Report Claims Apple's Original Programming Efforts Will Avoid Mature Content

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple is unlikely to produce original content that contains gratuitous sex, violence, profanity, or risqué storylines, according to a report published over the weekend by the Wall Street Journal.

    The article cites several sources familiar with Apple's original programming plans who say Apple wants to avoid putting its name to anything that could risk tainting its wider brand image.


    It also relates CEO Tim Cook's alleged reaction to watching Apple's first scripted drama, "Vital Signs," a semi-autobiographical tale of hip hop artist Dr Dre.

    According to the paper's sources, Cook previewed the show and was "troubled" by scenes depicting drawn guns, sex and drug use, and reportedly told Apple Music executive Jimmy Iovine that Apple couldn't show it.
    Apple's approach is in direct contrast to that of other streaming platforms, which have found great success in producing edgy content like HBO's "Game of Thrones" and Netflix's "House of Cards." However, Apple apparently feels it has more to lose if viewers are offended by its entertainment offering.

    "As a consumer-product company, Apple is especially exposed if content strikes a sour note," said Preston Beckman, a former NBC and Fox programming executive who spoke to WSJ. "For Netflix, the only risk is that people don't subscribe. With Apple, you can say, 'I'm going to punish them by not buying their phone or computer.'"

    Apple has hired former Sony Pictures TV executives Jamie Erlicht and Zack Van Amburg to head up the company's broader push into original video programming. Erlicht and Van Amburg have helped produce shows like "Better Call Saul," "The Crown," "Sneaky Pete," and more.

    According to the report, Van Amburg and Erlicht have successfully pushed some edgier shows, including a series made by M. Night Shyamalan about a couple who lose a young child. However, Apple executives reportedly pushed for changes in the show because they didn't want content to venture into religious subjects or politics.

    Similar concerns over keeping content "safe" have reportedly contributed to delays in Apple's original content streaming, which has been postponed twice and is now expected to launch in March 2019. However, one leading producer with projects at Apple expects the date to be pushed back yet further, according to the latest report.

    Apple is known to have invested in at least 12 television shows so far. They include a new animated TV series called "Central Park" and an untitled morning show drama starring Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon. According to WSJ, however, the latter is delayed because of scheduling issues with Witherspoon.

    Apple's original TV shows are expected to be distributed through a new video streaming service, which could also be bundled with an Apple Music subscription and a digital magazine and news subscription.

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  2. Steve121178 macrumors 601


    Apr 13, 2010
    Bedfordshire, UK
    So we can forget getting some CGI porn such as iDebbie Does Dallas?
  3. NIKKG macrumors 6502


    Feb 23, 2012
  4. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    Fine by me, Apple’s prerogative.

    There are plenty of shows I like which have mature content, but it seems almost every new show these days is some gritty reimagining and boy does that get old quick.

    If I try to watch something new I find it’s a bit tedious to sit through needless nudity shoehorned in, or exaggerated violence, just to wait for a plot to evolve.
  5. Tiger8 macrumors 68020

    May 23, 2011
    Remember when Apple claimed they are going to change the way we watch Tv?

    They did! Oh wait, Netflix did, and so did hulu and amazon, and now Apple is playing catchup
  6. RamGuy macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2011
    I have never understood why Apple is so opposed to mature content? There is no sexual content allowed on the AppStore etc.. Why do they feel the need to censor this content? There is nothing illegal with mature and adult content.

    Same goes for various other utilities such as torrentclients? Why are they not allowed? There is nothing illegal or wrong with peer-to-peer transfers and protocols. Why censor the AppStore in such a way? I don't feel the need for such utilities on my phone, but if Apple's goal is to make iOS being the future of computing, meaning that somewhere down the line it should replace my notebooks and desktops they can't continue filtering everything through the AppStore while also playing moral police and censor perfectly legal content just because of some strange reason they feel opposed by the content.
  7. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Oct 23, 2010
    They are already playing to loose. They shouldn't explicitly rule it out. The risk is that the shows won't be entertaining enough to capture an audience.
  8. arkitect macrumors 603


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    I'm with Apple on this.
    Good decision. N
    --- Post Merged, Sep 24, 2018 ---
    Why does sex and violence equate entertainment?
  9. franciscosjb macrumors newbie


    Jul 25, 2012
    Mexico City - Kobol
  10. eggzachtly macrumors newbie

    May 24, 2018
    Honestly it just seems like they are too lazy to build parental controls/content filtering the way Netflix and Hulu have been able to. I'm pretty sure Apple of all companies could develop algorithms that would not show people content that contain nudity, violence, etc. I totally understand why people don't want to see certain content, but isn't there a better way that would cater to a broader audience?
  11. DoctorTech macrumors 6502


