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Report Suggests Haswell MacBook Pros May Arrive in October
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But what is the purpose of getting a retina display on a computer anyway? I'm still trying to justify this in my mind, and I just can't seem to find a good reason. I guess if you're working on video/photography (professionally) that's one thing, but like having a touch screen on a computer, is it REALLY necessary? I mean the standard display is pretty damn clear to me...
Just playing devil's advocate I guess, and I want someone to help me justify intelligently why I should or should not buy one with retina display...
The problem here is they're at the will of Intel. The chips weren't ready to release before the "Back to School" promotion started, and there's no way Apple updates them in the middle of a promotion. So I anticipate these to get revised soon after B2S ends, which I think is Labor Day Weekend.
Aw dang it. I need one for school but now I'm not sure if I should wait or just take advantage of Best Buy's offer.
Same here I'm ready to buy a MBP for college, but I'm also tempted to wait until they're updated to Haswell. Then again, the only reason I would be waiting is for longer battery life..
Does anyone know if Haswell is only coming to the rMBP's or all MacBook pros?
Kuo is the root of most heresay rMBP rumors and should be banished from Macrumor articles.
But what is the purpose of getting a retina display on a computer anyway? I'm still trying to justify this in my mind, and I just can't seem to find a good reason. I guess if you're working on video/photography (professionally) that's one thing, but like having a touch screen on a computer, is it REALLY necessary? I mean the standard display is pretty damn clear to me...
Just playing devil's advocate I guess, and I want someone to help me justify intelligently why I should or should not buy one with retina display...
Have you seen them in person? If not, then definitely go do so, they're amazing. I'm justifying the difference of $400 from the Air as I don't like to buy computers often, this rMBP will be replacing a late 2007 iMac so I expect the rMBP to last me hopefully about 6 years. Current trends suggest in the near future ALL manufactures will be going high ppi for ALL screens(eventually as tech gets cheaper). No brainer for me, spend the $400 now or in 3-4 years start wondering how soon can I upgrade to a retina screen.
Apple is incredibly committed to the education world, but Apple can't force intel to get the appropriate chips out before they're ready.
Intel is pushing Ultrabooks, which use the ULV chips. So naturally we saw the ULV chips debut before the higher end mobile chips. With the Haswell ULV lineup, Apple was able to update the MacBook Airs prior to B2S.
And lets be honest, the MacBook Air is the new bread and butter of the notebook lineup, much like college lecture halls were inundated with White MacBooks. So it was more crucial to Apple to make the the Air was fresh.
It was just oh so convenient that Intel chose to kick off with the ULV chips needed for new MBAs
I guess it's not by strategic choice, but because of availability of components.
They're probably waiting for Intel's Falcon Ridge for Thunderbolt 2 to release some new Macs, that way they can support a Retina TBD and 4K displays eventually.
The iPhone 5 is on normal schedule. The iPad 5 would benefit from the same SoC architecture as the iPhone 5 (A7/A7X), so why not release it at the same time to keep the performance edge in this very competitive market.
It's also normal for it to update it before schedule since last update was seen by a lot as a minor update. The most accepted theory is that making the iPad 4 actually benefited them more than making the 3, because they've never managed to do a die shrink of the 45nm A5X, and it was actually cheaper to manufacture A6X's at 32nm. They also could eliminate the 30 pin connector in order to make the Lightning one more relevant.
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I think we can all agree that Apple having to release these MacBook Pros in the fall is far from ideal.
But, at the end of the day, Intel didnt release the appropriate chips in time for the B2S season. So This is a rare case in which Apple was at the will of one of its (admittedly huge) suppliers.
But, at the end of the day, Intel didnt release the appropriate chips in time for the B2S season. So This is a rare case in which Apple was at the will of one of its (admittedly huge) suppliers.
If you go to bestbuy.com click clearance items, then choose your local store, you'll find some stores selling the 2.3ghz 15" retina 8gb ram 256 ssd for something like $1260 now.
