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Report: Apple Exploring 20-Inch All-Screen Foldable MacBook, But Foldable iPhone Delayed Until 2025
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Once again, I implore you - how can a product be "delayed" if it hasn't even been announced yet?
That rendering: for an iPad, maybe. As a laptop… nope. I have a laptop because I want to be able to type on it on a real keyboard.
Now, a regular laptop with a screen that unfolds larger… that could be cool.
Now, a regular laptop with a screen that unfolds larger… that could be cool.
I'd be down for an iPad that could fold into using a Mac interface. Not the other way around. In the case of the iPad, it would be adding functionality. In the case of a Mac, it would be removing functionality. The vast majority didn't like the Touch Bar, so why would they replace the entire keyboard with a giant ass Touch Bar? Especially now that they're being so friendly towards Mac users again by actually listening to our feedback and using that to help inform their product design?
Tactile keyboards are always going to be superior until you have displays that can literally morph into tactile keyboards, and that sort of technology is decades away. If they did something like this, I would hope that it would be a new product class instead of replacing something that already functions well. Mac users just want to get their work done, we don't want to fiddle with stupid crap like this. I get the vision and the simplification, but the real world often doesn't care about that. Reality is not ideal.
Tactile keyboards are always going to be superior until you have displays that can literally morph into tactile keyboards, and that sort of technology is decades away. If they did something like this, I would hope that it would be a new product class instead of replacing something that already functions well. Mac users just want to get their work done, we don't want to fiddle with stupid crap like this. I get the vision and the simplification, but the real world often doesn't care about that. Reality is not ideal.
Yes, about 20 years before the introduction of the iPad. I can’t remember which episode was this; it’s been a long time.
I didn’t get hook up with Next Gen until one day in the early 90’s when I got sick and had to stay in bed for 2 weeks.
I was able to watch a marathon of the series for a whole week.
I do remember in the early 2000’s some tablets started to appear, but their specs were very poor to decently run Windows. The best next thing were the Compaq (and later HP) iPaq Pocket PCs, running and ARM version of Windows Mobile. I remember paying $800.00 for one of those, plus the extended battery pack, plus a Pharos GPS, plus a $400 CF Card with a whooping 1 MB of storage (I can’t forgive myself for that! I think I still have it somewhere…).
Wonder if Apple has any OLED rollup desktop prototypes? That would be cool looking.
What about laser projection displays? Although thinking about it, it may be really bad for the eyes if staring from a short distance. OLED may be best…
If this exists, I would bring back the iBook branding for it. Part iPad. Part MacBook. Unique device separate from traditional MacBooks.
Apple has likely delayed its foldable iPhone until 2025 and the company is exploring all-screen foldable MacBooks, according to Display Supply Chain Consultants (DSCC) analyst Ross Young.
In a new DSCC report on upcoming foldable and rollable devices, Young explained that Apple's long-rumored foldable iPhone has been delayed until 2025. This appears to be a significant delay compared to previous predictions that the device will launch in 2023 or 2024. News of the delay comes after discussions with supply chain sources, suggesting that Apple is not in a hurry to enter the foldable market.
Despite delaying its foldable ambitions for the iPhone, Apple is allegedly exploring the possibility of offering all-screen foldable notebooks. The company is said to be discussing foldable notebooks with displays around 20-inches in size with its suppliers.
Young said that this device could form a new product category for Apple and result in a dual-use product, with it able to work as a notebook with a full-size on-screen keyboard when folded and as a monitor when unfolded and used with an external keyboard. The foldable could also allow for 4K resolutions or higher at the size Apple is investigating, Young added.
The launch timeframe for the foldable notebook is "likely later" than 2025, with 2026 or 2027 being floated as reasonable possibilities. The disclosure of Apple's interest in the foldable notebook segment is said to be "good news for the foldable space" generally.
Young has revealed a litany of accurate insights into Apple's plans, such as the iPhone 13 Pro's ProMotion display, the display size and bezels of the sixth-generation iPad mini, the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro's mini-LED displays with ProMotion, and more. Most recently, Young spearheaded rumors of the iPhone 14 Pro's pill-shaped and hole-punch TrueDepth camera design to replace the notch and the mini-LED iMac Pro's June release date.
Article Link: Report: Apple Exploring 20-Inch All-Screen Foldable MacBook, But Foldable iPhone Delayed Until 2025
Foldable notebook or foldable iPad Pro ? The latter seems more likely for an iPad Pro with a screen size bigger than 12.9" . Larger than that some modes are too unwieldy. Removes the need for a keyboard-cover on the go ( clamshell protects screen as about as good as a cover. On screen keyboard is present in iPadOS anyway. Half of a 20-22" screen would still be a decent iPad presentation frame. )
With macOS have the ongoing issue of what do you have when fully unfold the large screen. A 20+ inch touch surface. Isn't that what iPadOS is for? Apple is going to merge iPadOS and macOS ? They have repeatedly , explicitly said "no" . ( oh they said no the previous 4-5 times but they are going to say yes eventually. .... not really a good approach to interacting with someone when told their preferences. )
By 2025 there is likely going to be a much bigger number of apps that work both on iPadOS and on macOS so the gap isn't going to be that big for someone looking for a solution like this.
