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Probably suggests we'll see them announced alongside the new iPhone/s. I'm glad I bought my rMBP refurb a few months ago, definitely couldn't have waited this long.
 
I'll be interested to see if they do end up bringing back the 17" Macbook Pro with Retina, I would buy that in a heartbeat.
No they won't. They would've kept the classic 17" MacBook Pro if they cared for that form factor at all.
I've been struggling to figure out what to do ever since they discontinued the 17" MacBook Pro. Mobile is great, but I need a portable workstation.
You buy an 15" MacBook Pro with Retina and set the resolution to scaled 1920×1200 pixels look-a-like mode.
 
as most of the apple employees are really excited about this fall and are saying that this would be pretty busy for apple i think there is a great chance that we might see the next macbook pro in Oct.
 
but it's less expensive to sell your machine and buy an new one with the upgrades you want.

Sorry, but it is much less expensive to install a larger drive or more memory, sell your old drive and memory.

Lets do the math.

Option#1: (Your suggested option) Buy a $2500+TAX computer and then sell it 12-15 months later for $1500-$1700. Then buy a new computer for $2500+ TAX. Forget the tax, you lost $800-$1000.

Option#2: (A reasonable option that Apple is eliminating) Buy a $2500 + TAX computer and then keep it for 3-4 years. Upgrade the RAM for $75-$125 in a year or two to keep it up to par with newer computers.

MOST people would choose Option#2. If you have the money for Option#1 good for you...

Basically, Apple's move back to proprietary hardware )and in some cases software) will erase most of the gains they have made in the Desktop and Laptop computer market.

Also, there are many types of investments and a 2K-3K computer is absolutely one of them.
 
What are they waiting for? Assuming it's released in Oct that's 5 months after the MBA with Haswell. By the time I get one people will already be talking about Intel's next processor. Not happy about this. I need a new machine and this wait is a real pain.

I concur, by that time a new processor will be on the horizon. Should have been released along with the MBA.
 
But what is the purpose of getting a retina display on a computer anyway? I'm still trying to justify this in my mind, and I just can't seem to find a good reason. I guess if you're working on video/photography (professionally) that's one thing, but like having a touch screen on a computer, is it REALLY necessary? I mean the standard display is pretty damn clear to me...

Just playing devil's advocate I guess, and I want someone to help me justify intelligently why I should or should not buy one with retina display...:confused:

No need to play devils advocate. Go into Best Buy where they have a MBP and MBPr side by side, and hopefully both have Pages installed. The Apple Store typically spreads them out on different tables. Open a sample document in pages with more text than graphics. Notice on the retina display how smooth the letters are which impacts readability while on the standard display can see the actual dots that make up the letters. While I am a professional photographer, I don't really see the graphics that different, perhaps sharper on the retina, but not much. I do agree touchscreen is absolutely unnecessary and hope Apple never goes to it. No matter how sharp the screen is, using Photoshop and staring through fingerprint smudges is absurd.
 
Sorry, but it is much less expensive to install a larger drive or more memory, sell your old drive and memory.

Lets do the math.

Option#1: (Your suggested option) Buy a $2500+TAX computer and then sell it 12-15 months later for $1500-$1700. Then buy a new computer for $2500+ TAX. Forget the tax, you lost $800-$1000.

Option#2: (A reasonable option that Apple is eliminating) Buy a $2500 + TAX computer and then keep it for 3-4 years. Upgrade the RAM for $75-$125 in a year or two to keep it up to par with newer computers.

MOST people would choose Option#2. If you have the money for Option#1 good for you...

Basically, Apple's move back to proprietary hardware )and in some cases software) will erase most of the gains they have made in the Desktop and Laptop computer market.

Also, there are many types of investments and a 2K-3K computer is absolutely one of them.

Your resell prices are way too low. I sell my MBP every year and always get back around 80% of original purchase price. I then go buy a whole new computer -- updated CPU, GPU, usually more RAM, more storage, fresh battery, renewed warranty.

