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I work on Windows about 45-55 hours a week, and mostly use Mac for personal stuff, at least for the past couple of year.

I can only suggest that you perhaps should try using more that one OS on a regular basis. This could help with expanding your horizons a bit.

It's great that you find Mac that stable. In my experience, it's been less stable than Windows. I have had to reboot my M2 MBA a whole lot more often than Windows (although to be fair, still not very often) because of some process slowing down the system even after I try to force quit it, or because it just decided to drop an external hard drive in the middle of me doing something. And of course there's a list of things that Mac just does worse (although in the latest beta they finally copied Windows' way of window management). Some of these things can be fixed via 3rd party tools. But not all. For example, I can take a mid range laptop and attach two 32" monitors and get sharp, crisp display of text and icons on both. Yet a $1,500 MBA can only use one monitor and is fuzzy as hell (yes, it's not a high PPI but this doesn't prevent sharp text in Windows).

As far as OS go, I would definitely not place Mac above W11. Both have their pros and cons.
All fair points. However smooth and stable Windows 11 is, I myself would prefer not to use it. I'm not giving MacOS a pass just because I like it and am used to it. I've had some doggy times with Mac hardware and software over the years, but my daily experience is that it's in a stable place right now (though who knows what all the additional complexity of Sequoia will do for that). I regularly go 2-4 weeks between restarts on my home and work Macs. Don't know what else to say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(As far as "broadening my horizons" I did have occasion to fire up our office's PC recently to use a Windows-only piece of software. I saw a little weather temperature readout in the task bar, clicked on it expecting to see the forecast... and it was like the internet barfed all over my screen. A window taking up like 1/3 of the display opened up with random animated news thumbnails, ads for detergent, general clickbait. It was just insane. This is a vanilla install of Windows, btw. I'm sure one could cull the bloatware and optimize the system, but yikes, what a gross out of the box experience.)
 
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you dont need a smart phone to be tracked... you connect to a network for signal, they know where you are from your SIM ID.
drive? cameras on highways log rego.
pay with tap or card?
even VPNs are always secure...

face it, we have no privacy if someone wants to know a lot about you.
Not true. You are talking like a victim.

There are ways, you just don't know them.
And this is not all about where you are / geo-tracking, it is about the data you give away every day, user data, user behavior, user interaction with other users, your user generated content and so much more.

The value of this kind of data is far beyond any retro mobile phone geo tracking.
That is not even the same business.

I guess you knew that when you where replying to me so vigorously.


Please stop irritating people.
Vicitmizing is popular. Get off it.
 
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This is a bazillion dollar company. there's no reason they cant make it work at launch day.

people will be buying brand new hardware with the AI hype and it wont work on launch day. this isnt some gimmick feature that they sometimes push to later. This is a major feature, and once again, not available at launch.
Them being a bazillion dollar company is precisely why they can't make it work at launch day. Too much red tape to get anything working right. Find a bug, has to run it up four different levels before they can get approved to fix the bug, which then exposes another bug that has to go up four levels again to get approval to fix, which exposes a different bug...
 
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i was thinking about buying the iphone pro as an upgrade from the 14th model, but living in the EU and all i rather wait and get apple’s second beta device next year.
 
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How can this be called a delay?

Apple said AI goes out *in beta* in the fall.

Nobody has any actual evidence this was ever going to be in 18.0, but that sure as hell doesn’t stop the hot-takes and garbage click-based revenue stories from going out…
 
"A few things" being overall stability (both are good, but Windows is better), external monitor support, external drive support, multitasking (well the latest public beta of MacOS finally brings something resembling proper window management although still not on par with Windows and Linux), proper font scaling that doesn't require changing systemwide display resolution (still to this day I can't get over this atrocious UX direction), clipboard history, and pen support. I may have missed a few things. Oh and there's WSL.

Apple is definitely better at phone and tablet integration, out of the box color calibration, a somewhat "smart" assistant (although now with Copilot it's questionable who has an edge there), out of the box eye candy, and HomeKit integration.

Perhaps because that’s what most business software ran on ?

A lot of this is subjective. You like the way Windows works, and the way it looks. Fair enough, it’s improved a lot since XP, and we all like different things. Personally, I prefer the way macOS does most things.

I would dispute the assertion that Windows has better stability, that has never been my experience. It’s better than it used to be, but it’s still got the same vulnerable design.

I’ve never had a problem running external drives, what aspect are you referring to?

By multitasking are you talking about window management? Macs have excellent multitasking, it’s what stood out to me 20 years ago when I saw that even under a massive CPU workload, OS X (Jaguar, I think) would still run other apps smoothly, if slowly, whereas Windows would lock up completely until the task finished. Windows has got a lot better at it since XP too though, I must admit. Are you referring to the infuriating way windows snap to corners or sides of screens, and try to force a tile more when I’m just trying to move them over a little in Windows? Please keep that away, or at least optional.

