Exactly. Google has NO problem sharing ALL of your ‘private’ data with not only the manufacturer, but anyone who will pay them! We know from past interactions that Apple won’t do that…another reason why both the EU and US want to force allowing other software onto their devices (snooping and data collection for profit, manipulation, and perhaps terror).
And GM isn't exactly trustworthy either.
Really? Jeez.
I travel often and rent cars on most of those trips and my first question when I pick up a car is "Can I use CarPlay?" If I can't, I don't want it. Looks like I won't be renting any 2024+ GM cars, and I have zero intention in buying or leasing a car without CarPlay support either.
I mean, that's a personal preference thing. CarPlay is very high on my list of must haves.
You realize I am talking about "controlling" the odometer, speedometer, and HVAC rather than "displaying" the values. Not sure if OBD2 can be used to control car functions such as speedometer and odometer rather than display it.
You tell me. Apple wants to control those functions in the car with the carplay going forward. I am seeing a lot of things that could go wrong. Could you not? Something so simple as airtags had so many things going wrong. What could go wrong if Apple controlled a 4000-pound object hurtling at 90 mph?
Yes, GM is showing it’s true colors as a greedy privacy-swilling swine who wants ALL of your user data to resell and target. And we all know that so-called ‘deidentified’ data is not truly anonymous. They’ll be able to determine everything about you, from your medical history to reading, watching, listening, discussion history—just ‘perfect’ for more ‘accidental’ privacy leaks, hacks, and oh-no-we-left-your-info-on-an-unsecured-public-server(AGAIN).Here's another article with some more quotes and info from folks at GM-
An inside look at General Motors' massive gamble in ditching CarPlay
A little over a year ago, General Motors made what may well turn out to be one of its biggest...9to5mac.com
The tl;dr is that Android Auto allows Car Manufacturers the ability to view more of your Location Data so that they can sell it for ad revenue, while Apple's "future OS" that no one wants to use does NOT allow Car Manufacturers the ability to peruse all of that sweet sweet location data to sell for ad revenue.
It helps to be informed as to WHY these decisions are being made.
but if you could get a car with a heated windscreen, 4 wheel drive, and carplay, wouldn’t you pick that one?
The phone doesnt control the odometer or speedometer, it just displays the values
Did you expect them to say that they are going discontinue CarPlay when they do not have a product ready? Let us how things will be once they have a good enough product ready. Not everyone is like Apple who would ditch products without a good replacement (Apple maps)
You should read the attached verge article. I am not paraphrasing; I am directly copy pasting the statement in the article.
I am talking abou this.
Ford’s CEO literally just loudly trashed GM’s and said the horse has left the stable. Walking that back would be a PR nightmare. There are also more tangible things, like on ford cars you can relatively easily disable the built in cell modem by pulling a dedicated fuse for telematics, cant do that on newer GM designs. The other companies have similar statements and designs to ford
That "If" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this article...
I think you’re misreading what control means. They mean it controls the actual display, not the data that powers it. The meter is, technically, the dial, which apple would control when carplay is active, but they dont control the speed readings or mileage count from the car’s computer. They get read only access to the data source
Failing to understand how your comment is actually a response to my comment.
Sorry.As I said, it is verbatim what the verge article says. If they were not controlling, what objection would MB have in allowing carplay access to all its screens?
I shall tell you. I've decided you're being deliberately obtuse.
What's even worse Mercedes is going to sell Your data to Google via Google maps. I was considering a Merc, but am now looking elsewhereWell, considering that Mercedes-Benz is also not going to let CarPlay in, due to reasons specified by CEO Ola Källenius in the following interview, I doubt others would let CarPlay in too. Their reasons will apply to all the others too.
Mercedes-Benz won’t let Apple CarPlay take over all its screens
No Apple screen takeover in Mercedes-Benz.www.theverge.com
Apple wanted to control core functions of the vehicle like HVAC, as well as the speedometer and odometer.
"But Mercedes doesn’t appear to be in any rush to follow its luxury vehicle peers in letting Apple dominate the in-car experience for its customers. Instead, Källenius said that the company is working closely with Apple’s main rival, Google, in designing a new navigation feature that will be built on Google Maps. The key difference there is that Mercedes’ own engineering team will be heavily involved in the process."