    Jan 6, 2014
    Indianapolis, IN
    I respect and applaud Apple's decision on this. I don't view it as "censorship" at all. They are not preventing anyone else from producing (or viewing) mature content, they are simply saying they don't want to be associated with it.
  12. Eriamjh1138@DAN macrumors 6502


    Sep 16, 2007
    BFE, MI
  13. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    Because there’s literally no other way you can show that two people are in a relationship, unless you have an excruciatingly drawn out nude scene between them. Duh.
  14. chucker23n1 macrumors 68000


    Dec 7, 2014
    This might be Apple's USP. The market is already getting a little crowded.

    That said, I'm not particularly into a G-rated streaming service.

    It doesn't, but pretending that sex and violence aren't part of life isn't very entertaining.
  15. radiology macrumors 6502


    Feb 11, 2014
    Westlake, OH
    Definitely with Tim on this one. Too much garbage out there exploiting sex and violence.
  16. b0nd18t macrumors 6502


    Apr 9, 2012
    I remember Walmart doing this with music CD’s. Was effective in censoring artists as not being in Walmart at the time was a big hit.
  17. Stella macrumors G3


    Apr 21, 2003
    Boring. Another reason not to subscribe.

    For a subscription service to survive, it needs a variety of content, not just ‘family friendly’. It will get boring. Apple are not the next Netflix, who had enough content to cater for all.
  18. cfurlin macrumors regular


    Jun 14, 2011
    Maybe you're not familiar with the word 'gratuitous'?
  19. WinstonRumfoord macrumors 6502

    Mar 27, 2014
    While I do agree that there is far too much senseless violence and gratuitous sex on TV these days, I think a hardline zero-tolerance approach is a losing strategy.

    It is entirely possible to have well incorporated violence and tastefully done sex scenes to move a plot forward. THINK: The Godfather.

    Also, I can’t believe Apple would move forward with a Dr Dre show and not expect it to contain sex and violence. The man built his career around glorifying casual (and sometimes not quite consensual) sex and wanton violence. There is no question that he has led a less than moral life creating very immoral products, I mean, Dee Barnes.

    And I am a big fan of his!!
  20. ChrisCW11 macrumors 65816

    Jul 21, 2011
    Meh, so far there are like 1 or maybe 2 "original" content rumors that are interesting but overall the whole platform is lacking and I refuse to subscribe to it. If they have a few hits like GoT or others, in spite of a G rating mandate, then it will be interesting but for now I just don't find anything Apple doing in this category is compelling to get the service.

    In general I tire of the Disneyfication of entertainment and companies like Apple trying to sugar coat everything. I am an adult and mature and want content that is gritty and intense from time to time. It doesn't have to be vulgar or brutal, but it also doesn't have to be full of princesses and fairies and unrealistic Normal Rockwell families. There is too much of that crap pandering to families and honestly it is more because certain distributors are simply afraid of special interest conservative groups who think they need to parent your children better then you can.
  21. 69Mustang macrumors 603


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    MR omitted the best quote in the WSJ article: "...and the Journal writes that Apple’s own staff in Los Angeles have begun referring to the streaming project as “expensive NBC."
    True it is Apple's prerogative. But if rumors be true, it's not just mature content. Reportedly, the changes to the M. Night series involved having the crucifixes removed. Basically, it sounds as if Apple is going for a mix between Nick Jr and Lifetime/Own.

    Everything Apple does has to viewed through the lens of how it will affect their phone sales. This entertainment venture is going to be handicapped because of it. Imo, a successful venture has a mix of offerings, from kid friendly to avant garde. When a portion of the potential offerings are expressly verboten, the venture is hobbled from the start. Hobbled... like Misery... which funnily enough, probably wouldn't be eligible for Apple's network.
  22. shareef777 macrumors 68020


    Jul 26, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    If you think there’s too much “smut” on TV, then you should get off the internet!
  23. Stella macrumors G3


    Apr 21, 2003
    Don’t watch it then. Simple.

    Apple can still offer such content.

  24. ninethirty macrumors 6502a

    Mar 1, 2006
    What's the weather like at that retirement home you live at in Florida?

  25. 69Mustang macrumors 603


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    I don't think they are saying that at all. Apple has no problem being associated with mature content as long as they can get paid from it without it affecting hardware sales. You can buy and rent all types of content from iTunes. Apple will gladly accept your funds for it. So yeah, they'll associate with it all day long.

    They just want nothing controversial affecting this: :apple:

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