WSL. I’ve never used it, because it come out well and truly long after I’d switched to Mac, but Mac has had a Bash terminal (variously tcsh, bash, Zsh over the years) for ages! I’ve installed homebrew, and run command line tools when I want, which suits me just fine. What do you want to do that you can’t?
 
I have a cousin working with Apple Engineering, the instability issues caused by the 8GB of RAM or less.
Well well guess you're cousin working in Apple Engineering was incorrect as it was launched today.
 
You get promoted for getting a new project on the way, but not for incrementally improving, maintaining and consolidating existing software.
What about Notes, or Reminders? Or Maps? Or Photos? All of those have seen steady and even dramatic improvement over the past decade. I still remember quite well when Notes was simply a bare bones notepad with fake handwriting font and little else. Now look at it. I think Apple is actually very good at committing to pieces of software over the long term.

But, the pattern you're describing sure seems like it would describe Google pretty well!

This results in software remaining half-baked, and in increased complexity and inconsistencies. In the end, it’s a leadership problem.
There's no doubt that all software, across every kind of platform, has gotten much more complex over the years. And as a consumer base, we've come to expect this complexity and to build more and more stuff on top of it. I agree that increasing complexity is a big factor in software bugs, and I wonder if there's any management strategy that could just solve the issue that easily.
 
The delay is good in order to get it right but that's not necessarily what happens. The recent pattern with Apple is they prematurely announce a new software feature. It's delayed by an almost a year only to finally be released still broken and half-baked in the push to get it out the door.
 
A lot of this is subjective. You like the way Windows works, and the way it looks. Fair enough, it’s improved a lot since XP, and we all like different things. Personally, I prefer the way macOS does most things.
Most things discussed here are subjective.
I would dispute the assertion that Windows has better stability, that has never been my experience. It’s better than it used to be, but it’s still got the same vulnerable design.
I have two Windows devices and an MBA. I have to restart that MBA due to something getting out of whack and slowing down the system more often. But neither OS is unstable.
I’ve never had a problem running external drives, what aspect are you referring to?
Have you dealt with drive formatted with a non-journaling file system (such as exFAT) ? The problems with MacOS dropping them and then taking 20-30 minutes to re-mount while silently performing drive check (with no way for the user to stop it) are well documented.


Here's an article


or my own complaint from last year, with other users chiming in



By multitasking are you talking about window management? Macs have excellent multitasking, it’s what stood out to me 20 years ago when I saw that even under a massive CPU workload, OS X (Jaguar, I think) would still run other apps smoothly, if slowly, whereas Windows would lock up completely until the task finished.

Window management is the biggest issue. The poor support for external monitors, especially on the "cheap" MBAs (that cost 2-3 times of what a "midrange" Windows laptop does). The problematic functionality of external hard drives. The lack of a native clipboard history tool. Even the small things, like the way in which the "maximized" window can't be resized without un-maximizing it first. Why ? Or the fact that you can't increase font size in many dialogs without minimizing the global screen resolution. All of that combined makes multitasking a chore.

Windows has got a lot better at it since XP too though, I must admit. Are you referring to the infuriating way windows snap to corners or sides of screens, and try to force a tile more when I’m just trying to move them over a little in Windows?
I am referring to the easy and quick way to arrange and rearrange multiple windows on multiple screens without having to remember key combinations or drag windows into position. Which isn't forcing you into anything.

The bottom line is, when I am working from home, I can be using my cheap old $750 Acer laptop (or not so cheap and pretty crappy Surface Pro), connect it to my two 32" monitors, and have sharp text on all three screens, with lots of real estate.

With my $1,500 or so MBA, I can only have one monitor, and it will be fairly fuzzy. Because I need a MBP and two über expensive high PPI monitors to do that with Apple.

Does this impact my ability to multitask ? Of course it does. Luckily I am not using Apple for work, where I really need that.
Please keep that away, or at least optional.
Well you're too late, the latest public beta of MacOS has largely copied Windows' way of tiling app windows.
WSL. I’ve never used it, because it come out well and truly long after I’d switched to Mac, but Mac has had a Bash terminal (variously tcsh, bash, Zsh over the years) for ages! I’ve installed homebrew, and run command line tools when I want, which suits me just fine. What do you want to do that you can’t?
WSL allows you to run full blown Linux programs with GUI, not just CLI tools.

At any rate - I am not saying that Windows is superior to Mac. Merely that the people who claim that MacOS is superior to Windows are stuck in the 2000s. You keep comparing with Windows XP that was in many ways a bad OS (and ME was even worse). But it's no longer the same OS. Starting with around W7, Microsoft has really upped their game.
 
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Most things discussed here are subjective.

