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Who even blows money on non-physical music?? What a waste of money, especially when you can get it so easily elsewhere. If I'm going to buy music, it'll be a CD or record I can display and use, not easily available digital files.

Well, most of us have scruples and don't steal music, for one. And I don't own a record or cd player and aren't interested in storing all those physical media. It's bad enough I have a bunch of old records gathering dust in my basement.
 
I stopped purchasing music from the iTunes store years ago since I still buy cds. One of my pet peeves was when I pre-ordered an album and some songs are released as a single. Once the full album is released, the singles are never put back in the full album.

Anyways, once Apple decides to stop people from downloading I will install the only Apple product off my PC. I don't want to pay a monthly fee to stream music that I don't own.
 
So save the music for offline listening? So many misinformed people in this thread who don't understand how all modern streaming services work. You can save music offline. Spotify has done this for many years, Apple Music launched with the feature.

Or, you can save the music you already bought onto your device and listen to it anywhere, anytime, for free.
 
About 3/4 of my 2TB music library are recordings not commercially available, including out of print discs, live events, studio outtakes, and demos. itunes match found less than half of the remaining 1/4.

Streaming, even if I could find a cell connection and get it to stream when I'm out travelling & relaxing, which I usually can't, is worthless.
 
Because you can only put music that you own on those. If you can only stream from Apple Music, you cannot add the songs you download from it to a non-iOS iPod. I use Apple Music and have added dozens of albums to my iTunes library, but my wife cannot add those songs to her iPod shuffle....she can add them to her iPhone, but does not like to use it while running.
Apple isn't the only source of music so you won't be forced to use Apple Music.
 
This would be a very stupid move. A better move would be to Divorce the subscription from Apple Music. I don't want that , keep it separate from the music that is paid for. Call me a dinosaur but I like to give money to artists for making quality music. Not everyone has unlimited data and access to stream all the time.
I refuse to believe this rumor
 
If that happens and they don't provide a worthwhile experience for those who keep their collections, ripped CDs, downloads or whatever, I'll leave iTunes behind.

And the less programs there are that keep me interested in Mac and iOS...
Go figure.

Maybe it's not all that bad that Apple keeps ****ing up...
Gets rid of a lot of the emotional attachment, switching will be a bit easier should it become necessary.

Glassed Silver:mac

PS: (I know iTunes is on Windows, but you know... iTunes for Windows right...)
 
Y'know, it seems like there's increasingly little that comes out of Apple any more than excites or interests me. More likely, it's stuff like this that just confirms to me that Apple and I have drifted apart. I recently switched from an iPhone 5 that I'd had for three years to an Android phone (Nexus 5X) and I really like it. I've already decided to switch from buying my music from iTunes and Amazon (the two sources I'd been using for years) over to 320kbps MP3s from Google Play. At some point, I'll probably replace my mid-2010 iMac (which has been the most troublesome computer I've ever owned after having two very good iMacs before it) with a simpler lower-cost Chromebox/Chromebook now that Chrome OS can also run offline Android apps. I used to be such an Apple fan but all my Apple devices (which also include an iPad Air and Apple TV 3) never worked together/synced as well as they were supposed to. And the superior UIs and simplicity of UX that used to set Apple apart has gradually faded away. I'm not even sure what Apple's vision for the future is but it doesn't seem to be where I want to go anymore...
 
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Eh. Not much of an impact now or in the future for me. I pay 7.99/month for Google Music and buy CDs of my top-tier favorite artists. The synergy between the owning/"renting" dynamic is perfect for me.

I still think streaming services for 10 bucks a month is amazing bang for your buck. All that music for the price of a (typical) new CD? Completely worth it if you love music. And offline ability renders the data cap argument moot.
 
Eh. Not much of an impact now or in the future for me. I pay 7.99/month for Google Music and buy CDs of my top-tier favorite artists. The synergy between the owning/"renting" dynamic is perfect for me.

I still think streaming services for 10 bucks a month is amazing bang for your buck. All that music for the price of a (typical) new CD? Completely worth it if you love music. And offline ability renders the data cap argument moot.