Sharp text! Less eye strain! These things aren't obvious? Have you never compared retina screen text to a non-Retina screen text. If you don't notice a massive difference. If the retina is not more comfortable to your eyes, run, don't walk to your eye doctor.
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It's not all that rare and Apple has release late year laptops many times in the recent history. 2006, 2008-2011 all had a late year release model of either a MB, MBA, or MBP.
Precisely. I will await to hear this issue is resolved before I buy another 10. RevA left a lot to be desired.
Glad I pulled the trigger on a refurbished 15" MacBook Pro with retina screen. Although it would have been nice to replace my early 2008 White MacBook with a Haswell model, I needed a new computer for school in the fall and I couldn't wait till October. It's too bad Apple won't release the new MacBook Pros so college students can take advantage of the better battery life, but it is what it is, I guess.
All Haswell chips have been launched as of early July. They're not waiting on intel. More likely the screens as the analyst predicted a few months back.
Thunderbolt 2 is likely reason for delay
My view is that Apple wants the new MacBook Pros to include the new Thunderbolt 2. The mention of 4K display support suggests that as well. Those that can be patient will be rewarded. My son needs a laptop for college, we are lending him our family laptop till these come out. He wants one now, but he will be happier once the new ones do come out.
My view is that Apple wants the new MacBook Pros to include the new Thunderbolt 2. The mention of 4K display support suggests that as well. Those that can be patient will be rewarded. My son needs a laptop for college, we are lending him our family laptop till these come out. He wants one now, but he will be happier once the new ones do come out.
Just playing devil's advocate I guess, and I want someone to help me justify intelligently why I should or should not buy one with retina display...
Maybe it's just up to the individual, but for me, once I started using a rMBP, I could never go back to the old screens (when I had to for a week or two at work, it was painful first world problem, I know). I'm sure it's even worse coming from one of the standard MBP models, rather than 17" high-res antiglare model I was used to before. Mine wasn't really that bad on pixel density, relatively speaking, and yes, really, I COULD use it if I had to, but unlike some of the things Apple brags about in their keynotes, the Retina screens totally live up to the hype (at least to me) it's not just some marketing gimmick, but something you notice and feel every time you use it, and it does make every computing task more pleasant, easier on the eyes, etc. Of course, part of that is simply that the Retina models are the first MacBooks with IPS screens (badly needed before!), and they have less glare, better color, etc (my 17" has a kind of bluish tint). But overall, in my opinion, as someone coming at it from more of a professional and less consumer angle, the Retina MacBook Pro is one of the most amazing, innovative, and useful products Apple has made in years (and we haven't even talked about the thinness, weight, speed, or the 2 Thunderbolt ports, USB 3 (finally), HDMI (!!), etc.).
Also, for the record, I've never had any issues with image retention on any of the handful of rMBPs I've handled at work (thankful to have dodged that bullet), but I have seen it on the display models at one of our local authorized Apple resellers, and it was BAD!!!
OK, but what does this have to do with my post or did you mistakenly hit "quote" instead of "replay"? Genuinely confused.
I hope Apple uses a vastly superior GPU. I love my rMBP... but let's face it... the GPU it came with isn't powerful enough to drive that high res screen. Last night I was doing some minor aperture editing / organizing of files, and I would get a beach ball all the time... with 16GB of RAM, a huge SSD, the top of the line i7, etc, you'd think I wouldn't be seeing that, but the GPU really is the bottleneck...
Yes. The benchmarks for the new MBPs that have appeared show the machines running Mavericks. That means that can't be released until Mavericks is ready.
Will we see discreet GPUs in the new models? Or are the rumours about Apple using intel GPUs exclusively in the rMBPs true?
Anyone know if AMD or nVidia will be releasing any new mobile GPUs in October?
Anyone know if AMD or nVidia will be releasing any new mobile GPUs in October?
I would be stunned if Apple did not have discrete graphics in the 15" rMBP. Benchmarks what they are for the new Intel graphics, it's still integrated. No video pro can rely on that or will pay the rMBP premium. Apple might as well just kill off the 15" if they are going to strip out the discrete graphics.
