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I don't know what you mean in your first statement, but you're delusional since it isn't possible.

Since it is obviously a trivial matter to build a phone with the exact same specs as an iPhone 5S sans the camera and 1/3rd of the battery, not only is it possible to make the iPhone 5S thinner, but it is indeed very easy to do so. It is just a matter of priorities.

Now please stop calling me delusional for stating obvious facts.

Anyway, the iPhone 5S is 7.6mm and thinner = easier to hold and use with one hand, not sure how else to tell you, you aren't getting it. Along with weight etc I already mentioned.

How is it easier to hold with one hand? What are you not able to do one handed with the current phone, but which you think that would be doable if the phone was 6.6 mm instead?

Weight is not a function of thickness alone, either. There are two other dimensions in play as well, plus the choice of materials. Do you think that the current iPhone is too heavy, then, or why do you need it to be lighter?
 
I feel like the average consumer leads to the issue of a weaker battery. The desire for a new device that's slimmer instead of practical is redundant. These devices are slim enough as it is.
 
Because something is horribly wrong with the battery on your 5s. My two year old iPhone 5 is at maybe 95% battery after news/email/web/etc in the morning (2-3 signal bars from AT&T and on wifi). Now I can't say whether we're using our phones for exactly the same amount of time or in exactly the same way, but a 22% drop is nuts, unless you're using GPS at the same time or something.

I have had every iPhone since the beginning, and all of them have displayed essentially the same poor battery behavior that the poster you are replying to experiences. I have done full factory resets, iCloud restores, non-restore processes. I've tried everything under the sun, and nothing has a meaningful impact on my battery life. My Bluetooth is always off, my Wi-Fi is always on, my brightness is set to the lowest level and it adjusts higher when the room is bright. I'll well applications to know their location, but I don't use any navigation type applications except when I am driving.

It's so funny, because I literally don't know anyone who wouldn't say yes, I would love to have more battery life. And I ask a lot of people. Everyone's experience is their own, but this is what I do for living, and the survey results are unanimous. I asked two of my clients today and both of them agreed that they would rather have a phone that was as thick as the 4 models but had another four or more hours of battery life.
 
Majority of people who need a better battery don't know how to usr their phone.

Manufacturers wouldn't distribute a device that had 4 hours of battery life with average use.

People who need better battery life because they are heavy users who prefer to push their phones to the limit should by one or two portable chargers. You sprinted to the finish line.. Now wait patiently for technology to catch up.
 
We will see how it goes having to power a much bigger screen. In all of the tests and graphs you show......the iphone has the smallest screen of those tested. We will see if a larger screen with a larger battery will still remain current or is it supposed to be better somehow? All things being equal......larger screen larger battery.........battery performance would seem to remain the same.
Assuming the same aspect ratio, the 4.7" iPhone 6 will have a 38% larger display than the iPhone 5s. The battery mentioned now is 35% larger than that of the 5s. Unless, all internal components (CPU, memory, graphics, WiFi+cell+Bluetooth+GPS radio, storage) also increase their consumption by 35%, the new battery will provide extra juice. The graphics chip energy needs might scale with the screen size but the consumption of all other components won't. The extra battery capacity might power more memory or a faster CPU or ac WiFi but it might also add battery life.

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I have had every iPhone since the beginning, and all of them have displayed essentially the same poor battery behavior that the poster you are replying to experiences. I have done full factory resets, iCloud restores, non-restore processes. I've tried everything under the sun, and nothing has a meaningful impact on my battery life. My Bluetooth is always off, my Wi-Fi is always on, my brightness is set to the lowest level and it adjusts higher when the room is bright. I'll well applications to know their location, but I don't use any navigation type applications except when I am driving.

It's so funny, because I literally don't know anyone who wouldn't say yes, I would love to have more battery life. And I ask a lot of people. Everyone's experience is their own, but this is what I do for living, and the survey results are unanimous. I asked two of my clients today and both of them agreed that they would rather have a phone that was as thick as the 4 models but had another four or more hours of battery life.
You are just unlucky that your type of usage is demanding on the battery. This could be a lot of things, the cell connection, the Wifi connection, the type of tasks you do a lot (eg, streaming). Instead of trying to find out whether something is wrong with your phone (which is unlikely since you had the same experience with multiple phones), you would be better served with finding out which precise 'tasks'/'activities' tax your battery a lot. Start with the phone doing the least amount possible (re-booted, background activity switched off, airplane mode, display off) and track your battery usage over a few hours. Then add one thing at a time and keep tracking your battery usage. I am sure, you will find some activities that have a noticeably bigger impact than the rest (they could be as basic as travelling through the subway with the phone having poor reception and frequent cell changes).*




Of course, if this sleuthing doesn't appeal to you, you can also just carry a charger with you or get an external battery pack. I am just saying that if you experience a significantly shorter battery life than others, your phone is doing different/more tasks than those which are happy with the battery life. It might well be, that there are tasks you could curtail relatively easily. It might also be that reading for x hours, listening to audio for y hours and all your other normal tasks simply mean, that you use your phone longer per day.