I have two Windows devices and an MBA. I have to restart that MBA due to something getting out of whack and slowing down the system more often. But neither OS is unstable.
I don't deny that that's your experience, but it is the opposite to mine. Generally speaking, my Macs only get restarted when OS updates do it for me. Once or twice I've had to log out and back in again, but that's not too bad since I've been using Macs since around 2006 or 2007. It's been very rare for any of my Windows machines to have uptime greater than a week.
Have you dealt with drive formatted with a non-journaling file system (such as exFAT) ? The problems with MacOS dropping them and then taking 20-30 minutes to re-mount while silently performing drive check (with no way for the user to stop it) are well documented.


Here's an article


or my own complaint from last year, with other users chiming in

I was unaware of that issue, I would be a bit annoyed too if it had affected me. I reformatted my exFAT drives because I've not needed them for a while. I've long since abandoned my PC to being a glorified games console, and since I moved a couple of months ago, I haven't even got around to setting it up. I will eventually, there are a few Windows only games I would like to play occasionally. Also we're all Mac at work too. I haven't needed to share a file to a Windows machine for a while now.
Window management is the biggest issue. The poor support for external monitors, especially on the "cheap" MBAs (that cost 2-3 times of what a "midrange" Windows laptop does). The problematic functionality of external hard drives. The lack of a native clipboard history tool. Even the small things, like the way in which the "maximized" window can't be resized without un-maximizing it first. Why ? Or the fact that you can't increase font size in many dialogs without minimizing the global screen resolution. All of that combined makes multitasking a chore.


I am referring to the easy and quick way to arrange and rearrange multiple windows on multiple screens without having to remember key combinations or drag windows into position. Which isn't forcing you into anything.

The bottom line is, when I am working from home, I can be using my cheap old $750 Acer laptop (or not so cheap and pretty crappy Surface Pro), connect it to my two 32" monitors, and have sharp text on all three screens, with lots of real estate.

With my $1,500 or so MBA, I can only have one monitor, and it will be fairly fuzzy. Because I need a MBP and two über expensive high PPI monitors to do that with Apple.

Does this impact my ability to multitask ? Of course it does. Luckily I am not using Apple for work, where I really need that.

Well you're too late, the latest public beta of MacOS has largely copied Windows' way of tiling app windows.
I can't stand the Windows 11 window management. It's something that irritates me virtually every time I use Windows.

As long as windows don't aggressively snap to edges and corners in predetermined sizes and shapes, I'll be ok.

I already conceded your point re: Apple text handling on external monitors. Text in AutoCAD on an external monitor looks particularly terrible. I've never had a desire to change text size in dialogs, independent of resolution. It's never been something I've looked for, except to reset it on Windows when someone has 'helpfully' changed it.
WSL allows you to run full blown Linux programs with GUI, not just CLI tools.
I can see how that would be useful for some people. Can you still install X Windows on Mac? I seem to remember running GIMP under X back when I was first experimenting with OS X. I wouldn't have noticed if that functionality were taken away. I never had a need for it, it was just nerd fun for me.
At any rate - I am not saying that Windows is superior to Mac. Merely that the people who claim that MacOS is superior to Windows are stuck in the 2000s. You keep comparing with Windows XP that was in many ways a bad OS (and ME was even worse). But it's no longer the same OS. Starting with around W7, Microsoft has really upped their game.
The days of claiming any OS is flat-out superior is over, even if it were ever valid in the first place. I'm not a believer in the concept that there is a 'best' anything, only a 'best for XYZ use cases'. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience with macOS and Windows, nor am I trying to change your mind, or defend my choices. I'm merely pointing out that my experience is the opposite.

I've come to really strongly dislike Windows 11. The aggressive window management, the built-in advertising, that stupid weather widget installed in the taskbar that seems to promise a weather report, but instead is a front for what looks like a tamed-down chumbox.

After I edited the registry, on my Windows 11 PC, to disable CoPilot, I tried to find my licence key for Windows 10, since I found that less irritating than 11 and wanted to downgrade. I kept searching for my old Windows licence keys until I found my key for Windows 8, but it's an upgrade licence, and I can't find my Windows 7 key. So it looks like I'm stuck with 11.

All of that, plus upgrading from a 2012 11" i7 MacBook Air running Catalina to a M3 Pro 14" MacBook Pro, has meant that I have little use for my PC now.

I just share this to add context to my comments.

Thank you for your constructive responses. Sometimes it feels like a civil disagreement is a little rare on the internet.
 
Them being a bazillion dollar company is precisely why they can't make it work at launch day. Too much red tape to get anything working right. Find a bug, has to run it up four different levels before they can get approved to fix the bug, which then exposes another bug that has to go up four levels again to get approval to fix, which exposes a different bug...
Maybe should have started on it earlier eh?
 
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