If you spend at least $10 a month on downloads/CDs anyhow, and plan to do that every month for the rest of your life, then yes, it's a better deal to go the subscription route (assuming that all of the music you want is available on the subscription service and will remain so indefinitely).
 
Y'know, it seems like there's increasingly little that comes out of Apple any more than excites or interests me. More likely, it's stuff like this that just confirms to me that Apple and I have drifted apart. I recently switched from an iPhone 5 that I'd had for three years to an Android phone (Nexus 5X) and I really like it. I've already decided to switch from buying my music from iTunes and Amazon (the two sources I'd been using for years) over to 320kbps MP3s from Google Play. At some point, I'll probably replace my mid-2010 iMac (which has been the most troublesome computer I've ever owned after having two very good iMacs before it) with a simpler lower-cost Chromebox/Chromebook now that Chrome OS can also run offline Android apps. I used to be such an Apple fan but all my Apple devices (which also include an iPad Air and Apple TV 3) never worked together/synced as well as they were supposed to. And the superior UIs and simplicity of UX that used to set Apple apart has gradually faded away. I'm not even sure what Apple's vision for the future is but it doesn't seem to be where I want to go anymore...

I feel the same. Apple has provided good tools for me the last 25 years, but they are definitely going places I don't care about. Were it not for a significant investment in Mac only software, I'd be switching to Windows next round for sure. As it is, I'm stuck with Macs until retirement (in 6 years or so).

But, when it comes to phones and other tech, my first look will be to other vendors.
 
Well. if the record labels fear as much as they do about piracy good luck with getting all record labels to stream at all..

These people still live the 1970's...... They still think its all to easy to take music of a service, which i can say for sure... it *is easy* to do....

But if Apple forces artists to Apple music in that time, i expect they will have *less* content, not more.

Since we all know streaming equals loss sales, or so they think..

How many artists are only on Apple music and now compare that with those on the iTunes store u can buy songs ..
 
If they were truly DRM free.. they wouldn't contain "Purchased by" in the file info and would play just fine if added to my other iTunes account.. which they don't play at all unless I authorize the computer with the previous account. So...

You probably don't have the updated files that are 256 kbps versus 128 kbps bit rate. The ladder is DRMed from the rooter to the tooter.
 
I think zero chance of this happening until connectivity as assured as the air we breath. On the contrary even Apple Music allows for download for offline listening. I can't see purchase options going either, since not everyone can justify a monthly subscription to make sure they don't miss Adele 28 or whatever.
 
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But there's lots of content on iTunes that isn't available on Apple Music. They can't just ditch iTunes until their licenses are solid.
 
How about we upgrade downloads to non-compressed format? Then all the new Lightning cabled headphones will have better source material to listen to. Seems odd Apple appears to be moving in one positive direction and then unwilling to create the whole ecosystem it needs to take advantage of the change.
 
Why is it that in the last few years, Apple kills off only the things that are truly great: like the 17" MBP for example. I understand that not many people bought 17" laptops... But die hard apple fans did. The same die hard fans who promote apple to the world more than any apple marketing effort. Furthermore, watch any Hollywood film from say... 2005-2012. If there's a computer appearing in the film, 9 times out of 10, it's a 17" MBP.

Downloading music is no different. Even if sales dwindle, the fact remains that some people want to actually own something rather than pay for access via streaming. Apple should pay more attention to the core supporters of their products. 17" MBP and now this. Steve would not approve.
It doesn't make enough money to justify the cost. That's why. Did you really need someone to tell you that?

Steve Jobs: "People want to own their music"
That was how long ago? I argue that it should read "OLD People want to own their music"

EDIT:

https://musicmachinery.com/2014/02/13/age-specific-listening/
 
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Or when you're on an airplane, on a cruise ship, or anywhere else where you have no Internet access.

Totally unacceptable.
[doublepost=1465399954][/doublepost]I refuse to pay Apple and then also pay Verizon for bandwidth to listen to MY music.
You can store the music on your device. I have Apple Music and yet to stream anything. I put the music on my phone and I am set, no data required.
 
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