I only ever run out of battery
  • When I am already home and close to going to bed
  • When I forget to charge the phone over night
  • When I use the GPS a lot
  • When I travel for something like 10+ hours (changing cell towers a lot seems to take up additional juice)
  • When I travel and forget my charger
  • When my phone gets hot without me noticing it early enough (something internally is running amok, solved by re-booting the phone)

This has been the case with all the three iPhones I owned so far.
 
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Majority of people who need a better battery don't know how to usr their phone.

Manufacturers wouldn't distribute a device that had 4 hours of battery life with average use.

People who need better battery life because they are heavy users who prefer to push their phones to the limit should by one or two portable chargers. You sprinted to the finish line.. Now wait patiently for technology to catch up.

If the majority of people are using their phone in a specific way, it is hardly the manufacturers or a forum member's place to dictate how that device should be used.

If more and more people are using their smartphones for more and more things, the manufacturer who recognizes that pattern and includes a bigger battery will only be responding to market forces. That would be the smart thing.
 
I have had every iPhone since the beginning, and all of them have displayed essentially the same poor battery behavior that the poster you are replying to experiences. I have done full factory resets, iCloud restores, non-restore processes. I've tried everything under the sun, and nothing has a meaningful impact on my battery life. My Bluetooth is always off, my Wi-Fi is always on, my brightness is set to the lowest level and it adjusts higher when the room is bright. I'll well applications to know their location, but I don't use any navigation type applications except when I am driving.

It's so funny, because I literally don't know anyone who wouldn't say yes, I would love to have more battery life. And I ask a lot of people. Everyone's experience is their own, but this is what I do for living, and the survey results are unanimous. I asked two of my clients today and both of them agreed that they would rather have a phone that was as thick as the 4 models but had another four or more hours of battery life.
Tell me the rest of your settings and I'll get you a full day of battery life. First things first, turn off useless location tracking for almost all apps.

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Since it is obviously a trivial matter to build a phone with the exact same specs as an iPhone 5S sans the camera and 1/3rd of the battery, not only is it possible to make the iPhone 5S thinner, but it is indeed very easy to do so. It is just a matter of priorities.

Now please stop calling me delusional for stating obvious facts.



How is it easier to hold with one hand? What are you not able to do one handed with the current phone, but which you think that would be doable if the phone was 6.6 mm instead?

Weight is not a function of thickness alone, either. There are two other dimensions in play as well, plus the choice of materials. Do you think that the current iPhone is too heavy, then, or why do you need it to be lighter?
First of all you said they could easily make an iPhone as thick as a credit card, years ago. That's delusional anyway you look at it. Secondly it's obvious how it is easier to hold, and I already went over that. I don't think the current iPhone is too heavy, but it would be so much better if it were lighter. I know this in regards to thickness and weight, because I'm writing this comment on my iPod touch 5th gen which is incredibly thin, and much lighter. In no reality does this device not feel better than holding the iPhone 5S due to weight and thickness.
 
Yea screen size dosent really determine the amount of power needed to run these smartphones.

The pixels on the screens actually use nearly zero power, so more pixels does not linearly translate to more power, the most power hungry screen component on the screen are the LED Backlights.

The reason android phones need 3k mA batters are because of the power hungry un-optimized quad core over clocked CPUs that are no where as efficient in running the android OS as A class processors are for iOS.

If this report is true and assuming the A8 is built using a smaller fab process any increase in power from the larger iPhone 6 screen while be more than negated by the lower power consumption of the A8 compared to the A7. So if the battery is really 2100mA (which is 26% larger than iPhone 5S) than we could easily see a 30% increase in battery life.

So 7-8 hours typical usage on 5S could translate to 9-10 hours on the 6 and we might finally see true all day battery life on the iPhone finally!

