Report: iTunes Movies and iBooks Stores in China Ordered Closed by Chinese State Agency

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by MacRumors, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Last week, the iTunes Movies and iBooks stores mysteriously went down in China. A new New York Times report says the stores were forced down by the Chinese State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television.

    An Apple spokeswoman said the company "hoped to make books and movies available again to our customers in China as soon as possible." The store closures come six months after they were launched alongside Apple Music in the country.

    Compared to other tech companies, Apple has had success in launching new ventures in the China. Most recently, Apple launched Apple Pay in the country in partnership with UnionPay, China's state-run interbank network.

    After the shutdown of the two stores, China's President Xi Jinping conducted a meeting on China's restrictive internet policies with Alibaba's Jack Ma, Huawei's Ren Zhengfei and other tech leaders in the country, according to The NYT. Daniel H. Rosen, a founding partner at Rhodium Group, a firm that specializes in the Chinese economy, tells The New York Times that China has an interest in promoting Chinese tech companies while attempting to reduce the impact of foreign tech giants like Apple in the country.

    Apple is one of eight companies that China has targeted for being "too deeply established in the country's core industries" according to The New York Times. Other companies on China's list include IBM, Qualcomm and Microsoft. Earlier today it was reported that local Chinese handset makers like Huawei faced inventory losses and squeezed market share following the launch of the iPhone SE.

    Apple has worked to grow its business in China, now its second biggest market, spending several years in negotiations with China Mobile, the country's largest carrier, to bring the iPhone to its 700 million customers. The two agreed to a deal in 2013. Tim Cook has also made several visits to the country, with Apple also planning to expand its retail efforts.

    Last November, when asked whether Apple had run into censorship problems in China, Eddy Cue said that the company had a "great working relationship" with China and that the launch of Apple Music and the iTunes Movies and iBooks stores showed that Apple knew how to work in the country.

    4/22 update: The Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post has linked the store closures to the release of controversial independent movie Ten Years, which won best picture prize at this month's Hong Kong Film Awards, despite being banned in China. News of the store closures broke shortly before the movie became available on iTunes in Hong Kong. The dystopian film imagines Hong Kong in 2025 with language police, mini Red Guards, radical protest and social alienation rife.

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  2. macrumors 68000

    May 25, 2012
    Sometimes you just gotta keep your people under control. How else are you supposed to brainwash them if they can see the rest of the world.
  3. swingerofbirch macrumors 68040

    Oct 24, 2003
    The Amalgamated States of Central North America
    I doubt it's that. More likely to protect nascent industries.
  4. DeepIn2U macrumors 603


    May 30, 2002
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  5. goobot macrumors 603


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
    Just slowly move manufacturing to other countries every time the Chinese government cries about stuff like this. They will have no other choice but to accept it then.
  6. RadioGaGa1984 Suspended


    May 23, 2015
    Coming to a USSA near you, if some have their way.
  7. aaronvan Suspended


    Dec 21, 2011
    República Cascadia
    Commies to the left of me, Islamists to the right.
    Here I am stuck in the middle with you.
  8. jonnysods macrumors 603


    Sep 20, 2006
    There & Back Again
  9. applefan69 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 9, 2007
    You would think Apple and China would get along perfectly considering they both know whats right for me.
  10. scott523, Apr 21, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2016

    scott523 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 8, 2006
    Saint Charles, MO
    Cheap shot by China. Perhaps this is payback for Apple refusing to give up their source code. :rolleyes:
  11. maxsix Suspended


    Jun 28, 2015
    Western Hemisphere
    Even Apple must eventually face reality.

    So much for "Magical and Revolutionary"
  12. CPx macrumors 6502

    Sep 6, 2013
    They must have spotted a book about Tiananmen Square.
  13. haruhiko macrumors 601


    Sep 29, 2009
    China's banning/blocking of foreign tech companies has more to do with protectionism, for example, the banning of Facebook/Twitter/Instagram left the market to Sina (Weibo) / Weixin (Tecent WeChat), the banning of Google left the market to Baidu, and the banning of Line/Facebook Messenger left the market to Weixin.
  14. \-V-/ Suspended


    May 3, 2012
    No, I just think they enjoy banning things:
  15. macfacts macrumors 68030


    Oct 7, 2012

    Most normal people don't own shell companies, only rich people and rich businesses. Apple invents all their patents in USA, sells them for pennies to an Irish shell company. Taxes Uncle Sam collects on that are fractions of a penny.

    That shell company then licenses those patents to Apple for billions. The shell company makes billions and pays taxes in other countries while Apple uses those patent expenses as further tax deductions in USA.
  16. filmantopia macrumors 6502a


    Feb 5, 2010
    Censorship is pretty bad in the U.S. too unfortunately. Not as bad a China.
  17. indychris macrumors 6502


    Apr 19, 2010
    Fort Wayne, IN
    If ya strike a deal with the devil, then don't be surprised when they start acting devilish.
  18. JeffyTheQuik macrumors 68020


    Aug 27, 2014
    Charleston, SC and Everett, WA
    Be careful when your leaders go extra-Constitutional.

    This is the end result.

    The Constitution was written to restrict the Government, not the People. Your favorite Amendment (say, the First...) and mine (let's say, the 19th... or the 2nd...) may be different, but a violation of one just makes it easier to break the rest.
  19. Mums Suspended


    Oct 4, 2011
    No, it's exactly that.
    --- Post Merged, Apr 21, 2016 ---
    Spot on.
    --- Post Merged, Apr 21, 2016 ---
    It will be fascinating to watch China morph into something freer and more open as time goes on. The powers-that-be want us to all become like the Chinese, but the opposite will happen.
  20. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040


    Jan 14, 2002
    South Dakota, USA
    Every Amendment is very important. I know some on the extreme left want the 2nd repealed and the 4th severely limited so the Government can go ahead and search every house for contraband after repeal, but if those fall the rest will start to go right with them. No matter what freedoms you might hold dearest in your heart all need to be protected and upheld.
  21. Pbrutto macrumors 6502a


    Apr 21, 2015
    Eastern PA
  22. RogerWilco macrumors 6502a


    Jul 29, 2011
    I think we will see a steady erosion of liberty as the "free" world increasingly mimics the Chinese government's system of enterprise and controls.
  23. Mums Suspended


    Oct 4, 2011
    "They" want that. But they can no longer stop the free flow of information. We're entering a new age.
  24. RogerWilco macrumors 6502a


    Jul 29, 2011
    But Tim Cook says it's a matter of skills -- the Chinese are so much better at censorship and dissident round ups, we just can't hope to compete at their level. :cool:

    I wonder if Cook will dare to say a word in public about China's recent ban on same-sex marriages? My guess is he will stay mum (and 100% hypocritical).

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