This sounds like a "just in case" tech investigation. Apple files some design patents around the general area in case it eventually gets "hot" , but probably not really jumping in with both feet. If can't find a "good enough" panel for the iPhone , how likely going to find a "good enough" panel for the iPad sizes? Maybe some small overlap here with OLED iPad work where an even more expensive screen long term is being talked up by a supplier. And it has cool gadget appeal for the R&D lab.
Flip 3 makes more sense than the Fold 3. A Folded huge phablet is still a big smartphone sized bloat for normal pockets. The Flip 3 gets to easier to carry size and smaller crease and hinge to deal with.
The Flip tries to solve the "smartphone screen size bloat issue" and the Fold is more of an enabler of even bigger bloat. The former also makes it much easier to control costs. Foldable is also a "feature" to drive the cost way up also. That is not a consumer driven solution.
For a too big to be practically carried around tablet , folding might make some sense as it is a different class of fold-and-carry isuse for tablets where perhaps bring back to regular table size from something that is way above the norm.
Ross is high as f**k.
Apple has likely delayed its foldable iPhone until 2025 and the company is exploring all-screen foldable MacBooks, according to Display Supply Chain Consultants (DSCC) analyst Ross Young.
In a new DSCC report on upcoming foldable and rollable devices, Young explained that Apple's long-rumored foldable iPhone has been delayed until 2025. This appears to be a significant delay compared to previous predictions that the device will launch in 2023 or 2024. News of the delay comes after discussions with supply chain sources, suggesting that Apple is not in a hurry to enter the foldable market.
Despite delaying its foldable ambitions for the iPhone, Apple is allegedly exploring the possibility of offering all-screen foldable notebooks. The company is said to be discussing foldable notebooks with displays around 20-inches in size with its suppliers.
Young said that this device could form a new product category for Apple and result in a dual-use product, with it able to work as a notebook with a full-size on-screen keyboard when folded and as a monitor when unfolded and used with an external keyboard. The foldable could also allow for 4K resolutions or higher at the size Apple is investigating, Young added.
The launch timeframe for the foldable notebook is "likely later" than 2025, with 2026 or 2027 being floated as reasonable possibilities. The disclosure of Apple's interest in the foldable notebook segment is said to be "good news for the foldable space" generally.
Young has revealed a litany of accurate insights into Apple's plans, such as the iPhone 13 Pro's ProMotion display, the display size and bezels of the sixth-generation iPad mini, the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro's mini-LED displays with ProMotion, and more. Most recently, Young spearheaded rumors of the iPhone 14 Pro's pill-shaped and hole-punch TrueDepth camera design to replace the notch and the mini-LED iMac Pro's June release date.
Article Link: Report: Apple Exploring 20-Inch All-Screen Foldable MacBook, But Foldable iPhone Delayed Until 2025
it's interesting that people always think a folding phone should give you twice a much screen size for about the same physical size. I would want about half the same physical size but the same screen size... like an old flip phone.
As someone who uses both the iPhone 13 Pro Max and the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3, this sucks. As much as I love my iPhone 13 PM, the design is stale and boring. It looks similar to the 12 PM and 11 PM before that. Introducing a foldable iPhone into the mix would get people interested again.
Likely true. You also spread so many false scents that someone that is actually releasing tidbits of a legit apple product can be easily separated and found out. Contractors and suppliers to Apple the same.
I think foldable devices have a lot of potential for packing use-case-flexibility into a small form factor, but from an engineering perspective, I still think foldable screens have a lot of mechanical problems that are probably more easily solved with truly borderless rigid screens and traditional hinges.
oh wow apple gonna make a touch screen macbook!
Apple has likely delayed its foldable iPhone until 2025 and the company is exploring all-screen foldable MacBooks, according to Display Supply Chain Consultants (DSCC) analyst Ross Young.
In a new DSCC report on upcoming foldable and rollable devices, Young explained that Apple's long-rumored foldable iPhone has been delayed until 2025. This appears to be a significant delay compared to previous predictions that the device will launch in 2023 or 2024. News of the delay comes after discussions with supply chain sources, suggesting that Apple is not in a hurry to enter the foldable market.
Despite delaying its foldable ambitions for the iPhone, Apple is allegedly exploring the possibility of offering all-screen foldable notebooks. The company is said to be discussing foldable notebooks with displays around 20-inches in size with its suppliers.
Young said that this device could form a new product category for Apple and result in a dual-use product, with it able to work as a notebook with a full-size on-screen keyboard when folded and as a monitor when unfolded and used with an external keyboard. The foldable could also allow for 4K resolutions or higher at the size Apple is investigating, Young added.
The launch timeframe for the foldable notebook is "likely later" than 2025, with 2026 or 2027 being floated as reasonable possibilities. The disclosure of Apple's interest in the foldable notebook segment is said to be "good news for the foldable space" generally.
Young has revealed a litany of accurate insights into Apple's plans, such as the iPhone 13 Pro's ProMotion display, the display size and bezels of the sixth-generation iPad mini, the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro's mini-LED displays with ProMotion, and more. Most recently, Young spearheaded rumors of the iPhone 14 Pro's pill-shaped and hole-punch TrueDepth camera design to replace the notch and the mini-LED iMac Pro's June release date.
Article Link: Report: Apple Exploring 20-Inch All-Screen Foldable MacBook, But Foldable iPhone Delayed Until 2025