You are contradicting yourself. The bigger the screen size, the more battery consumption. So no, 26% increase in battery size won't translate to a 30% increase in battery life with bigger screen.
 
If the majority of people are using their phone in a specific way, it is hardly the manufacturers or a forum member's place to dictate how that device should be used.

If more and more people are using their smartphones for more and more things, the manufacturer who recognizes that pattern and includes a bigger battery will only be responding to market forces. That would be the smart thing.

You assume that most people don't make it through the day. From all I know, the opposite is true, most people make it through the day on most days. That doesn't mean that maybe 20 or 30% don't. But without some evidence to the contrary, your position that most people behave differently than in Apple's internal planning sounds like bluster to me.
 
Better 2100 than 1810...because with 1810 the usage should be the same like iphone 5s...but with this extra we could get some 20-30% better usage

larger screen probably means comparable battery life and not 20% higher...
 
So then why not just engineer it with a 2800 mAh battery and blow away the competition on a key feature? Amazingly, the one area where they could derive a measurable value, shrinking the unused bezel area, they still have a ton of white space in.
Because they think they will make a larger number of customers happier with a smaller phone. And because they think they will sell more phones that way.
 
If you guys are having battery life problems, make sure you close your multitasking apps often. It just takes a double click of the home button, and a few swipes up. Also, if you're in an area of weak cellphone coverage, consider putting your phone in airplane mode. Otherwise it'll continuously search for a signal. You can really extend your battery life by quite a lot by being a little more intelligent about where your juice is going.

No effing chance I'm going to spend my valuable time doing that all day long like all the other monkeys I see doing it around me.

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Tell me the rest of your settings and I'll get you a full day of battery life. First things first, turn off useless location tracking for almost all apps.


None of my location tracking is useless. Nor is any of my USE. I am a professional at fixing computers and phones. I NEED every thing I do. ZERO games. ZERO streaming media. NO time spent in weak 3G/4G coverage (within 10 miles of DC all day every day).

You people make me sick. All you do is blame the user for actually using their phone. "Must be something you're doing wrong". EVERYONE I know complains about their iPhone battery life. It always runs out by the evening. I told a story earlier about a group of 8 of us who went to a concert last weekend and NONE of us had battery at the middle of the show except the two who put the phone into airplane mode. When I went to the bar afterward, I asked the bartender to charge my phone. No can do she said - because there were already TWO iphones using up their chargers!

You must live in some kind of dream world if you think only a small part of users run out of juice, because that world doesn't intersect with the one I live in even a little bit.
 
No effing chance I'm going to spend my valuable time doing that all day long like all the other monkeys I see doing it around me.

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None of my location tracking is useless. Nor is any of my USE. I am a professional at fixing computers and phones. I NEED every thing I do. ZERO games. ZERO streaming media. NO time spent in weak 3G/4G coverage (within 10 miles of DC all day every day).

You people make me sick. All you do is blame the user for actually using their phone. "Must be something you're doing wrong". EVERYONE I know complains about their iPhone battery life. It always runs out by the evening. I told a story earlier about a group of 8 of us who went to a concert last weekend and NONE of us had battery at the middle of the show except the two who put the phone into airplane mode. When I went to the bar afterward, I asked the bartender to charge my phone. No can do she said - because there were already TWO iphones using up their chargers!

You must live in some kind of dream world if you think only a small part of users run out of juice, because that world doesn't intersect with the one I live in even a little bit.

Lol...you are given suggestions to improve battery life and you dismiss them and call people who utilize them monkeys.

Why exactly do you own an iPhone? Why not get a phone with battery life?
 
Here's the thing, Apple has done more testing than you would care to know about.

Wait... Apple, a giant tech company does a massive amount of R&D?

Well, hell. I never would have thought of that.

Apple understands that the goal is to provide the vast majority of users, a battery life which will last them exactly 1 day (i.e. from the time they wake up, to the time they go to bed).


Not to nitpick, but a day is exactly 24 hours. Most people are awake 16-18 hours a day.

The fact is, they've provided that.

They haven't, actually. I know very few people for whom their iPhone lasts an entire day. Anecdotal, sure, but if I know 20 people and it only lasts a day for 18 of them, statistically it makes it unlikely that this will be very different from the general population assuming the people I know are a relatively random sample. This 18/20 is about right. And judging from these forums, I'm not alone.

It makes absolutely no sense to go beyond the 1 day battery life, because you simply charge it overnight... It would only ever make sense when there is new battery tech which will last days or weeks.

