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Who would have guessed 🙄

Either way, we won't get it in the EU before iphone 18, if ever, and if it has not gone the way of Ping/Apple News by then.
 
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This is a bazillion dollar company. there's no reason they cant make it work at launch day.

people will be buying brand new hardware with the AI hype and it wont work on launch day. this isnt some gimmick feature that they sometimes push to later. This is a major feature, and once again, not available at launch.
It would only have been available in a fraction of the world either way and even there only in a fraction of the install base. And there have already been polls that AI is not a device-seller (it just makes Apple look behind if they don't have/announce it). So, Apple is probably in no rush
 
Well iPhone 17 for me, this Apple AI won’t even be available ready for the iPhone 16 launch.

Hopefully by the 17 Launch this AI stuff will be ready for prime time
While Siri is in dire need of improvements, I'm not exactly sure what parts of Apple AI are going to be so useful that they'd warrant buying a new iPhone.

Like, yes, again, the Siri that can understand everything and context and tone(I'll believe it when I see it) would be very useful as a sort of secretary or very basic personal assistant.

But what tasks specifically will you be doing with Apple Intelligence all the time that will improve your output or make your "digital life" easier?
 
No one is buying a phone becuase of AI, AI is cool and can be useful, but its not going to be a major factor for most.
Not yet. All tech related things started small.

It also doesn't really matter if you (or I) believe this is going to be a major factor. It's best to look at those who have the most knowledge about it... and the people with the best insights inside the biggest companies surely do believe it is going to be a big factor. In the past quarter, for example, Google alone already spent $2 billion on AI development. If there were any doubts among them, they likely wouldn't even spend hundreds of thousands. Instead, they are spending billions. In 3 months time.
 
To be fair, they didn’t know they were launching ios18 this year.
That sounds like a zinger to most of us. But I actually think that's accurate.

However, I will gladly eat my words if they manage to get Siri to understand tone and context at the level shown in WWDC.
 
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Sadly it doesn't seem like any devices I own will be able to take advantage of it anyway. Oh well, doesn't sound like I'd be missing much.
 
Have you ever used their translation app introduced years after the competition? It's awful. Just awful.

And their failure to offer more languages is remarkable.

It is.

And how is it they can’t offer synonyms when you input words in the other language ?
 
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It's best to look at those who have the most knowledge about it... and the people with the best insights inside the biggest companies surely do believe it is going to be a big factor. In the past quarter, for example, Google alone already spent $2 billion on AI development. If there were any doubts among them, they likely wouldn't even spend hundreds of thousands. Instead, they are spending billions. In 3 months time.
The people who have the most knowledge about it aren’t typically the ones who are making the budgetary decisions.

I encourage anyone, for example, to listen to this podcast episode with a Google senior staff engineer who is also the author of a popular deep-learning Python library: https://www.preposterousuniverse.co...eep-learning-and-the-meaning-of-intelligence/

It’ll be a factor in one way or another, for sure, but nobody really knows how it’ll end up and which investments really make sense. At present, the investments seem to be motivated more by FOMO than by anything else.
 
I wonder if they're having trouble getting this to run without harming performance. LLMs are very CPU and memory intensive and nobody wants a hot brick with a soon dead battery in their pocket.

Frankly I hope the "AI" fad passes soon so we can move on to actual innovation instead of a brainless regurgitation machine.
This was 100% my worry. I thought all along the 15 pros were “minimum” requirement to get AI to run on iOS, but sure wasn’t optimal requirements. I am sure Apple didn’t want to tell people that, but it sure does seem like that now.
 
I am sure that you can just unlock the Apple intelligence Features in the EU just with the help of a US Apple Id that is just signed in to the App Store, not the whole iOS with Backups and so on... On macOS it works very good with Mirroring
 
They probably don’t want another maps fiasco.  doesn’t take embarrassment very well. I’m all in on the betas, though. It’s just wild that they could be releasing 18.1 to developers so soon. Lots of exciting times coming ahead.
 
should have waited till next years wwdc but they had to say they are doing something
They thought it was going to help sell the iPhone 16, now it won’t even be ready for when the phone launches. iphone 16 looking like a real dud.
 
Have you ever used their translation app introduced years after the competition? It's awful. Just awful.

And their failure to offer more languages is remarkable.
Hopefully that will change with iOS 18 as they finally introduced customization like on Android
 
I knew this Apple AI stuff was gonna have a ton of software bugs and would need a lot of developers and non-developers to be the gunie pigs 🐷 to test this stuff out, as Apple has never really implemented AI on a large scale like this or ever implemented AI.


Probably best to wait till iPhone 17 if you want a smoother bug free experience
 
Let me guess, it will only work on the A17 and later processors? They need a reason for people to buy the new phone, and bigger image sensors and bezels that are .05mm thinner aren't doing the trick anymore.

You would be wise to wait for the iPhone 17. Not even Apple can put together a stable AI platform in a matter of months. Even if they buy a patented technology, it will take time to incorporate and build Siri back from the ground up.
You don’t have to guess. Apple already announced the hardware that will support Apple Intelligence:

iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max

2022 iPad Air (or newer)

2022 iPad Pro (or newer)

Any M-Series Mac
 
I would venture to guess that it is probably the "commoditization" part of Apple Intelligence that Apple is trying to structure against emerging third party competition.
 
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Have you ever used their translation app introduced years after the competition? It's awful. Just awful.

And their failure to offer more languages is remarkable.
I actually quite like Apple’s translation features. It has problems (like any translation software). But genuinely like using it.

Your “offer more languages” comment though: That’s fair.

-Edit- Although, I don’t use the app itself. I just use the built-in Safari translation to translate web pages. I’m assuming the tech powering both is the same (but I don’t know that for sure).
 
Still waiting for multi user login on the iPad and iPhone. :rolleyes:
And remember when your home directory would be on your iPod and you could plug it into a computer and boot up with that?
Might as well wait for iOS 19.
 
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