 for e same reason your doing it.

 

[Surely]

And I just gave you a +1 for e same reason your doing it.

Sweet, now I'm 18 better than you.

 

[quetzaal]

What about only having positive rep?? That way you can thank someone if you think they deserve it. If you see someone with thousands of posts but no rep you know they aren't being constructive, and it would limit needless posts.

 

[chown33]

Yes. Like 5 reps with in a 15 minute time period. This will help cut back on the abuse.

I disagree. At best, it would just change the way it was gamed.

Instead of manually giving out reps, there would be bots that gave out reps yet stayed within the time limits. And the gamers would exchange scripts. And probably even post them to the forums.

And I don't think you've yet answered the question of what value this would bring. What is the advantage of having a high rep? What is the disadvantage of having a low rep? Are low-rep repeat offenders more likely to be booted? Do high-rep angels gain something other than a high rep? Other than having some pointless bragging rights for an extreme rep count (high or low), exactly how would reps affect anything for users or the system as a whole?

 

[ChrisGonzales90]

What about only having positive rep?? That way you can thank someone if you think they deserve it. If you see someone with thousands of posts but no rep you know they aren't being constructive, and it would limit needless posts.

That could work too.

I disagree. At best, it would just change the way it was gamed.

Instead of manually giving out reps, there would be bots that gave out reps yet stayed within the time limits. And the gamers would exchange scripts. And probably even post them to the forums.

And I don't think you've yet answered the question of what value this would bring. What is the advantage of having a high rep? What is the disadvantage of having a low rep? Are low-rep repeat offenders more likely to be booted? Do high-rep angels gain something other than a high rep? Other than having some pointless bragging rights for an extreme rep count (high or low), exactly how would reps affect anything for users or the system as a whole?

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another decent idea.

What it would do is point out members who are helpful and valuable to the community. I dobut those people who act like a 12 year old and show off their reps. Not any more diferent from post count and I dont see many showing off their post count

 

[miles01110]

Not any more diferent from post count and I dont see many showing off their post count

If it's no different than post count your entire argument was just deflated... by you.

 

[chown33]

What it would do is point out members who are helpful and valuable to the community.

That might be what you want it to do, but how do you ensure it does that? That's the key issue.

As others have pointed out, it is possible to game the system. It's possible to game it regardless of the limitations or safeguards you've posted.

Once the system starts being gamed, it loses its value for its stated purpose. In other words, you can no longer trust the Rep number, so you have to look at a person's post history to see if they're trusty or trollish. The post history is the real reputation anyway. That's the content and the context that matters.

Voting on someone else's post history with +1 or -1 (or whatever) is just a context-free McNuggetized opinion.

I dobut those people who act like a 12 year old and show off their reps.
Not any more diferent from post count and I dont see many showing off their post count

Really? Everyone's post count is right there under their name. It's been categorized and named, but it's right there. You're a "macrumors 6502", and I'm a "macrumors 65816". Those names clearly define a range of post counts.

If I want to know an exact post count, that's easily obtainable by clicking on your name in your post. It's also quite easy to see how frequently you're posting (you're averaging 16 a day).

And I can easily see where you've been posting, whether you're asking or answering, and a lot of other things. All available right now, without a rep number.

So really, if I cared about your reputation, I can discover it now, in as much detail as I care to find. And if I don't really care about your reputation as trusty or trollish, then a rep number isn't going to affect anything.

 

[MacNut]

This debate has gone on for years and the answer is always the same and will never change. Reputation systems don't and will never work. The only thing it will serve will be stroke egos because they feel they are more popular then they are voted to be. Feelings will be hurt and then a whole new fight will emerge.

 

[sushi]

I don't see the benefit of a Rep System over what we have today.

If there was a rep system, I would give the OP a -1.

Agree.

Nobody, that's what I'm asking you. As you haven't actually addressed it yet, how will this suggestion add to the experience or in any way improve the site?

Well said. If it isn't broke, why fix it?

Oh, and I haven't been accurately called a kid in at least 45 or so years, so try again.

Are you trying to say that you are old?

This has its pros and cons but I don't see how this could help anything. It would end up being a contest plus yg17 had it right, people would give negative if they disagree. The system isn't wise enough to know is that post a fact or an opinion. People who make valid points about e.g. iPhone vs Android would get smashes because they are not on iPhone's side.

Well said. This would definitely be a concern with a Rep System. It would be too easy to abuse. And who would monitor it?

Being able to see the join date and post count is a good indicator IMHO.

Plus I can easily find out more information by clicking on the members link.

 

[Jason Beck]

It fails.
Why fix what isn't broke?

 

[rpaloalto]

No!
A rep system has it's pluses and minuses. They can work in smaller communities, but MacRumors is far to big of a community for it to work. Plus the fact that macrumors has been around for such a long time, 6+years? It would hardly be far to implement something like that now.

 

[iBookG4user]

No!
A rep system has it's pluses and minuses. They can work in smaller communities, but MacRumors is far to big of a community for it to work. Plus the fact that macrumors has been around for such a long time, 6+years? It would hardly be far to implement something like that now.

I agree with you and macrumors is actually over 10 years old. Creating a system like this now is illogical when so few have a desire for such a system to be put into place.

 

[Jason Beck]

I love logging on every day. It's great as is.

 

[ChrisGonzales90]

It fails.
Why fix what isn't broke?

Because we can? Besides nothing is really broken. Even if it is we should fix it anyway.

i love fixing things that are not broken. I like to move on with life.

 

[Surely]

I like to move on with life.

Doesn't seem like it.......

 

[ChrisGonzales90]

Clearly you never learned to read in school (too busy texting I assume?) as I said I dont care for this. I just threw the idea out. I'm just responding....

 

[Jason Beck]

I don't understand what Chris is saying. ... .. .

 

[R94N]

A lot of other places have systems like that - Engadget is the first one I can think of. I don't really like them much though.