Actually in my estimation it surely does. My old flip phone lasted for days. Literally sometimes an entire week. This was very, very nice. I genuinely appreciated not having to charge it every day, nor worry about the battery. I didn't have to think about charging it before I went to bed. If I lost the charger, I had a week to find it.

Your claim that going beyond a day is pointless is more than a bit laughable. Not everyone is always in a situation where they have access to a charger when they need it. I know I haven't been.

The thing people need to do, when they can't get the battery to last a full day, is ask themselves why that is. Do you watch videos all day? If so, don't expect a full day of battery life, because remember, Apple isn't expecting the vast majority of users to be watching porn on their phones all day.

Bit of a silly thing to say. I doubt most videos viewed on iPhones are pornographic, not that it matters in terms of battery life. Plenty of people watch videos, sometimes as part of their job. You're basically telling people that if they do things on a regular basis that are CPU intensive, that their needs aren't valid. This is, in addition to arrogant, downright stupid. They're still valid consumers (they exist, they buy and use products, ergo they're "valid consumers") and so their needs matter insofar as any company ought to be concerned.

Do you use one of the worst things ever created by man...Facebook?

On my phone? Rarely if ever. However, I'm not sure how it being "one of the worst things ever created by man" is relevant (and honestly if you believe *Facebook* is one of the worst things created by man, you need a serious priority check), but given that 500+ million people use it, and I'm going to guess 100+ million (wild guess) use it on their phone, it's a "valid" use from a consumer standpoint.

Then don't use that, because it's embarrassingly awful, and the app kills battery life I've heard.

Your argument is getting more and more flimsy, and sounding more and more as though it were written by a non-native teenage speaker. Regardless, I do not use Facebook.

If you use it normally, then you need to google, or find the person's comment which I saw earlier, showing the common mistakes people make with too many unnecessary features killing their battery. For example I feel bad for anyone with Facebook, and not knowing what background app refresh is, because they might have that on, and that's like doomsday for your battery.

Again with the infantile thing and vague references. Anyway, no I don't use facebook. I have my iPhone set on 3G permanently, I have the screen turned down to 30% most of the time, bluetooth and location services off, and I quit unused background apps. Still don't get much life out of it. Unless you want to tell me Cydia/jailbreak is a huge battery killer.

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People buy laptops because they are faster than ultra books. People buy desktops because they don't need portability. People buy paper because it doesn't require any power and is cheap. I thought my reasoning was clear.

Obviously. But your argument was that thinner was better no matter what, with the sole exception of battery life.

My point was the one you've just made. There are valid reasons for wanting performance over form other than battery life. And for some people thinner just isn't all that comfortable.
 
technology evolves should everything stay the same thickness? they will continue to get smaller thats just what happens.

No everything shouldn't. The battery should have gotten thicker.

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Majority of people who need a better battery don't know how to usr their phone.

Manufacturers wouldn't distribute a device that had 4 hours of battery life with average use.

People who need better battery life because they are heavy users who prefer to push their phones to the limit should by one or two portable chargers. You sprinted to the finish line.. Now wait patiently for technology to catch up.

I know its early in the year, but I feel rather safe saying this wins the most retarded post of the year award.
 
It's all good. Already get almost 2 days on my 5S quite consistently, so I'm sure the 6 will have decent battery life.

What alomost 48hrs on, or you turn it off at night? or do you never have WIFI, BT or emails on at all, as 2 days is impossible if not.
 
Ha ha...by "where do you go from there" I meant thickness from paper thin. I'm not saying they won't or couldn't come up with new form factors for a phone. I am talking about the thickness of this type of phone. To me a phone the thickness of cardboard would be horribly non-erogonomic and I think non-ergonomic starts well before you get that thin. I really question the value. Other than being able to roll up a phone into something easier to store which we are certainly nowhere near yet in the current thickness I just don't understand the value to the user. Certainly the value of a longer lasting battery is obvious. Particularly when they have improved the app development and quality and size of the screen so that people spend so much more time doing power intensive tasks on them.

Again, the point is you reach a point of diminishing returns on thinness where it just doesn't provide value to the user and even cross the threshold where making it less ergonomic actually causes a negative impact. All the engineering they have done to allow for thin light phones now allows them the space to include a battery that, along with the efficiency of the iOS ecosystem, would blow away the competition in a feature area that is one of the most important to users.