And again the dictionary definition of "investment" is firm. You can pretend to use it meaning "spend a lot of money," to justify your purchase but that isn't the proper use of the word.
 
rMBP 13" is gorgeous machine. I may get one with Haswell, finally. HD4000 is a bit of a slug for such nice high resolution LCD. BTW, rMBP price is not too far from what it really worse. It is the absolute perfection from craftsmanship prospective. No rush, I could wait...

On other side, I sat in Tesla S sedan. If I would not look at the sticker, I would never believe they wanted $107,900. Even $25,000 is too much for this freaking golf cart with oversized Touch Pad. They have its internal frame and power plant on display. Just by looking on power plant and how it is machined and finished and ugly welding seams. Talking about being overpriced, ha-ha.
 
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Open up the macbook pro and blow out the dust using compressed air to prevent overheating :)

need a MBP very soon..

old one has dead battery,only works on AC power, disk drive kaput, "s" key will not work... screen dimming.. have to use chill pad or it over heats and locks up.

I guess I got my money worth from a 2007 MBP. :eek: :cool:
 
...4 times that of standard HD displays. Currently, no Apple products feature the resolution.

KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a good track record when it comes to Apple rumors, originally predicted new MacBook Pros with Haswell processors at WWDC back in June, alongside a slimmer MacBook Pro with Retina display, though he later updated his prediction to suggest a mid-September release date for refreshed MacBook Pros.

There is some evidence that suggests Apple vendors ...

There is all evidence that suggests Ming-Chi Kuo does not have a clue regarding the release schedule. How can you call it a good track record when the predictions for the past 6 months have been 90% wrong. Please!
 
On other side, I sat in Tesla S sedan. If I would not look at the sticker, I would never believe they wanted $107,900. Even $25,000 is too much for this freaking golf cart with oversized Touch Pad. They have its internal frame and power plant on display. Just by looking on power plant and how it is machined and finished and ugly welding seams. Talking about being overpriced, ha-ha.

The mere mention of the Tesla makes me want to puke. Thanks to their skill at begging, uh... I mean negotiating, they conned the administration into a multi million dollar funding package consisting of our money. It was cloaked as a warm and fuzzy "green project" since they knew the man would cave at that thought. They were right. The car isn't.
 
"May arrive"?

Trite and cliched, the way to make possible customers salivate as if we're dogs.

Having opined on the state of how companies manipulate and treat potential customers, if all the kinks from the 2011 (overheats and hard resets via defective video cards (that reoccur later and after the system board is replaced) - see forum discussions on Apple's website) and 2012 (sluggish) models, I'd be inclined to buy... pity Apple's engineers don't bother to test this stuff BEFORE product releases, or ethically fix the problems post-release, since these are not $400 throwaway Windows PC laptops...

Two examples:

https://discussions.apple.com/message/22677209?ac_cid=tw123456#22677209
(150+ pages, possibly removed from Apple's site)

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2768351?start=1905&tstart=0
(120+ pages, still in existence)

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rMBP 13" is gorgeous machine. I may get one with Haswell, finally. HD4000 is a bit of a slug for such nice high resolution LCD. BTW, rMBP price is not too far from what it really worse. It is the absolute perfection from craftsmanship prospective. No rush, I could wait...

I don't have a degree in engineering, but it doesn't take much to do a little testing to have figured out early on about a limited-powered GPU trying to run a massively high resolution under load... but it's been said we don't have enough qualified people in the US to do these sorts of jobs...
 
The mere mention of the Tesla makes me want to puke. Thanks to their skill at begging, uh... I mean negotiating, they conned the administration into a multi million dollar funding package consisting of our money. It was cloaked as a warm and fuzzy "green project" since they knew the man would cave at that thought. They were right. The car isn't.

Is than why they're a company that is making money and paid off their loan ahead of schedule? Because the car isn't right?
 
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