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Report Reveals Apple Employees Internally Unhappy With Plans to Show More Ads to iPhone Users
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Oh, my dear Apple…
The only way I’d pay for an ad free tier (if this is where it goes) is by cutting out the two services I use, Apple Music (only use a couple times a year) and extra iCloud space.
I need neither. I use them because they’re convenient. So they’d lose money off me vs adding to their revenue if they add an ‘ad free tier’. Unless it exceeds the $13 I occasionally spend now a month.
I upgrade every year because right now I can and I like new toys. But I don’t have a problem talking with my wallet and it seems it’s coming to that.
The only way I’d pay for an ad free tier (if this is where it goes) is by cutting out the two services I use, Apple Music (only use a couple times a year) and extra iCloud space.
I need neither. I use them because they’re convenient. So they’d lose money off me vs adding to their revenue if they add an ‘ad free tier’. Unless it exceeds the $13 I occasionally spend now a month.
I upgrade every year because right now I can and I like new toys. But I don’t have a problem talking with my wallet and it seems it’s coming to that.
Do not forget downgrade performance and transfer that performance on new products marketing them as xxx% increase over old product.
It's time for Tim Cook to go. Advertising is a virus - it starts with a small decision to "just show an ad unit in search" and eventually balloons to showing ads in every built-in app and service. Tim Cook is too weak to resist the dollar signs, as he is a numbers guy and not a product visionary. Apple really needs to return to a product focused CEO before they run out of track.
Yes, Jobs brought out iAd - but that was a different focus - it was aimed at supporting both developers, users and Apple, by having privacy focused yet still targeted in-app advertising. Now Apple has turned to grifting it's biggest supporters - third party developers, by extracting taxes for app store placement with search ads and now ads on your own app listing, with a privacy focus, but lacking any technical prowess in that the ad placement is completely random.
Yes, Jobs brought out iAd - but that was a different focus - it was aimed at supporting both developers, users and Apple, by having privacy focused yet still targeted in-app advertising. Now Apple has turned to grifting it's biggest supporters - third party developers, by extracting taxes for app store placement with search ads and now ads on your own app listing, with a privacy focus, but lacking any technical prowess in that the ad placement is completely random.
Neither of those will stop ios from ads. IOS could do it in a different way. Such as when any app is launched - which is something apple could definitely implement with alternative app stores and sideloading. Or on a swipe up if one has sideloading enabled.
There we go… Apple Music with ad tier coming soon (I betcha).Some of the other streaming services are now offering an ad tier, because of the economy we have to choose those options.
People (some people: I can't personally identify them, but clearly some on MR have voiced something similar to the following) have been saying this about Apple since 2011 since Mr. Cook took over. Against all odds Apple has thrived and has made decision after decision that have gone against some MR posters grain and Apple still did well. While I'm not in favor of more ads, I'm betting this will turn into one of those decisions that doesn't totally piss off users and Apple meets it's target goals.
Tim Cook must have had prior meetings with Mark Zuckerberg prior to Tim introducing ATT which cut out Facebooks ad revenue because it would appear Tim is taking a leaf out of Zuckerberg's playbook on how to increase company profits with ad revenue and we all know what accompanies ad's, yep, tracking because ad companies want to know where you have come from, where you are going to, what you clicked on, what you looked at the longest. All the typical things ad companies have in their contracts. So Apple might not be tracking you but the ad companies they allow on the apps will most certainly will be.
I agree. Apple is (used to be?) a user experience company whose products customers were willing to pay a premium for in order to get the best possible experience with no obstacles between machine and inspiration. I don't see how ads fit into that image or culture – and it seems many employees don't either.
Sideloading means UBlock Origin can come to iOS, as well as all the other adblockers Android users have had for years
I meant no harm
I most truly did not
but I had to grow bigger
so bigger I got
It’s Apple execs doing what they were trained to do in business school. If you aren’t growing, you’re losing. Just a terrible way to look at the world. I don’t know that it’s a fundamental change from Apple under Jobs (he certainly wanted to expand) though the tactics certainly seem different.
I most truly did not
but I had to grow bigger
so bigger I got
It’s Apple execs doing what they were trained to do in business school. If you aren’t growing, you’re losing. Just a terrible way to look at the world. I don’t know that it’s a fundamental change from Apple under Jobs (he certainly wanted to expand) though the tactics certainly seem different.
Who TF came up with the idea for ads in Spotlight? Fire that person immediately. I swear if Apple starts putting ads in my phone anywhere but the App Store main page I'm switching to Android. If I’m going to be forced to use a phone from an advertising company I'm at least going to use the one that lets me run software without restrictions and has a good keyboard.
The point is that if alternative app stores and sideloading are needed to combat ads, apple could find a way to code around it to force the display.
I've been getting more ads on YouTube/Twitch/Twitter/etc than ever before, and much like cable tv all it's accomplished is making me use all of those much less than before. I know I accidentally caught a coke-a-cola ad for 2 seconds out of the corner of my eye but that's just not going to get me to subconsciously buy your product...I haven't had soda in like 20 years. Just make a good product and I'll buy it if/when I need it, ad spam only makes me hate you preemptively.
Of course, whereas before they could take pride in working for a company that doesn't sellout (as much) and emphasizes privacy, now they work for a company that displays gambling ads to children right out of the gate and only suspended that when there was backlash, and a company that tracks every tap from user even when they have the personalize ads setting turned off. Now they are ashamed of Apple.
There not even ads anymore, they're social/political messages.
Someone needs to take this company private. As long as the only goal is to please Wall Street this is only going to get worse and worse and worse.
Hey Tim, how is that customer sat number going now? Can I vote anywhere? I wanna vote "like ****".
That's your problem right there. This is the root of almost all current Apple problems.