Correction: it's one of the most important feature areas for SOME users. I'm a user, and I'm not letting you set my priorities for me. I have my own.

You may be right that Apple would have a competitive advantage if they kept the same thickness and used the space for the battery (but since all indications are that they are more interested in pleasing me than they are in pleasing you, it's just a thought experiment).

There were those who said Apple should have included a physical keyboard, or used haptic feedback, or facial recognition. If only Apple TRIED including these very useful features, then their sales would skyrocket. But Apple doesn't really listen to its users (or at least they didn't listen to THESE users).

It's because Jony Ive is pathologically obsessed with not having physical keyboards. He's actually has a medically diagnosed aversion to physical keyboards. That's the only possible explanation for his sick refusal (exhibited year after year) to add a physical keyboard to the iPhone.

Or, if you like, replace "physical keyboard" with "ginormous battery" or "facial recognition" in the above paragraph.

It's not just Jony Ive that's keeping you from having extended battery life (unless you add your own battery extension). It's also other users, REAL apple users, who like the direction things are going.

I'm looking forward to the future paper-thin iPhone that curls at the edges and becomes rigid to give me a comfortable grip when I use it as a phone or camera, but becomes soft and unbreakable when I slip it into my back pocket.The iPhone that takes pictures that rival today's DSLRs using plenoptics and advanced image processing, and draws power from wireless power transmission, solar energy, or the warmth of my hand or buttocks, to charge its less-than-paper-thin battery.
 
Wait... Apple, a giant tech company does a massive amount of R&D?

Well, hell. I never would have thought of that.




Not to nitpick, but a day is exactly 24 hours. Most people are awake 16-18 hours a day.



They haven't, actually. I know very few people for whom their iPhone lasts an entire day. Anecdotal, sure, but if I know 20 people and it only lasts a day for 18 of them, statistically it makes it unlikely that this will be very different from the general population assuming the people I know are a relatively random sample. This 18/20 is about right. And judging from these forums, I'm not alone.



Actually in my estimation it surely does. My old flip phone lasted for days. Literally sometimes an entire week. This was very, very nice. I genuinely appreciated not having to charge it every day, nor worry about the battery. I didn't have to think about charging it before I went to bed. If I lost the charger, I had a week to find it.

Your claim that going beyond a day is pointless is more than a bit laughable. Not everyone is always in a situation where they have access to a charger when they need it. I know I haven't been.



Bit of a silly thing to say. I doubt most videos viewed on iPhones are pornographic, not that it matters in terms of battery life. Plenty of people watch videos, sometimes as part of their job. You're basically telling people that if they do things on a regular basis that are CPU intensive, that their needs aren't valid. This is, in addition to arrogant, downright stupid. They're still valid consumers (they exist, they buy and use products, ergo they're "valid consumers") and so their needs matter insofar as any company ought to be concerned.



On my phone? Rarely if ever. However, I'm not sure how it being "one of the worst things ever created by man" is relevant (and honestly if you believe *Facebook* is one of the worst things created by man, you need a serious priority check), but given that 500+ million people use it, and I'm going to guess 100+ million (wild guess) use it on their phone, it's a "valid" use from a consumer standpoint.



Your argument is getting more and more flimsy, and sounding more and more as though it were written by a non-native teenage speaker. Regardless, I do not use Facebook.



Again with the infantile thing and vague references. Anyway, no I don't use facebook. I have my iPhone set on 3G permanently, I have the screen turned down to 30% most of the time, bluetooth and location services off, and I quit unused background apps. Still don't get much life out of it. Unless you want to tell me Cydia/jailbreak is a huge battery killer.

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Obviously. But your argument was that thinner was better no matter what, with the sole exception of battery life.

My point was the one you've just made. There are valid reasons for wanting performance over form other than battery life. And for some people thinner just isn't all that comfortable.

Okay clearly you didn't understand a single thing I said, which is fine, can't expect too much. Going beyond a day is pointless with current tech is what I said. It's laughable that you didn't understand what I meant. "Not to nitpick, but a day is exactly 24 hours. Most people are awake 16-18 hours a day." This alone tells me you are of a child's maturity level... like you didn't know 1 day is referring to 1 day of the average person's smartphone usage, which is no more than 10-12 hours, and likely more around 8-10 hours on average (if that).

Anyway like I've told others, please post your settings, in fact we need a post your settings thread so we can help the people that have no idea why they have abysmal battery life, and complain constantly about it.

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Correction: it's one of the most important feature areas for SOME users. I'm a user, and I'm not letting you set my priorities for me. I have my own.

You may be right that Apple would have a competitive advantage if they kept the same thickness and used the space for the battery (but since all indications are that they are more interested in pleasing me than they are in pleasing you, it's just a thought experiment).

There were those who said Apple should have included a physical keyboard, or used haptic feedback, or facial recognition. If only Apple TRIED including these very useful features, then their sales would skyrocket. But Apple doesn't really listen to its users (or at least they didn't listen to THESE users).

It's because Jony Ive is pathologically obsessed with not having physical keyboards. He's actually has a medically diagnosed aversion to physical keyboards. That's the only possible explanation for his sick refusal (exhibited year after year) to add a physical keyboard to the iPhone.

Or, if you like, replace "physical keyboard" with "ginormous battery" or "facial recognition" in the above paragraph.

It's not just Jony Ive that's keeping you from having extended battery life (unless you add your own battery extension). It's also other users, REAL apple users, who like the direction things are going.

I'm looking forward to the future paper-thin iPhone that curls at the edges and becomes rigid to give me a comfortable grip when I use it as a phone or camera, but becomes soft and unbreakable when I slip it into my back pocket.The iPhone that takes pictures that rival today's DSLRs using plenoptics and advanced image processing, and draws power from wireless power transmission, solar energy, or the warmth of my hand or buttocks, to charge its less-than-paper-thin battery.

A physical keyboard attached to the iPhone? Couldn't be a worse idea. It's a touchscreen device, a keyboard is for a blackberry. If you need a keyboard get a blackberry, and the other 99.9% of customers will go along happy as ever with a virtual keyboard. The things you think Jony Ive would never do because he simply doesn't like them, are actually things Apple wouldn't do, because they are not intelligent ideas.
 
What alomost 48hrs on, or you turn it off at night? or do you never have WIFI, BT or emails on at all, as 2 days is impossible if not.

Yes, this one I keep on 24/7. Before "do not disturb" and on my iPhone4 I did shut down at night. Haven't done so since IOS7. My email is full manual, wifi on 24/7, blue tooth active during the day for my Samsung HM1300. Other than that settings are tweaked to perfection. useless crap turned off. All apps are closed after use. Don't leave apps running in the background ever. brightness manual at 25% unless I go out then I move it up. I'm retired and only really use the phone, text, calendar/weather, email and banking apps daily. So not a power user by any means. I set my daughters 4S up and she easily gets a day, sometimes close to 2. This is more impressive as she works daily and is on 3G mostly. Currently I'm at 40% and I was fully charged very early yesterday morning. I say, it's all about the apps one runs and most importantly the settings. So not impossible. :)
 
Perhaps you're holding it wrong?

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This will be great though, it's about time we got better battery life.
 
No effing chance I'm going to spend my valuable time doing that all day long like all the other monkeys I see doing it around me.

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None of my location tracking is useless. Nor is any of my USE. I am a professional at fixing computers and phones. I NEED every thing I do. ZERO games. ZERO streaming media. NO time spent in weak 3G/4G coverage (within 10 miles of DC all day every day).

You people make me sick. All you do is blame the user for actually using their phone. "Must be something you're doing wrong". EVERYONE I know complains about their iPhone battery life. It always runs out by the evening. I told a story earlier about a group of 8 of us who went to a concert last weekend and NONE of us had battery at the middle of the show except the two who put the phone into airplane mode. When I went to the bar afterward, I asked the bartender to charge my phone. No can do she said - because there were already TWO iphones using up their chargers!

You must live in some kind of dream world if you think only a small part of users run out of juice, because that world doesn't intersect with the one I live in even a little bit.

Omg there were two iPhones using chargers?! That definitely means iPhones have bad battery life!!! Oh wait, that's as much science concerning iPhone battery life as Donald Trump knows about climate change, which is to say..none. Seriously though, what are your usage numbers? How many hours does it say usage for today?
 
A physical keyboard attached to the iPhone? Couldn't be a worse idea. It's a touchscreen device, a keyboard is for a blackberry. If you need a keyboard get a blackberry, and the other 99.9% of customers will go along happy as ever with a virtual keyboard. The things you think Jony Ive would never do because he simply doesn't like them, are actually things Apple wouldn't do, because they are not intelligent ideas.

Okay clearly you didn't understand a single thing I said, which is fine, can't expect too much.
 
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